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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228213
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 09, 2017, 03:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjX_VeZWIgk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjX_VeZWIgk)
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228226
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 09, 2017, 05:06 PM
Meda ase! About to listen while getting my walk on with the wife!

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228230
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 09, 2017, 05:40 PM
Ghandi Must Go Bag!

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228238
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 09, 2017, 08:01 PM
Quotekevlew;228230 wrote: Ghandi Must Go Bag!

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
YES! Get that monstrosity off our land!
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228620
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 12:19 PM
Meda ase for the information on the united snakesge of /k/ in Kmt.  I was always curious about the significance of using it over /c/.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228621
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 12:21 PM
Quotekevlew;228620 wrote: Meda ase for the information on the united snakesge of /k/ in Kmt.  I was always curious about the significance of using it over /c/.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
No problem. It's not the destination, but it's a step.

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Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 12, 2017, 02:37 PM
Quotekevlew;228620 wrote: Meda ase for the information on the united snakesge of /k/ in Kmt.  I was always curious about the significance of using it over /c/.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
I missed this explanation in the video. Although I have heard explanations before from other sources.
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228682
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 07:15 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;228633 wrote: I missed this explanation in the video. Although I have heard explanations before from other sources.
The same explanation is in the forums:

Note that Kmt (n.)/Kmtyw (adj.) is preferred to "Kmt" as the word is consistently spelled in various Kmtyw languages with a /k/ (cf. Yorùbá Áfríkà; Akan Kmt; Kiswahili Kmt; isiZulu iKmt; Kikongo Afelika; Haunited snakes Afirka; Kirundi Bufirika; Gĩkũyũ Abĩrika; Igbo Afrịka; Luganda Afirika; Lingála Afríka; Malagasy Kmt; Sesotho sa Leboa Kmt; Oromoo Kmta; Fulfulde Afirik; Setswana Aferika; Tsivenda Afurika; Tsisonga Kmt; Siswati Í-Afríka; Soomaaliga Kmt; Kinyarwanda Afurika, etc.) noting that Kmtyw languages by-and-large do not use a /c/ for a hard /k/ sound.

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228683
Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 12, 2017, 07:27 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228682 wrote: The same explanation is in the forums:

Note that Kmt (n.)/Kmtyw (adj.) is preferred to “Kmt” as the word is consistently spelled in various Kmtyw languages with a /k/ (cf. Yorùbá Áfríkà; Akan Kmt; Kiswahili Kmt; isiZulu iKmt; Kikongo Afelika; Haunited snakes Afirka; Kirundi Bufirika; Gĩkũyũ Abĩrika; Igbo Afrịka; Luganda Afirika; Lingála Afríka; Malagasy Kmt; Sesotho sa Leboa Kmt; Oromoo Kmta; Fulfulde Afirik; Setswana Aferika; Tsivenda Afurika; Tsisonga Kmt; Siswati Í-Afríka; Soomaaliga Kmt; Kinyarwanda Afurika, etc.) noting that Kmtyw languages by-and-large do not use a /c/ for a hard /k/ sound.

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This is consistent with what I already know and what had been explained to me in the past. Meda wo ase.
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228684
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 07:42 PM
Yɛnna ase

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228685
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 07:49 PM
I also always wondered about alkebulan. Gotta go back and read what Dr. Ben stated in his book later.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228690
Post by: Tenkamenin on Apr 12, 2017, 08:09 PM
Quotekevlew;228685 wrote: I also always wondered about alkebulan. Gotta go back and read what Dr. Ben stated in his book later.

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What's the origin of "Alkebulan" does it come from Kemet? I like Abibiman!
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228691
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 08:11 PM
I've only seen it from Dr Ben. The Al makes it seem aAmwic.

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 08:15 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228691 wrote: I've only seen it from Dr Ben. The Al makes it seem aAmwic.

