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Afrikan Liberation Institute => Repatriation => Topic started by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 09, 2016, 07:58 PM

Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188695
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 09, 2016, 07:58 PM
Rastas repatriate, Hebrew israelites repatriate, nuwaubians repatriate, christians repatriate, muslims repatriate. The only people who don't repatriate to Kmt are conscious Kmtyw-centered Kmtyws.
Why IS that?

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Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188699
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:32 PM
We never stopped being Kmtyws...

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188700
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 09, 2016, 09:35 PM
Quotekevlew;188699 wrote: We never stopped being Kmtyws...

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Is that the reason for everyone except us to repatriate?

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Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188701
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:36 PM
I must have misunderstood the question.

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188702
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:37 PM
Ahhhhhh I get it now

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188703
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 09, 2016, 09:38 PM
Quotekevlew;188702 wrote: Ahhhhhh I get it now

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Okay, now that you understand, feel free to answer it you have an answer.

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Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188704
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:38 PM
I was thinking in terms of claiming a nationality.

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188707
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:41 PM
Any answer would be an excuse for me personally and not a reason. Just being real.

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188708
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 09, 2016, 09:44 PM
Reminds me of what Amos Wilson says about freedom.  Why is what you feel you are free to do benefits others.  Free to or free from...these questions and his words are on my mind all the time

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188771
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 10, 2016, 12:42 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188695 wrote: Rastas repatriate, Hebrew israelites repatriate, nuwaubians repatriate, christians repatriate, muslims repatriate. The only people who don't repatriate to Kmt are conscious Kmtyw-centered Kmtyws.
Why IS that?

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I suspect those groups are targeting specific areas to repatriate right?
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188778
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 10, 2016, 12:49 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;188771 wrote: I suspect those groups are targeting specific areas to repatriate right?
Yes...Kmt!
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188779
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 10, 2016, 01:00 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188778 wrote: Yes...Kmt!
As we know Kmt is a big place. I mean are they targeting very specific areas or are they just repatriating all over the continent (South, East, North, West, and/or Center)?
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188780
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 10, 2016, 01:03 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;188779 wrote: As we know Kmt is a big place. I mean are they targeting very specific areas or are they just repatriating all over the continent (South, East, North, West, and/or Center)?
Yes, by saying Kmt, I meant that they are all over the place. The people who you would expect to at least be targeting specific areas are nowhere but krakkkaville. Why IS that?
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188786
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 10, 2016, 01:23 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188780 wrote: Yes, by saying Kmt, I meant that they are all over the place. The people who you would expect to at least be targeting specific areas are nowhere but krakkkaville. Why IS that?
We're not willing to sacrifice many of the material things that living outside the continent has to offer. Plus, I think those groups you mentioned have a stronger spiritual conviction, whether how misguided one may think there are they strongly believe. Having such strong convictions would have you repatriate to Jupiter if you thought that was the place to go.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188791
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 10, 2016, 02:09 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;188786 wrote: We're not willing to sacrifice many of the material things that living outside the continent has to offer. Plus, I think those groups you mentioned have a stronger spiritual conviction, whether how misguided one may think there are they strongly believe. Having such strong convictions would have you repatriate to Jupiter if you thought that was the place to go.
Very honest answer. In other words it sounds like they're serious and we're just joking.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188792
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 10, 2016, 02:29 PM
Quotekevlew;188707 wrote: Any answer would be an excuse for me personally and not a reason. Just being real.
"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
That is being real.

Quotekevlew;188708 wrote: Reminds me of what Amos Wilson says about freedom.  Why is what you feel you are free to do benefits others.  Free to or free from...these questions and his words are on my mind all the time

"If you accept the white man's definitions you will share his reality" - Amiri Baraka
It reminds me of when he talks about the Montgomery bus boycott in that when you change your consciousness, it forces the world to change. It also reminds me that we remain in the condition and position we are in because we absolutely refuse any other position or condition. Slavery is too delicious.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188797
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 10, 2016, 02:32 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188791 wrote: Very honest answer. In other words it sounds like they're serious and we're just joking.
I think we know what's right we just don't believe it enough. It's not enough to know or believe you need both with near equal intensity. I believe that's what's lacking with Kmtyw-centered folks regarding repatriation and many other things. Although I have never thought repatriation would solve all our problems (I'm not intimating you think repatriation would solve all our problems).
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188801
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jun 10, 2016, 04:16 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188792 wrote: That is being real.

