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.... And Black People Who Think Like/ For White People Say in Regards to Issues About Racism".

I'm gonna write a book with that title one day. Lol

Feel free to add on with any other common arguments and your suggested replies. In all my years of debates with people about the subject, I came upon many obstacles by the protectors(whether wittingly or not) of the system of racism with the goal of white supremacy. I began to notice that the arguments were pretty much programmed and a lot of our responses were also programmed and ineffective. At first, I used to have discussions with white people and Black people about racism. In 2004, I stopped having unnecessary communications altogether with white people(psychopaths) based upon my experiences of speaking with them about racism. The experiences had a rangeful impact on me as there were times when I found certain instances to be quite comical and others to be very stressful. I learned what I needed to and moved on from them.

In the past year, I've been seriously limiting the amount of communication I have with Black people about racism outside of a well-structured setting. My level of patience for dialogue with those expressing psychopathic characteristics in their discourse is fastly approaching the zero tolerance level I have for psychopaths altogether.

However, if you, either as a newbie or a vet, ever find yourself in the unenviable position of speaking with such a person or if you ever find yourself in the opportunistic position of speaking with an Afrikan up and coming to their Afrikan senses who may want/ need understanding/ clarity on some issues regarding racism, may this thread serve as good guidance.

Ok, so the following reply is to the notorious "we give white people way too much credit" argument. It's a tussle between what they are responsible for and for what we are to be held accountable. One of the strongest features of this argument is that there is no critical analysis and virtually no acknowledgment whatsoever of exactly what the one or the other has the power to accomplish in relation to the context and this lazy approach is directly due to a mechanism affected by the very system we seek to eliminate.

Caution: This exercise is strictly for conversations with Afrikan people. "Pain" in no way endorses, encourages, promotes, advocates any communications with white people outside of the oft times necessities characterized by our given situation i.e. Questions/ statements regarding plane ticket reservations/ luggage/ "get the hell outta my C2 window seat, Krakka"/ "why are you stopping me officer"/ "I plead not guilty" etc. This is also for demonstrative purposes so as to possibly influence any Afrikan present to begin to think critically about the situation we are in and how to resolve it once and for all.









The Reply:

According to Neely Fuller Jr., there are 4 stages to the system of racism with the goal of white supremacy:

Establishment
Expansion
Maintenance
Refinement


The establishment of this color-based system/ practice of mmusu(extraordinary moral evil/ pollution/ great misfortune/ calamity/ disease/ abomination) is over 3, 000 years old.

Its diffusion/ expansion is global.

It is always being managed and maintained, initially by just the bɔnedansifoɔ(architects/ builders of the wicked system in question) who are the oburofo/akyiwadefoɔ("whites" and their offspring), but also now by their “melanated minions” - culturally ill Afurakanu/ Afuraitkaitnut(Afrikan people) as well.

The mmususohwεfoɔ(overseers/ testers/ examiners of the structural integrity of the color-based system of mmusu), such as Tim Wise, are the managers and maintenance agents for the akyiwadeεfoɔ’s("white people") color-based system/ practice of mmusu and they are critical to the refinement or nkɔso(advancement) stage of the aforementioned system. The nkɔso stage is where they refine this color-based system/ practice of mmusu so that the victims thereof credit just about anyone and anything but the force (and entities behind the force) that is at the root of their condition.

From the book "The Psychopathic Racial Personality" under the chapter entitled "Black Suicide: Lynching By Any Other Name Is Still Lynching", we have the following from professor of psychology, the late Dr. Bobby E. Wright:

"One of the most difficult tasks of a Black scholar is to analyze the influence of racism on Black behavior and attitudes, and, at the same time, escape the almost irresistible protective barrier of Western scholarship, "the analysis of the victim." This "analysis of the victim" methodology (which involves seeing the victim as the cause of his own problems) has been a major "scientific" development of White scientists because it effectively leads away from the cause of Blacks’ condition-White pathology. As a result some take the position that the Black masses should not be informed of our truly weak condition for fear of immobilization ( a situation which already exists). Others deny that Whites have any power over Blacks at all. The confusion is caused by the powerful, yet subtle, White concept of "free will." This concept insists that because people always have choices, they can be held responsible for their behavior." -Dr. Bobby E. Wright

That last point about "free will" is contrasted of course by professor of psychology, Dr. Watson speaking on his "special environment" where he states:

"Give me a dozen healthy infants, well-formed, and my own specified world to bring them up in and I’ll guarantee to take any one at random and train him to become any type of specialist I might select – doctor, lawyer, artist, merchant-chief and, yes, even beggar-man and thief, regardless of his talents, penchants, tendencies, abilities, vocations, and race of his ancestors." -Watson, Professor of Psychology Behaviourism (1930), p. 82

You cannot say that because of "free will" everyone is responsible for their behavior no matter the circumstances and at the same time, as we witness with Dr. Watson, you have a culture where you actively engage in the science of behavior modification.

