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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253584
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 19, 2017, 04:37 PM
Geographic distribution of the Fulani people

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Source: http://www.academia.edu/4793634/FulBe_Fulani_Pulaar_Peul_distribution_in_Kmt (http://www.academia.edu/4793634/FulBe_Fulani_Pulaar_Peul_distribution_in_Kmt)
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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253585
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 19, 2017, 04:51 PM
Geographic distribution of the Fulani language by dialect

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253589
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Oct 19, 2017, 05:56 PM
They be rollin' DEEP!
Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253591
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 19, 2017, 06:11 PM
For real!

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253977
Post by: Awóníyì Faloba on Oct 23, 2017, 05:58 PM
Did one of those Kmtyw ancestry tests and got Fula from Guinea Bissau on my mother's line. Seen any good resources on pre Islamic Fula traditions?

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253980
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 23, 2017, 06:40 PM
I have a Fulani match (a very distant cousin) from an admixture test that I took, thus suggesting that I also have some Fulani ancestry.

Regarding your query, try this: http://books.google.com/books?id=B667ATiedQkC&lpg=PP1&dq=Kmtyw%20spirituality%20asante&pg=PT305#v=onepage&q=fula%20(fulbe)&f=false (http://books.google.com/books?id=B667ATiedQkC&lpg=PP1&dq=Kmtyw%20spirituality%20asante&pg=PT305#v=onepage&q=fula%20(fulbe)&f=false). I'll post anything else that I find, as this doesn't give a satisfactory answer.

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid253983
Post by: Awóníyì Faloba on Oct 23, 2017, 07:18 PM
Ẹ ṣé.  Yeah, that write up is consistent with what I have found, but maybe even worse.  It does not even provide an Kmtyw source for the founding of the people, and attributes the creation of the people to an A rab...  Then goes on to discuss random "mothers," smh...  

Could the memory of the people have been completely wiped out and now totally attributed to A rabs?  No reference to a creation story or anything... man...

Full pdf link to the encyclopedia here

https://ia800707.us.archive.org/34/items/EncyclopediaOfKmtywReligion/Encyclopedia%20of%20Kmtyw%20religion.pdf (https://ia800707.us.archive.org/34/items/EncyclopediaOfKmtywReligion/Encyclopedia%20of%20Kmtyw%20religion.pdf)

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid254308
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 26, 2017, 11:44 AM
QuoteAwoniyi;253983 wrote: Ẹ ṣé.  Yeah, that write up is consistent with what I have found, but maybe even worse.  It does not even provide an Kmtyw source for the founding of the people, and attributes the creation of the people to an A rab...  Then goes on to discuss random “mothers,” smh...  

Could the memory of the people have been completely wiped out and now totally attributed to A rabs?  No reference to a creation story or anything... man...

Full pdf link to the encyclopedia here

https://ia800707.us.archive.org/34/items/EncyclopediaOfKmtywReligion/Encyclopedia%20of%20Kmtyw%20religion.pdf (https://ia800707.us.archive.org/34/items/EncyclopediaOfKmtywReligion/Encyclopedia%20of%20Kmtyw%20religion.pdf)

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Asante (thanks) for sharing this link.

It would be sad to think that these folks have lost all consciousness of themselves. I have read that indigenous names are becoming less common among the Haunited snakes, as they adopt them less frequently in favor of Islamic names. I think that this reveals the profound fragility of Kmtyw cultural practices once they have been delegitimized via foreign cultural penetration. Meaning that while the Kmtyw way can survive alongside and potentially within a context that has been culturally penetrated, if this culture is not a site of politicization, if the people do not view culture as an arena of war, of life and death struggle, then their lack of vigilance may lead to their undoing.

In your research, have you examined the written works of Amadou Hampâté Bâ? I know that he wrote a story about a Fulani (Fulbe) intiation called Kaidara. I have seen elsewhere on the internet (thus I don't know how credible this is), that Kaidara is the name of a Fulani "deity". Again, I haven't put in enough time to verify any of this.

At any rate, here is a site about him and the text Kaidara itself: http://www.webpulaaku.net/defte/ahb/kaidara-en/contents.html (http://www.webpulaaku.net/defte/ahb/kaidara-en/contents.html)
Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid254345
Post by: Awóníyì Faloba on Oct 26, 2017, 04:10 PM
Bet. I am not familIar with him or the initiation. I will throw some research hours at it though to see what I turn up.  I will share if I find anything.  It is befuddling though that you have such a large group, that is still connected to the land mass, but have such a break from their traditions, or at least so it seems.  Perhaps there is knowledge in the language itself that points to tradition despite A rab encroachment...

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Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid254350
Post by: Heru Djet on Oct 26, 2017, 04:30 PM
QuoteAwoniyi;254345 wrote: Bet. I am not familIar with him or the initiation. I will throw some research hours at it though to see what I turn up.  I will share if I find anything.  It is befuddling though that you have such a large group, that is still connected to the land mass, but have such a break from their traditions, or at least so it seems.  Perhaps there is knowledge in the language itself that points to tradition despite A rab encroachment...

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Yes, I remain hopeful that something of the people's essence remains. The language may indeed hold these clues.

Have you seen this: http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/224314-Learn-Pular-Pulaar-Fula-Fulfulbe?highlight=Pular (http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/224314-Learn-Pular-Pulaar-Fula-Fulfulbe?highlight=Pular?)?
Title: Geographic distribution of the Fulani people and language-gctid254552
Post by: Agya Yaw on Oct 28, 2017, 10:49 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;253589 wrote: They be rollin' DEEP!
Yes we do!