It reminds me of when he talks about the Montgomery bus boycott in that when you change your consciousness, it forces the world to change. It also reminds me that we remain in the condition and position we are in because we absolutely refuse any other position or condition. Slavery is too delicious.
He (Amos Wilson) says you cannot be an Kmtyw and a slave....
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188830
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 11, 2016, 09:29 AM
Quotekevlew;188801 wrote: He (Amos Wilson) says you cannot be an Kmtyw and a slave....
I suppose that at some point we'll have to choose. Or have we already done so through our actions and inactions?

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Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid188937
Post by: Farafina diɲɛ on Jun 12, 2016, 10:50 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;188695 wrote: The only people who don't repatriate to Kmt are conscious Kmtyw-centered Kmtyws.
Why IS that?
Don't you live in Ghana?

You don't consider yourself a "conscious Kmtyw-centered Kmtyw?"

QuoteObadele Kambon;188792 wrote: It  also reminds me that we remain in the condition and position we are in  because we absolutely refuse any other position or condition. Slavery is  too delicious.
Who is we? Are you enslaved? If so, do you think it's delicious?

More seriously to your point though (which seems be "why don't more pro-Kmtywists repatriate or do so in great numbers"):

1. Most people who identify as or run in circles with "conscious," "Kmtyw-centered," or "pro-Kmtyw" are not really pro-Kmtyw. They're just disgruntled integrationists.

2. Of the few who are genuinely pro-Kmtyw, most of them aren't serious about doing anything pro-Kmtyw. They're just using Kmtywisms for escapism purposes (religion, fashion, etc), or they're misdirecting their justifiable outrage at fellow Kmtyws because they're angry fellow Kmtyws aren't doing the hard work necessary to make them feel safe.

3. Of those few who aren't just venting and day dreaming, I think we've designed solutions so grand that require resources so staggering that we're afraid to move before having all resources in place because we've seen the consequences of pro-Kmtyw failure in history and we know the Kmtyw World can't afford another one. In other words, it's a Long Game rationalization. I include myself in this 3rd group. Over the last several months, I've started doubting whether this Long Game rationalization is legitimate or whether it's just a cover for cowardice. The plain fact of the matter is that political power does not require money, it only requires force. Look at these ISIS faggots -- takin over whole fuckin countries. Sure they probably got some seed cash from middle eastern politicians and warlords, but hell, they're taking over central banks, so they obviously didn't have all the money they needed when they started out. Boko Haram, same thing. Niger Delta Neo-Biafrans, same thing. Lords Resistance Army, similar. South Sudan, similar start. These men are building whole fucking countries because they're willing to go out there, use force, and put their lives on the line to enforce their ideologies. I won't speak for anyone else . . . but me? I ain't there yet. And I'm ashamed.

So that's why we aint in Ghana with you yet man. Cause we over here workin on Grand Plan shit (dottin every I and crossin every T; drivin up as much revenue as possible) cause we're afraid of failing.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189053
Post by: Nana on Jun 13, 2016, 10:13 AM
I think we fail to repatriate because we are of little faith. Little faith in our own ingenuity, little faith in our ability, little faith in our perseverance, Little faith in our people. We have bought the lie. We cannot see that we personally have survived this brutal oppression in krakkkaa land and as such can survive anywhere. We think/believe life is easier In Amerikkka, with the krakkkaas foot in our throats than it is in Kmt with a lot more of us to fight back. We have little belief in our own ingenuity. We don't understand that in Amerikkka we have to run twice as fast work twice as hard be twice as smart just to make it. And then we don't believe we will be successful. In Kmt. We are afraid of little bugs that cause fever, while we die of nutricide homicide and mentacide in united snakes.