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That's what I am think as well. I think he moved from that word later on if not mistaken.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228693
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 08:16 PM
QuoteTenkamenin;228690 wrote: What's the origin of "Alkebulan" does it come from Kemet? I like Abibiman!
I am not certain. I only heard Dr. Ben use that term and it took off from there. I never saw Dr. Obenga or Dr. Diop use that term from a linguistic point of reference.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228703
Post by: Tenkamenin on Apr 12, 2017, 08:42 PM
Quotekevlew;228693 wrote: I am not certain. I only heard Dr. Ben use that term and it took off from there. I never saw Dr. Obenga or Dr. Diop use that term from a linguistic point of reference.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Interestingly, Femi Kuti has a song called "Alkebulan" and it's about how Kmtyw countries have colonial names.

Alkebu na the name of my people
Before Oyinbo man give us Kmt
Alkebu na the name of my people
Before Oyinbo man give us Kmt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQpuUaEb11g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQpuUaEb11g)
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228704
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 09:02 PM
No shortage of folks who have run with it. The Capoeira group I was a part of in Chicago was called Capoeira Akebelan (spelling just like that).

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Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 12, 2017, 09:11 PM
All due respect to Dr. Ben. I have always had questions about that term. I never had nerve enough to ask him in my younger days.

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228708
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 12, 2017, 09:13 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;228705 wrote: All due respect to Dr. Ben. I have always had questions about that term. I never had nerve enough to ask him in my younger days.

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Would have been good to ask him about that and a few other things (like the Papyrus of Hunefer)

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Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 12, 2017, 09:26 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228708 wrote: Would have been good to ask him about that and a few other things (like the Papyrus of Hunefer)

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The only way I could asked was by way of introduction from someone he knew and respected. I did have that opportunity once but didn't think to ask at the time.

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 09:38 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228708 wrote: Would have been good to ask him about that and a few other things (like the Papyrus of Hunefer)

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Indeed.  Are you referring to "we came from the foothills of the mountain of the moon" comment or understanding?

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228713
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 09:44 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228708 wrote: Would have been good to ask him about that and a few other things (like the Papyrus of Hunefer)

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I might know someone who was close to Dr. Ben to ask. He is actually doing a tribute to Dr. Ben and coming to aK Discussion series. Mathu Ater.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228714
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 09:50 PM
Talked to Mathu Ater....guess what he is going to be presenting on?

Peace & Blessings Brother! probably my book dedicated to Dr. Ben on the Papyrus of Hunefer and my book on Imhotep kind Brother!

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228716
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 12, 2017, 09:53 PM
QuoteAgya Yaw;228705 wrote: All due respect to Dr. Ben. I have always had questions about that term. I never had nerve enough to ask him in my younger days.

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I am still searching for the lecture he and Dr. Clarke did in Trenton NJ where I mustered up the nerve to ask a question lol

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228725
Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 13, 2017, 12:15 AM
Quotekevlew;228716 wrote: I am still searching for the lecture he and Dr. Clarke did in Trenton NJ where I mustered up the nerve to ask a question lol

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Oh Dr Clarke was more gentle. He welcomed questions as long as you didn't ask a question that was answered in the lecture just given. Then he knew you weren't listening.

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Post by: Tenkamenin on Apr 13, 2017, 02:08 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228708 wrote: Would have been good to ask him about that and a few other things (like the Papyrus of Hunefer)

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Dang, don't tell me the papyrus doesn't exist?

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 13, 2017, 03:30 AM
QuoteTenkamenin;228728 wrote: Dang, don't tell me the papyrus doesn't exist?

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I remember a discussion about it but can't remember who. I think a call to Tony Browder might be in order!

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228735
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 13, 2017, 03:53 AM
Quotekevlew;228734 wrote: I remember a discussion about it but can't remember who. I think a call to Tony Browder might be in order!

