Can someone break this name down to me? - Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Language and Liberation Institutes and Community Networks
Home UserCP Memberlist Register Calendar FAQ
 
Home
 

Go Back   Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Language and Liberation Institutes and Community Networks > Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Language Institute > Akan (Twi) Language Resources

Notices

Akan (Twi) Language Resources Akan (Twi) Kasa Nimdeε-Korabeaeε

http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 08-16-2008, 04:41 PM
imhotep1906 is going to edit his or her present status eventually.
Abibikasa Suani
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 29
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 0
imhotep1906 is on a distinguished road
Activity Longevity
0/20 2/20
Today Posts
ssssssss6
Default Can someone break this name down to me?

Mbote

Can someone break down this name to me in its parts? The Akan name of a king who lived in 1037-1075 Ad named TENKAMENIN. Can someone break this down for me linguistically? I really appreciate it. Thanks.

Asar Imhotep
Home
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 08-16-2008, 06:44 PM
Ɔkyeame Kwame's Avatar
Ɔkyeame Kwame is working collectively with other Afrikans to expand the scope of Abibitumi Kasa
Abibikasa Wura
 

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Mframa Kurom
Age: 29
Posts: 1,334
Thanks: 201
Thanked 119 Times in 101 Posts
Blog Entries: 4
Rep Power: 13
Ɔkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to beholdƆkyeame Kwame is a splendid one to behold
Activity Longevity
14/20 20/20
Today Posts
sssss1334
Send a message via AIM to Ɔkyeame Kwame Send a message via MSN to Ɔkyeame Kwame Send a message via Yahoo to Ɔkyeame Kwame View Member's Myspace Profile View Member's FaceBook Profile
Default Re: Can someone break this name down to me?

Quote:
Originally Posted by imhotep1906 View Post
Mbote

Can someone break down this name to me in its parts? The Akan name of a king who lived in 1037-1075 Ad named TENKAMENIN. Can someone break this down for me linguistically? I really appreciate it. Thanks.

Asar Imhotep
Home
Kiambote kiaku? Bwe siemi e?

This was not an Akan king, he was Soninke, which is a subdivision of the Mande people. He was a ruler of Ancient Ghana, not contemporary Ghana, where the Akan as a distinct ethnic group is located now. I'm not sure if we have any Soninke speakers here, but they will be able to help you on this where Akan speakers will not. Also be aware that an alternate spelling of the name is Tunka Manin. Stay BlackNificent!

Bwe unavova KiKongo?

Obadele
__________________
Uhuru sasa! Fahodie seesei! Ominira nisisiyi! Moom sa bopp leegi!
Freedom now!
Please be sure to check out the exciting things going on here this summer at Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Language and Liberation community networks! Just click on any image in the slideshow below for more info and links! And don't forget to stay BlackNificent!



Obadele Kambon
Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Language Institute
Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Liberation Institute
Abibitumi Kasa Online Market
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 08-16-2008, 10:30 PM
imhotep1906 is going to edit his or her present status eventually.
Abibikasa Suani
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Age: 29
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 0
imhotep1906 is on a distinguished road
Activity Longevity
0/20 2/20
Today Posts
ssssssss6
Default Re: Can someone break this name down to me?

Hutuapo (peace)

I am well. I appreciate the follow-up. I have managed to get some information on TENKA in the name TENKA-MENIN. I apologize for not being clear and stating he was an Akan. I am aware that ancient Wagadu (Ghana) is not the modern Ghana.

The variant TUNKA-MANIN is interesting on so many levels. TUNKA can be rendered TUNKA or TIMKA or DINGA and it means CHIEF in Soninke. The word GHANA is actually a Soninke term that means CHIEF/KING/LEADER. Al-Bakri associated the title of the king with the whole nation and that's how Wagadu became GHANA. Ghana coming from the Malinke words GANA or KANA meaning CHIEF.

What is not clear is the word MANIN. I have been finding the word AMEN in various different forms all across west Africa and I wonder if this is another variant. Soninke language belongs to the greater Niger-Kongo languages and it would share some base words and concepts with its sister languages.

In the Akan and in the i-Kami (KM.T) language we find AMEN written as MIN or MN or MEN at times. The word EN in Twi according to O. Kwame Osei means "of" and the term MANIN could mean AMEN OF (Of Amen). I am not sure if EN or IN means "of" in Soninke as it does in its cousin the Akan languages.

If this is true, then his full name could be rendered Chief or Priest of Amen as we know the Kings, Chiefs are priests of any African nation. But I may be way off as the IN seems to be a postposition word.

Either way, I have a feeling that the words MANSA and MANIN are of the same root and meaning. But if this is the case then MANSA means KING and you would have in TUNKA MANIN to mean KING KING if the word MANIN also means KING or LEADER or RULER of some sort.

I find TUNKA interesting because in the KiKongo the word N'KWA MAVANGA refers to Mature Leadership (a ruler, leader, specialist). As we know NKWA means LIFE or VITALITY in the Bantu and Kwa languages. But this term N'KWA among the KiKongo is another word for NGANGA as we know is a Master, Specialist, Leader, or Powerful Person. The word NKWA consist of two dimunitive morphemes K(a) and WA. K(a) is usually always associated with FIRE in African languages and fire is a sign of VITALITY and LIFE. WA is a passive suffix which indicates that the subject is being acted upon by an agent. So K(a)WA is another name for a person, a living fire.

As we know the King is supposed to represent the vitality of the nation and the term TUNKA could represent that concept. NKA or NKWA would render the same meaning. Or you could simply say KA.

I need to find out what the TU prefix stands for in the Soninke language. Maybe it functions just like TU in Bantu. We know the written language in KiKongo is SONA but you often hear it as TUSONA. It may be similar.

So some more investigation is needed.

And no I don't speak KiKongo, but I am trying to learn.

Last edited by imhotep1906; 08-16-2008 at 10:47 PM..
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
break

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright Abibitumi Kasa 2006-2010


Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Liberation Institutes and Community Networks RSS Feeds - Contact Us   Abibitumi Kasa Afrikan Liberation Institutes and Community Networks         Archive  


Footer
Top
These are the 70 most-searched-for thread tags
Search Tag Cloud
(twi) 7 or 8 9th 2008 abibitumi abujamal africa afrikan akan ancient applications baby baruti begins bible black booklist camps class cnn concentration court cultural death egyptians family geronimo ghana ghanafest hebrew? inside introduce journey june kamau kambon kasa languages launch learn liberation links main messengers mothers mwalimu nations network nigerian okomfo online post race rashidi runoko sankɔfa science seneweb session slideshow standing summer summit t'shango trouble twi week wolof words yoruba
Inactive Reminders By Mished.co.uk