I would rather die a free man than to live a slave.

That is why I repatriate this month.

I chose to work for my people and not the krakkkaas.  No mater what the krakkkaas dangle in front of me.

Brother have faith that you will not only survive but will thrive on the continent.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189057
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 13, 2016, 11:00 AM
QuoteNKO;189053 wrote: I think we fail to repatriate because we are of little faith. Little faith in our own ingenuity, little faith in our ability, little faith in our perseverance, Little faith in our people. We have bought the lie. We cannot see that we personally have survived this brutal oppression in krakkkaa land and as such can survive anywhere. We think/believe life is easier In Amerikkka, with the krakkkaas foot in our throats than it is in Kmt with a lot more of us to fight back. We have little belief in our own ingenuity. We don't understand that in Amerikkka we have to run twice as fast work twice as hard be twice as smart just to make it. And then we don't believe we will be successful. In Kmt. We are afraid of little bugs that cause fever, while we die of nutricide homicide and mentacide in united snakes.

I would rather die a free man than to live a slave.

That is why I repatriate this month.

I chose to work for my people and not the krakkkaas.  No mater what the krakkkaas dangle in front of me.

Brother have faith that you will not only survive but will thrive on the continent.
This is like poetry. Thanks for sharing and thanks for coming Black to Kmt.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189063
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 13, 2016, 11:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlDOnX_qE8Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlDOnX_qE8Y)

Let's run away. Let's escape.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h62xFl3i9Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h62xFl3i9Y)