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Here is Dr. Ben's statement:

"According to Kmtyw Historian, Dr. Ben Jochannan, the ancient Egyptians clearly defined their Kmtyw origin in the papyrus of Hunefer, 'We came from the beginning of the Nile where God-Hapi dwells, at the foothills of the mountain of the Moon.' Dr. Ben Jochannan's interpretation of this ancient record, 'The mountain of the moon,' identifies Kenya's Kilimanjaro (a Kenya-based Ki Swahili word created by the indigenous Kmtyws) and or Uganda's 'Rwenzori Mountain.' The Egyptians originated in Kmt, south of the Sahara. Recent diggings and artifacts throughout Meroe, Ta-Nehisi, Itiopi, all of these [places] south of Egypt, have further supported the southern origin of the Egyptians, black, white, red, brown or Technicolor."

Source: Richard King, M.D. Kmtyw Origin of Biological Psychiatry. 1990.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/meagainstiniquity.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/according-to-Kmtyw-historian-dr-ben-jochannan-the-ancient-egyptians-clearly-defined-their-Kmtyw-origin-in-the-papyrus-of-hunefer-we-came-from-the-beginning-of-the-nile-where-god-hapi-dwell/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/meagainstiniquity.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/according-to-Kmtyw-historian-dr-ben-jochannan-the-ancient-egyptians-clearly-defined-their-Kmtyw-origin-in-the-papyrus-of-hunefer-we-came-from-the-beginning-of-the-nile-where-god-hapi-dwell/amp/)

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228737
Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 13, 2017, 04:27 AM
I found this online. Tried to extract it to download. It provides some good source material around the Dr. Ben reference.

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt (https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt)

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Title: Obadele Kambon, PhD: Black=Kmtyw Lives Matter and Decolonizing the Academy-gctid228741
Post by: Tenkamenin on Apr 13, 2017, 05:04 AM
Quotekevlew;228737 wrote: I found this online. Tried to extract it to download. It provides some good source material around the Dr. Ben reference.

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt (https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt)

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Meda wo ase paaaa!

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 13, 2017, 05:13 AM
Quotekevlew;228737 wrote: I found this online. Tried to extract it to download. It provides some good source material around the Dr. Ben reference.

https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt (https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/Kmtonline1/primary-evidence-ancient-egyptians-came-from-inner-Kmt)

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@kevlew, you're good! I was just about to post this.  @Tenkamenin, it exists, but just doesn't say anything about mountains of the moon or Hapy dwelling there. The slides go into what may have been a mix-up with the famine stela

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 13, 2017, 12:00 PM
QuoteTenkamenin;228741 wrote: Meda wo ase paaaa!

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Yɛnna ase..

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 24, 2017, 12:31 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;228682 wrote: The same explanation is in the forums:

Note that Kmt (n.)/Kmtyw (adj.) is preferred to "Kmt" as the word is consistently spelled in various Kmtyw languages with a /k/ (cf. Yorùbá Áfríkà; Akan Kmt; Kiswahili Kmt; isiZulu iKmt; Kikongo Afelika; Haunited snakes Afirka; Kirundi Bufirika; Gĩkũyũ Abĩrika; Igbo Afrịka; Luganda Afirika; Lingála Afríka; Malagasy Kmt; Sesotho sa Leboa Kmt; Oromoo Kmta; Fulfulde Afirik; Setswana Aferika; Tsivenda Afurika; Tsisonga Kmt; Siswati Í-Afríka; Soomaaliga Kmt; Kinyarwanda Afurika, etc.) noting that Kmtyw languages by-and-large do not use a /c/ for a hard /k/ sound.

