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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid212917
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Dec 19, 2016, 05:51 PM
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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid217459
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jan 17, 2017, 04:42 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;212917 wrote: (https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161219%2F02b94f7197e82e8a68971c2caee7009a.jpg&hash=bf6dfb01e5698302d454e8435f12c86b57f0ea67)

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What the...

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid217466
Post by: Nana on Jan 17, 2017, 05:47 AM
Looks Greek to me. Except I didn't see with the resolution of my phone any expected homosexuality.

Is this for real and if so when is it dated?
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid217483
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 17, 2017, 07:40 AM
Here's better resolution of a portion: (https://bendphillips.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/img_0755.jpg)

It's the oldest depiction of human sexuality in the world and it comes from the Ramesside period around 1150 BCE. It came up because someone was talking about the Kama Sutra composed about 700 years later. No anti-sexuality in this as it's not greek. :sankofa:
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid217488
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 17, 2017, 07:42 AM
Here's the whole thing:
(https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facsimilefinder.com%2Fassets%2Fuploads%2FOriginalDocs_old%2F870%2Ferotic-papyrus-facsimile-edition-01.jpg&hash=24e425dfe61952b53ba70f5a52e230057ebe604b)
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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid217537
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jan 17, 2017, 03:42 PM
1150 BCE....a lot of expansion and attempts to bring in others under the dominion of Kemet.  I wonder if this is a reflection of cultural adaption. are there more of these kind of depictions that you know of??

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218015
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 20, 2017, 10:27 PM
I've seen similar graffito of Senenmut and Hatshepsut and other, later pieces that show intercourse.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/10/64/ee/1064ee3efd04eb087dbc0833f3b0a302.jpg)
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218018
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 20, 2017, 10:42 PM
Pleasing the barren/afflicted /hr ib inD/
(https://rapgod.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/an00231692_001.jpg?w=486&h=402)

(https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BYTFarJprZQ%2FTa1AdI7F7NI%2FAAAAAAAAAH8%2Fsc_WlSyIPOA%2Fs1600%2FWadi%2BHammamat%2B%2B%2525281158%252529.jpg&hash=09be4fb2785aa3b44b048ce34d020fab18efa2c0)
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218019
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 20, 2017, 10:47 PM
Geb and Nut

(https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi955.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae33%2FJulissa279%2FNUTnGEB.jpg&hash=2bbd4996c0dc68531c8202467cd442c024a352ad)
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218024
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jan 20, 2017, 11:22 PM
Wow never seen these.  Really curious as to what was written alongside these depictions.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218025
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jan 20, 2017, 11:27 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;218019 wrote: Geb and Nut

(https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi955.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae33%2FJulissa279%2FNUTnGEB.jpg&hash=2bbd4996c0dc68531c8202467cd442c024a352ad)
This is the only one I've seen before.
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218034
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 01:06 AM
QuoteAgya Yaw;218025 wrote: This is the only one I've seen before.
You've been sheltered...:D
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218036
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jan 21, 2017, 01:21 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;218034 wrote: You've been sheltered...:D
Sheltered in the streets.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218037
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 01:22 AM
QuoteAgya Yaw;218036 wrote: Sheltered in the streets.

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Exactly. One of the best places to seek shelter.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218039
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 01:47 AM
Quotekevlew;218024 wrote: Wow never seen these.  Really curious as to what was written alongside these depictions.

"Never be shamed of being Kmtyw" - Nana Thomas Sankara
Just read it.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218042
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:20 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;218018 wrote: Pleasing the barren/afflicted /hr ib inD/
(https://rapgod.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/an00231692_001.jpg?w=486&h=402)

(https://www.abibitumikasa.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BYTFarJprZQ%2FTa1AdI7F7NI%2FAAAAAAAAAH8%2Fsc_WlSyIPOA%2Fs1600%2FWadi%2BHammamat%2B%2B%2525281158%252529.jpg&hash=09be4fb2785aa3b44b048ce34d020fab18efa2c0)
I have seen this one before. What are your thoughts on homosexuality and ancient Kemet

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218043
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Jan 21, 2017, 02:21 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;218039 wrote: Just read it.

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Haha...I walked into that one.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218044
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:23 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;217483 wrote: Here's better resolution of a portion: (https://bendphillips.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/img_0755.jpg)

It's the oldest depiction of human sexuality in the world and it comes from the Ramesside period around 1150 BCE. It came up because someone was talking about the Kama Sutra composed about 700 years later. No anti-sexuality in this as it's not greek. :sankofa:
What does anti sexuality mean?

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218055
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 07:53 AM
QuoteAyisha5;218042 wrote: I have seen this one before. What are your thoughts on homosexuality and ancient Kemet

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homosexuality is anti-Kmtyw. Ancient Kemet started off Kmtyw=Black but over time, especially with the incursion of eureurasians became less so over time.
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218056
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 07:55 AM
QuoteAyisha5;218044 wrote: What does anti sexuality mean?

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anti- opposed to or against a particular thing or person
sexuality - a :  the condition of having sex; b :  sexual activity
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218061
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 08:19 AM
Quotekevlew;218043 wrote: Haha...I walked into that one.

“Never be shamed of being Kmtyw” - Nana Thomas Sankara
You did. Feel free to walk into this one too: https://abibitumikasa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=41_4&products_id=334 (https://abibitumikasa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=41_4&products_id=334)
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218082
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:00 PM
Have you found writings in ancient Kemet that suggest that? What does it say?

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218085
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:01 PM
I mean that suggest homosexuality is wrong that is. Has there been any evidence to suggest that?

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218087
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 02:07 PM
QuoteAyisha5;218085 wrote: I mean that suggest homosexuality is wrong that is. Has there been any evidence to suggest that?

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Sista, this ain't that site.
Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218088
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:19 PM
I was just wondering. I didn't mean to offend.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218089
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 02:21 PM
I have studied it a bit, but I'm sure not as much as you and was curious.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218090
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 21, 2017, 02:26 PM
QuoteAyisha5;218088 wrote: I was just wondering. I didn't mean to offend.

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I'm not offended. I'm just defending my time energy and effort.

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Title: Turin Erotic papyrus-gctid218092
Post by: Ayisha5 on Jan 21, 2017, 03:17 PM
Ok. I get it. Well hopefully God willing, I will be able to budget in some class this year.

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