Hmm, or can you?

Can there possibly be a way to reconcile the concept of "free will" and the reality of social engineering? Dr. Bobby E. Wright goes on to state in "The Psychopathic Racial Personality" that:

"Most behavioral scientists attest to the fact that situations can be contrived in a manner that will influence people to engage in self-destructive behavior. Further, once it is determined that such a condition caused the behavior, the focus of attention shifts from the victim to the perpetrator-except where Blacks are involved..... What is popularly called "behavior modification" is a highly complex "science" which is underrated and generally ignored by Black behavioral scientists. Yet, any Black with a cursory knowledge of B.F. Skinner’s "experimental analysis of behavior" should recognize its potential danger to our community, where every situation is under the control of the White race. It also clearly defines the Black community as still enslaved. The prophesy of B.F. Skinner (1971) in Beyond Freedom and Dignity is now a reality. Skinner articulated that it is possible to "delude" people into believing that they have the essence of life-freedom and dignity-and still control them." -Dr. Bobby E. Wright

That is how we "reconcile" the concept of "free will" within the system of racism with the goal of white supremacy. The mechanism by which we reconcile "free will" with the color-based system of mmusu is a product of the latter. It’s a built in security mechanism of the system.

The good doctor goes on from there to discuss further the concept of social engineering - the manipulation of choices or the quality thereof and specifically he speaks to the rise in the Black suicide rate in America, a phenomena that was previously virtually unknown to us as he points out.

Black psychologist Dr. Joy Leary, based on her studies, has suggested that even in the action of suicide and the preceding depression, African people are different and express both of the aforementioned instances differently as well. Her suggestion is that the homicidal way in which many Black men, in particular, live is actually our developed modality of expressing suicidal tendencies. The mechanism which promotes this outcome lies in institutional racism.

Dr. Wright concluded that since suicide is defined as the willful and deliberate act of taking one’s own life, there is no such phenomena as "Black suicide." This is how he came to coin the term "Mentacide" because the culture/ system we live in, which is controlled by White people, actively promotes and encourages Black people to destroy themselves by way of their institutions in all 9 areas of people interactivity. Mentacide is defined as the "deliberate and systematic destruction of a group’s minds with the ultimate objective being the extirpation of the group."

Social engineering is real and it has been done a thousand times over with absolutely excellent or atrocious (depending on your point of view) results. Social engineering is about the manipulation of choices. The concept known to some as "manufacturing consent" is far older than I am and it may be at it's most advanced stage ever in the history of its use.

For some, as was pointed out before, there is no rhyme or reason for the thinking and behavior patterns of the vast body of Black people. Anything propsed as such is merely an excuse. When you think about it like that, and by "like that" I mean with absolutely no regard for what the victimizer is doing, then you ALWAYS have a choice no matter the situation you find yourself in as an individual or as a people. There is always a choice!! But at the very least, there must be an admission/ acknowledgment of the reality of the poor quality of choices we have in certain situations. At that point, it should be reiterated that the reason for the poor quality of choices is the fact of the engineering/ manipulation of the circumstances usually by the beneficiary of said circumstances. One cannot, with good sense, look at the result of centuries of untold, unspeakable and ONGOING atrocities and say the context of the centuries of atrocities is irrelevant when it comes to trying to solve something that is a direct outgrowth of that context. If we were to be honest, as a direct result of this psychopathic system, Afrikan people are currently suffering from various psychological illnesses such as sociopathy, antisocial personality disorder, stockholm syndrome, hysteric personality disorder and so on. However, our foreign manufactured ability to "reconcile" the concept of "free will" with the social engineering system of racism with the goal of white supremacy is the reason why we can have no such explanations.

Many of us not only "adapted" to inhumane treatment from foreigners but we also adopted it and passed it down to later generations. Therefore, many of us really don’t view ourselves as human beings susceptible to things that would normally affect human beings. It's almost an unspoken expectation that Afrikan people are supposed to be able to take all manner of abuse seemingly forever and it never actually affects us in any significant way whatsoever. If we live in an environment that encourages our destruction for hundreds of years and we ever actually begin to behave in a self-destructive manner then it must be understood that it either has absolutely nothing or very little to do with the environment and everything to do with us just being an innately worthless and stupid people. That may sound strong but when you don’t have any rationale besides the usual posited unwillingness (which is necessarily mysterious and unexplainable) of African people to rise to a certain level; moreover when you don’t even want to investigate matters thoroughly and "outside the psychopath’s approved course of study" , it suggests by default that the problem is inborn.

To be continued.....

((((Obadele, Feel free to correct me on the Twi terms I may have mangled in my creative/ innovative juices))))
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Bear witness to his choice, children, and give thanks to your Gods. And then pray for their mercy.

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