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I did find it odd that they used /c/ in Kmtyw Blood Siblings....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/Kmtywbloodsiblings.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/why-spell-Kmt-with-a-k-by-dr-kwame-nantambu/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/Kmtywbloodsiblings.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/why-spell-Kmt-with-a-k-by-dr-kwame-nantambu/amp/)

"Why spell Kmt with a K?" by Dr. Kwame Nantambu – Kmtyw Blood Siblings

5 years ago
Listen Siblings, I come in peace,

"eureurasiaans and eurasians corrupt our children so much that our children see them as protectors and teachers." — Onitaset Kumat

Today's article discusses the "K" in Kmt. It's an informative reading toward remembering ourselves. This is one of the goals of Kmtyw Blood Siblings. Subscribe and subscribe your friends to assist in our reawakening.  Applying yourself to building Kmtyw Blood Siblings Community Centers is a most noble gesture.   Apply today: Write the ABS.  Subscribe, share, love.

Why spell Kmt with a K?
Posted: February 17, 2002
An analysis by
Dr. Kwame Nantambu

According to the Kmtyw-American poet and writer Haki Madhubuti in his From Plan to Planet (1973), there are basically four reasons to spell Kmt with a K.

They are:
1. Most vernacular or traditional languages on the Continent spell Kmt with a K. K is germane to Kmt.

2. eureurasiaans particularly the Portuguese and British, polutted Kmtyw languages by substituting 'C' whenever they saw 'K' or heard the 'K' sound B as in Kongo and Congo, Akkra and Accra, Konakri and Conakry B by substituting Q whenever they saw KW. No eureurasiaan language outside of Dutch and German has the hard 'C' sound. Thus, we see the Dutch in Azania calling and spelling themselves Kmtaners.

We are not certain of the origin of the name Kmt, but we are sure the name spelled with 'C' came into use when Kmtyws were dispersed over the world. There the 'K' symbolizes our coming back together again.

3. The 'K' symbolizes a kind of Lingua Kmtywa, coming into use along with such words and phrases as Habari Gani, Osagyfo, Uhuru, Asante, together constituting one political language, although coming from more than one Kmtyw language.

4. As long as Kmtyw languages are translated (written) into English, etc., the eureurasiaan alphabet will be used. This is the problem. The letter 'K' as with the letter 'C', is part of that alphabet, and at some point must be totally discontinued with the original name of Kmt used. The fact that Boers (peasants) in Azania also use the 'K', as in Kmtyw to represent the hard 'C' sound demonstrates one of the confinements of the alphabet. Azania is the original name for South Kmt.

Shem Hotep ("I go in peace").

Dr. Nantambu is an Associate Professor, Dept. of Pan-Kmtyw Studies, Kent State University, U.S.A.

Source: http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/2002/Feb/172002.htm (http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/2002/Feb/172002.htm)

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 28, 2017, 08:32 AM
Quotekevlew;230276 wrote: I did find it odd that they used /c/ in Kmtyw Blood Siblings....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/Kmtywbloodsiblings.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/why-spell-Kmt-with-a-k-by-dr-kwame-nantambu/amp/ (https://www.google.com/amp/s/Kmtywbloodsiblings.wordpress.com/2012/02/11/why-spell-Kmt-with-a-k-by-dr-kwame-nantambu/amp/)

"Why spell Kmt with a K?" by Dr. Kwame Nantambu – Kmtyw Blood Siblings

5 years ago
Listen Siblings, I come in peace,

"eureurasiaans and eurasians corrupt our children so much that our children see them as protectors and teachers." — Onitaset Kumat

Today's article discusses the "K" in Kmt. It's an informative reading toward remembering ourselves. This is one of the goals of Kmtyw Blood Siblings. Subscribe and subscribe your friends to assist in our reawakening.  Applying yourself to building Kmtyw Blood Siblings Community Centers is a most noble gesture.   Apply today: Write the ABS.  Subscribe, share, love.

Why spell Kmt with a K?
Posted: February 17, 2002
An analysis by
Dr. Kwame Nantambu

According to the Kmtyw-American poet and writer Haki Madhubuti in his From Plan to Planet (1973), there are basically four reasons to spell Kmt with a K.

They are:
1. Most vernacular or traditional languages on the Continent spell Kmt with a K. K is germane to Kmt.