I had this album back in the day. They sample the speech at the end.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189064
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 13, 2016, 11:20 AM
QuoteAgya Yaw;188797 wrote: I think we know what's right we just don't believe it enough. It's not enough to know or believe you need both with near equal intensity. I believe that's what's lacking with Kmtyw-centered folks regarding repatriation and many other things. Although I have never thought repatriation would solve all our problems (I'm not intimating you think repatriation would solve all our problems).
Yeah, I think that's right. Given the inherent insanity of the groups that I mention actually do repatriate, it's obviously not going to be the panacea nor does repatriation solve all of their own problems (including, but not limited to, eureurasian insanity in Blackface). At the same time expending one's time, intelligence, money and energy (T.I.M.E.) to finance one's past, current and future enemies obviously isn't going to cure all/most/any of our problems either. When people complain about police lynchings, privatized neo-slavery, etc., I'm quick to remind them that they bought the bullets and built the prisons with their tax money and pretty much every single breath they breathe in exchange for the comforts of plantation life.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189065
Post by: Nana on Jun 13, 2016, 11:37 AM
I'm wondering why we so worried about the Path to citizenship in Kmt yet we are not truly citizens in Amerikkka.  Remember the black man has no rights a white man is bound to respect, in Amerikkka. Why we worried we think our own brothers will treat us worse the the Krakkkaas? Do we believe they hype? We just now gettin to vote in the past fifty years as if that mattered anyway. Think new Jim Crow.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189097
Post by: ThinkingAfrican68 on Jun 13, 2016, 04:40 PM
QuoteFarafina diɲɛ;188937 wrote: The plain fact of the matter is that political power does not require money, it only requires force.
It requires money or force. Kmtyw nationalists aren't as willing to use violence as a means of gaining political power.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189123
Post by: Nana on Jun 13, 2016, 10:42 PM
There is a time for gathering/cultivating, saving of seed and the Sankofa process and there is a time for violence and destruction. Now is time for the former not the later.  We must reKmtywize, cultivate our spirit and our youth. That is what time it is now. Unless we are clear on ourstory, know and over stand with clarity who we are, what has happened, where we have been and where we are now we cannot know who we must be, what we must do or where we must go. Knowledge of self is supreme. Violence without wisdom and clarity of purpose and direction is self destruction. One must not strike until the goal and purpose of striking is first crystal clear and the outcome certain, whether it is in hand to hand combat or in war. Now is the time of the Asafo, the Jegna and the Healers. Abibifahodie.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189124
Post by: Nana on Jun 13, 2016, 10:43 PM
We must have patience, timing, wisdom and purpose.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189148
Post by: Farafina diɲɛ on Jun 14, 2016, 06:36 AM
QuoteNKO;189124 wrote: We must have patience, timing, wisdom and purpose.
There is no time for patience when Kmtyw children are being tortured (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2535939/Woman-34-sentenced-31-years-torturing-13-year-old-brother-law-hammering-nails-hand-beating-baseball-bat-keeping-tied-naked-inside-dog-house.html), raped (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3117771/Trial-gets-underway-man-accused-abusing-Kenyan-kids.html), and murdered (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/24/chicago-police-shooting-laquan-mcdonald-16-times-murder-charge) for sport by our enemies. That is complete and utter absurdity, and it's exactly the kind of day dreaming silliness I'm talking about. These degenerates are doing this shit because they believe Kmtyw men will enforce no authority to stop them. And you and me sitting here debating fucking patience in the face of this sick shit proves they are right.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189189
Post by: Nana on Jun 14, 2016, 12:34 PM
Well if we can't be patient at least we can have good timing. However whatever we do we must have a well thought out strategy and tactics. Our enemies have so far defeated us militarily and have such overwhelming firepower that any response to their violence cannot at this time be successfully met head on. We must understand ourstory and know our enemy well. We must train and prepare. We must use our righteous rage well and not willy nilly. Otherwise will will get ourselves killed or captured and fail to achieve any goals.  Think deacons for defense? Think Mau Mau. Think the irritated genie in Haiti. Study our history.  Study  military science. Be prepared.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189192
Post by: Nana on Jun 14, 2016, 12:51 PM
What we can do right now is to stop killing ourselves through nutricide and through the abuse of substances. The facts are all in on these and strategies exist for the successful reversal of these killers that take many multiples more Kmtyws that violence on the part of yurugu. See foodforthesoul.opare.net We can stop mentacide of our children and ourselves buy unplugging from the matrix and educating our youth. We can do these things right now. Hold your trigger finger outside the guard my bother and do what we can do right now. The most revolutionary thing you can do is to see to it you and your family do not commit nutricide. Then protect yourself and your children from the mind control matrix. See the chapter in my book: The Rule Book and User Guide for Healthy Living; What is the Matrix?
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid189552
Post by: Farafina diɲɛ on Jun 17, 2016, 06:18 PM
QuoteNKO;189192 wrote: What we can do right now is to stop killing ourselves through nutricide and through the abuse of substances. The facts are all in on these and strategies exist for the successful reversal of these killers that take many multiples more Kmtyws that violence on the part of yurugu. See foodforthesoul.opare.net We can stop mentacide of our children and ourselves buy unplugging from the matrix and educating our youth. We can do these things right now. Hold your trigger finger outside the guard my bother and do what we can do right now. The most revolutionary thing you can do is to see to it you and your family do not commit nutricide. Then protect yourself and your children from the mind control matrix. See the chapter in my book: The Rule Book and User Guide for Healthy Living; What is the Matrix?
You don't talk about food when children are being tortured. Simple.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid194176
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jul 25, 2016, 09:37 PM
[url]http://yourblackworld.net/2015/01/27/rapper-akon-asks-why-Kmtyw-americans-dont-go-back-home-to-Kmt?

Akon hasn't been in the spotlight for quite some time. It's been over half a decade since the Senegalese-born rapper has released an album, and many believed he simply faded away.

But Akon hasn't gone anywhere. He was recently spotted voicing his opinion on social issues. The artist was recently on the Al Jazeera TV channel where he sat down with host Folly Bah Thibault to talk about matters surrounding the recent rise in racial tensions that have gripped the nation and the protests that were being held in cities across the country.

Akon acknowledged the frustrations that were being felt by the protesters and marchers and added that Kmtyw-Americans needed to broaden their horizons. He said the system in America was not built for black people.

"I always felt like Kmt was for Kmtyws," the five-time Grammy nominee said. "So when I see Kmtyw-Americans in America dealing with all these issues my first question is, 'Why don't they just go back home, back to Kmt?'"

