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      Quote Originally Posted by Ayobami O. View Post
      But I feel you. Frustrating watching others approximate 'doing you', falling far short of the standard you set at your zenith, but surpassing so many of those within our community today, with respect to their civility towards each other in relationship.


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      Sister Ayobami, this couldn't be said any better. I have to admit, I had some of the same feelings watching them constantly affirming what they believe as a family and seeing how this family arrangement promoted the love, prosperity, and well-being of children and how the children responded to that love.

      Even as it is being exemplified from their unique cultural lifestyle and religious perspective, it is obvious that the arrangement is far better than what is going on throughout our communities, which is a denatured degeneration of the family that we have adapted and acculturated to, as well as enforcing its failed state into the realm of Black social norms.

      The State (the system) under the guise of women rights and social services rather we stay right where we are collectively, rather than to make any extreme or dynamic sociocultural change in an attempt to repair and elevate the Black family's status and progression further into the 21st century. And this position of Western culture is reinforced and aided by many of our own misguided and most trusted activist, so-called visionaries, and academicians who have drank the token's Kool-Aid of hegemony, assimilation, and European paternalism.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Obadele Kambon View Post
      We don't know. We think he may have passed away. We were unsuccessful in attempts to contact him since the last time he was online here.
      Unfortunate, but I'm blessed to have read his posts.

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      He was a real credit to Abibitumi Kasa and the Afrikan race.

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      Got damn! I'm feelin this post. I have a lot of resentment from doing both being expected to do my 'man's work' and her 'woman's work' concurrently.

      Just a small venting. I still love my sisters!

      And I second your disclaimer.

      Quote Originally Posted by Obadele Kambon View Post
      One of the major ones is that, generally speaking, many are simply for hire to the highest bidder. My experience is that concerns of level of 'consciousness', similarity of life mission and especially 'love' as many in the diaspora may have come to conceive of it, many times don't even seem to be considerations for continental African women. The primary consideration, time and again, is simply who can provide financial security in a practical way more so than more abstract notions that relationships elsewhere may seem to be based upon. Thus, here where I live, you'll see some of the most horrific 'couples' that your brain could never produce in your wildest nightmares that will resemble a young African woman in her miniskirt and white woman costume complete with horse hair weave walking with what looks like a pale white pig that narrowly escaped from the local trailer park's pig pen.

      That said, again generally speaking, you'll find that, juxtaposed with women of the diaspora, many of whom look down on doing domestic 'women's work', many continental African women define their womanhood by it. So, unless she's been infected culturally in this particular area (which is actually a possibility), you'll get cooking, cleaning, washing, kwk, without hassle, laziness, back talk, strife or having to resort to hiring help/servants to do her work for her. Also, you won't have to be doing your 'man's work' and her 'woman's work' concurrently.

      While the continental African woman may not be able to pass even the most rudimentary 'consciousness test' of who was Imhotep, Queen Nzingha or Marcus Garvey, she'll do practical things that will build and sustain a household (as long as you do your part as breadwinner). At the end of the day, you'll provide your consciousness including, but not limited to, your knowledge of who the enemy is and she/they will provide practical knowledge of indigenous healing herbs, how to grow corn and turn it into banku, how to speak various indigenous languages and whatever else that she/they may not value themselves, but may have picked up by virtue of having happened to be born on the continent. A decent continental/diasporan relationship and/or marriage may be like the coming together of a Booker T Washington mindset (ie focus on practical things that are the basis of sovereignty from the continental African woman) and a Du Bois mindset (in the sense of greater focus on ideological/philosophical concerns from the diasporan man) as you'll find abstract issues such as level of consciousness to be SEVERELY lacking here. Oftentimes, what you'll get is what you'll provide. Just search for a decent foundation like hair already natural, Afrikan clothing, non-bleached skin, kwk and start from there. On the other side, with a woman from the diaspora, you may get all correct answers on the consciousness test, but little to nothing on the practical Afrikan knowledge and skills side. In fact, you may find yourself arguing with her or trying to drag her along to do virtually anything Afrikan outside of performing on the cerebral consciousness test.

      Disclaimer: these are all just some of my opinions based on some of my own personal experiences. If any issue is taken feel free to hop in your time machine to go back and change my experiences or into the future to set up some different ones.

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