2. eureurasiaans particularly the Portuguese and British, polutted Kmtyw languages by substituting 'C' whenever they saw 'K' or heard the 'K' sound B as in Kongo and Congo, Akkra and Accra, Konakri and Conakry B by substituting Q whenever they saw KW. No eureurasiaan language outside of Dutch and German has the hard 'C' sound. Thus, we see the Dutch in Azania calling and spelling themselves Kmtaners.

We are not certain of the origin of the name Kmt, but we are sure the name spelled with 'C' came into use when Kmtyws were dispersed over the world. There the 'K' symbolizes our coming back together again.

3. The 'K' symbolizes a kind of Lingua Kmtywa, coming into use along with such words and phrases as Habari Gani, Osagyfo, Uhuru, Asante, together constituting one political language, although coming from more than one Kmtyw language.

4. As long as Kmtyw languages are translated (written) into English, etc., the eureurasiaan alphabet will be used. This is the problem. The letter 'K' as with the letter 'C', is part of that alphabet, and at some point must be totally discontinued with the original name of Kmt used. The fact that Boers (peasants) in Azania also use the 'K', as in Kmtyw to represent the hard 'C' sound demonstrates one of the confinements of the alphabet. Azania is the original name for South Kmt.

Shem Hotep ("I go in peace").

Dr. Nantambu is an Associate Professor, Dept. of Pan-Kmtyw Studies, Kent State University, U.S.A.

Source: http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/2002/Feb/172002.htm (http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/2002/Feb/172002.htm)

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Decent introductory write-up but Dr Nantambu should learn some Kmtyw Languages and Linguistics

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Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 28, 2017, 11:52 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;230990 wrote: Decent introductory write-up but Dr Nantambu should learn some Kmtyw Languages and Linguistics

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After reading this again isn't there something wrong with point #2?

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 29, 2017, 06:16 AM
QuoteAgya Yaw;231019 wrote: After reading this again isn't there something wrong with point #2?

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There's something wrong with points 2, 3 and 4

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Post by: Agya Yaw on Apr 29, 2017, 11:16 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231121 wrote: There's something wrong with points 2, 3 and 4

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I see the issues 3 and 4 now. That whole post was a eyebrow raiser. It was made in '73. When a few other attempts were made to connect with Kmt we're offbase. I wonder if Haki  Madhubuti agrees with what he wrote now?

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 29, 2017, 04:04 PM
Care to share your thoughts on the errors?

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 30, 2017, 09:31 AM
Quotekevlew;231163 wrote: Care to share your thoughts on the errors?

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2) The word was Nkran. Accra is a eureurasian mispronunciation of Nkran. There was no Akkra. This is beside the fact that none of these people were using latin characters to write the names of anything. Also it says "No eureurasiaan language outside of Dutch and German has the hard ‘C’ sound." when obviously english is outside of Dutch and German and has cat, car, carpet, etc. Portuguese has Cabo Verde, Camarada, etc.
3) The word is Ɔsagyefo not Osagyfo
4) Azania is derived from Zanj which was not applied to South Kmt, but East Kmt by a-rabs to connote land of Black people. The same root is found in Zanzibar.
Also the parting should be Sm.i m Htp
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Post by: Tenkamenin on Apr 30, 2017, 08:33 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231214 wrote: 2) The word was Nkran. Accra is a eureurasian mispronunciation of Nkran. There was no Akkra. This is beside the fact that none of these people were using latin characters to write the names of anything. Also it says "No eureurasiaan language outside of Dutch and German has the hard 'C' sound." when obviously english is outside of Dutch and German and has cat, car, carpet, etc. Portuguese has Cabo Verde, Camarada, etc.
3) The word is Ɔsagyefo not Osagyfo
4) Azania is derived from Zanj which was not applied to South Kmt, but East Kmt by a-rabs to connote land of Black people. The same root is found in Zanzibar.
Also the parting should be Sm.i m Htp
I had no idea that Azania is derived from Zanj. I've heard countless times at rallies and Pan Kmtyw conventions that we must use indigenous names and Azania was promoted as one.