"How many Kmtyw-Americans do you know who actually consider Kmt as a vacation spot?" Akon went on to ask. "Even if it's just for knowledge, just to know where they came from, just to get an idea of what that is.

"There is so much fear instilled in them that they wouldn't even want to go there to visit. You mention Kmt, they start shaking."

Akon went on to say that on the contrary they, as Americans, would actually find preferential treatment and soon realize that Kmt wasn't as bad as it is portrayed to be.

He also says he is still on the music scene, although he operates behind the scenes and has been producing music for other artists. But now, he is planning and working on a new five-part concept album.

The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed. -Steve Biko
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid195079
Post by: ThinkingAfrican68 on Aug 02, 2016, 01:36 PM
QuoteFarafina diɲɛ;188937 wrote:  Over the last several months, I've started doubting whether this Long Game rationalization is legitimate or whether it's just a cover for cowardice. The plain fact of the matter is that political power does not require money, it only requires force. Look at these ISIS faggots -- takin over whole fuckin countries. Sure they probably got some seed cash from middle eastern politicians and warlords, but hell, they're taking over central banks, so they obviously didn't have all the money they needed when they started out. Boko Haram, same thing. Niger Delta Neo-Biafrans, same thing. Lords Resistance Army, similar. South Sudan, similar start. These men are building whole fucking countries because they're willing to go out there, use force, and put their lives on the line to enforce their ideologies. I won't speak for anyone else . . . but me? I ain't there yet. And I'm ashamed.

So that's why we aint in Ghana with you yet man. Cause we over here workin on Grand Plan shit (dottin every I and crossin every T; drivin up as much revenue as possible) cause we're afraid of failing.

I've come to a similar conclusion as well, recently. Much of the reason we haven't made as much progress as we'd like is purely due to our own fear and cowardice as Kmtyw MEN (not even women but men, since it is our role to do the "heavy lifting" required to put our race/group on top). Fact is, there's no "safe" way to change history or revolutionize the world; at some point, you have to actually go out there and take risks, conquer territories and win battles against your enemies. We lack true Kmtyw manhood.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid195102
Post by: Farafina diɲɛ on Aug 02, 2016, 07:22 PM
QuoteThinkingKmtyw68;195079 wrote: I've come to a similar conclusion as well, recently. Much of the reason we haven't made as much progress as we'd like is purely due to our own fear and cowardice as Kmtyw MEN (not even women but men, since it is our role to do the "heavy lifting" required to put our race/group on top). Fact is, there's no "safe" way to change history or revolutionize the world; at some point, you have to actually go out there and take risks, conquer territories and win battles against your enemies. We lack true Kmtyw manhood.
I think part of it is that we're atomized. When you're surrounded by people pushing for the same goals and when you can see other people on your team taking action, it gives you confidence to act too. That's a big part of the reason I'm always advocating to get off the internet in the ACBN comments sections. Nubian Times's recent post about starting a live chapter in NYC is encouraging. We need to take every opportunity to interact with genuine Kmtyw Power ideologues.
Title: Ask yaself homeboy...-gctid252293
Post by: Guest on Oct 07, 2017, 09:08 PM
QuoteNKO;189065 wrote: I'm wondering why we so worried about the Path to citizenship in Kmt yet we are not truly citizens in Amerikkka.  Remember the black man has no rights a white man is bound to respect, in Amerikkka. Why we worried we think our own brothers will treat us worse the the Krakkkaas? Do we believe they hype? We just now gettin to vote in the past fifty years as if that mattered anyway. Think new Jim Crow.
I am so tired of being here honestly. I am a convicted felony who can not walk in a store and buy a gun to protect the woman I married or the child we have or the house we are in debt to each month. It is depressing to think about. I hate not being able to speak openly about racism and Pan Kmtywim for fear of losing my job. I hate this NFL and NBA dominated society. I don't watch t.v., listen to radio or eat fast food....so I ask myself each day, "why am I here?"

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