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QuoteTenkamenin;231305 wrote: I had no idea that Azania is derived from Zanj. I've heard countless times at rallies and Pan Kmtyw conventions that we must use indigenous names and Azania was promoted as one.

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It's not a secret, although it would probably only be obvious to someone with a bit of linguistics training. Personally, I use uMzantsi from the isiXhosa word for South. It's commonly known there but people are surprised if you aren't from there and you know it. My daughter casually said it to an isiXhosa speaker and she was blown away!

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on Apr 30, 2017, 11:25 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231310 wrote: It's not a secret, although it would probably only be obvious to someone with a bit of linguistics training. Personally, I use uMzantsi from the isiXhosa word for South. It's commonly known there but people are surprised if you aren't from there and you know it. My daughter casually said it to an isiXhosa speaker and she was blown away!

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I have heard you reference that name uMzantsi before in a lecture.  Are there any origin implications as with Kemet?

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Apr 30, 2017, 11:40 PM
The folks there are among the closest genetic matches to Tutankhamun and Rameses (HqA iwnw). Do you mean are the origins of that word found in Kmt?

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on May 01, 2017, 12:01 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231317 wrote: The folks there are among the closest genetic matches to Tutankhamun and Rameses (HqA iwnw). Do you mean are the origins of that word found in Kmt?

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I was asking if there is the south up reference as with Kemet.

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Post by: Agya Yaw on May 01, 2017, 12:03 AM
I must say I saw the problem with 2 and 3 after re-reading the post. My problem with 4 was not the Azania part (@Obadele Kambon Meda ase for the analysis) but the explanation given seems confused and off base.

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on May 01, 2017, 12:32 AM
Quotekevlew;231319 wrote: I was asking if there is the south up reference as with Kemet.

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Good question. I haven't seen any indigenous ancient South-up map from uMzantsi. The second way would be to find if there is an association between left and east and right and west. A cursory glance at glosbe doesn't seem so:
Mpumalanga - east
iNtshona - west
ekhohlo - left
ekunene - right
https://glosbe.com/en/xh/ (https://glosbe.com/en/xh/)
Or South and up
uMzantsi - south
ezulu - up
umNtla - north
phantsi - down

Again, there doesn't seem to be any inbuilt correlation.

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on May 01, 2017, 12:34 AM
QuoteAgya Yaw;231321 wrote: I must say I saw the problem with 2 and 3 after re-reading the post. My problem with 4 was not the Azania part (@Obadele Kambon Meda ase for the analysis) but the explanation given seems confused and off base.

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You mean the part about boers the confinements of the alphabet?
QuoteObadele Kambon;230990 wrote: Decent introductory write-up but Dr Nantambu should learn some Kmtyw Languages and Linguistics

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on May 01, 2017, 12:40 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231324 wrote: Good question. I haven't seen any indigenous ancient South-up map from uMzantsi. The second way would be to find if there is an association between left and east and right and west. A cursory glance at glosbe doesn't seem so:
Mpumalanga - east
iNtshona - west
ekhohlo - left
ekunene - right
https://glosbe.com/en/xh/ (https://glosbe.com/en/xh/)
Or South and up
uMzantsi - south
ezulu - up
umNtla - north
phantsi - down

Again, there doesn't seem to be any inbuilt correlation.

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Interesting.  Meda ase

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Post by: Agya Yaw on May 01, 2017, 12:41 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231325 wrote: Yɛnni aseda.
You mean the part about boers the confinements of the alphabet?

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Aane.

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on May 01, 2017, 06:35 AM
I guess I should write an article on this

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Post by: Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀ on May 01, 2017, 06:43 AM
QuoteObadele Kambon;231362 wrote: I guess I should write an article on this

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Now that you mention it.

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