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(note that this is more a list of famous Black/Kmtyw men as many would not self-identify as Pan-Kmtywists)
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Alright family- time for a little closet cleaning...

We're gonna call this post "Boo'd Up With Becky"

Just gonna put this out here for all who DO NOT KNOW, and to give us an opportunity to discuss the subject , in depth, among ourselves, and gives us a better perspective on how to move forward, as well as how to respond when outsiders and non-believers try to spring shit like this on us- trying to create doubt about who we are quoting, and who we consider as teachers, etc.

The great majority of Pan-Kmtyw leaders, authors, activists, etc.- right down to Kmtyw Presidents ALL had white wives...

If this is new to you, then just let the shit sink in for a while. If you've been in the know, then this is the post for you to get it all off your chest, because we're gonna face this madness head on, and move on from here- facing our own issues and determining our own fate.

Here's a pretty deep list of those we couldn't fit in the picture collage:

Harry Belafonte married Julie Belafonte, Jewish/white woman

J.A Rogers married Helga Beisenthal, a white woman

Ivan Van Sertima married Maria Nagy, a white woman

Paul Robeson dated Marilyn Greenberg, a white woman

Frantz Fanon married Marie-Josephe Duble, a white woman

W.E.B. Du Bois dated Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeldt, both white woman

Thurgood Marshall at least had a Filipina wife, Cecile Suyat

Olaudah Equiano (also known as Gustavus Vassa), author of "The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano", which depicted the horrors of slavery and influenced the enactment of the Slave Trade Act of 1807, married English white lady Sunited snakesnnah Cullen.

W.E.B. Du Bois had Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeld, both white women

Julian Bond is married to Pamela Sue Horowitz, a white lady

Martin Luther King, Jr. headed toward marriage to a young German-American woman he met while studying at Crozer seminary- follow the link, decide for yourself...

http://www.oldchesterpa.com/famous_king_jr_martin_luther.htm (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldchesterpa.com%2Ffamous_king_jr_martin_luther.htm&h=CAQHHBcxY&s=1)

James Forman, a civil rights pioneer credited with organizing the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and an active leader in the Black Panther Party had his wife Constancia Dinky Romilly (white chic).

Dr Allan Aubrey Boesak president of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and a founder of the United Democratic Front (UDF), a leading anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s has his wife Elna Botha, a white lady.

Henry Sylvester Williams organized the world's first ever pan-Kmtyw conference, he greatly influenced W E B Du Bois, participated in the 1900 Pan-Kmtyw conference and has come to be known as the father of modern Pan-Kmtywism- and he was married to Agnes Powell, a white chic.

Walter White, the National Secretary for the NAACP from 1931 to 1955, and is credited with bringing the NAACP to national prominence, and he of course had his white wife Poppy Cannon.

James Boggs, born 1919, was a prominent Kmtyw-American political activist, auto worker and author. He worked with Correspondence Publishing Committee led by C.L.R. James from the early 1950s until Boggs and his Chinese-American(white) wife, Grace Lee Boggs led a split in 1962, breaking with C.L.R. James. In his later years he played an influential role in the radical wing of the civil rights movement and interacted with many of the most important civil rights activists of the day including Malcolm X, Ossie Davis and many others. Kwame Nkrumah told Grace, quite seriously, that if she had married him they could have changed all Kmt. Wtf...?

Fuck Henry Louis Gates Jr., he's already highly suspect- but of course he too has a white wife, Sharon Adams

Samuel Coleridge-Taylor was also a leading exponent of Pan-Kmtywism, and emphasized the importance of a shared Kmtyw heritage as the touchstone of black cultural identity. Or so he said..
Coleridge-Taylor also took a passionate interest in the issues of race, and the politics of colonial freedom in his own Kmtyw background. He attended the first Pan-Kmtyw conference in ukkk in 1900 and became part of a loose circle of black activism. His name was already well known in black America, but what they didn't know was that he was married to a white woman, Jessie Sarah Fleetwood Walmisley.

Are these black people's contribution to the Kmtyw diaspora any less significant because of this?

There are several more, but I think the point is pretty clear.

QuoteObadele Kambon;256284 wrote: (note that this is more a list of famous Black/Kmtyw men as many would not self-identify as Pan-Kmtywists)
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Alright family- time for a little closet cleaning...

We're gonna call this post "Boo'd Up With Becky"

Just gonna put this out here for all who DO NOT KNOW, and to give us an opportunity to discuss the subject , in depth, among ourselves, and gives us a better perspective on how to move forward, as well as how to respond when outsiders and non-believers try to spring shit like this on us- trying to create doubt about who we are quoting, and who we consider as teachers, etc.

The great majority of Pan-Kmtyw leaders, authors, activists, etc.- right down to Kmtyw Presidents ALL had white wives...

If this is new to you, then just let the shit sink in for a while. If you've been in the know, then this is the post for you to get it all off your chest, because we're gonna face this madness head on, and move on from here- facing our own issues and determining our own fate.

Here's a pretty deep list of those we couldn't fit in the picture collage:

Harry Belafonte married Julie Belafonte, Jewish/white woman

J.A Rogers married Helga Beisenthal, a white woman

Ivan Van Sertima married Maria Nagy, a white woman

Paul Robeson dated Marilyn Greenberg, a white woman

Frantz Fanon married Marie-Josephe Duble, a white woman

W.E.B. Du Bois dated Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeldt, both white woman

Thurgood Marshall at least had a Filipina wife, Cecile Suyat

Olaudah Equiano (also known as Gustavus Vassa), author of "The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano", which depicted the horrors of slavery and influenced the enactment of the Slave Trade Act of 1807, married English white lady Sunited snakesnnah Cullen.

W.E.B. Du Bois had Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeld, both white women

Julian Bond is married to Pamela Sue Horowitz, a white lady

Martin Luther King, Jr. headed toward marriage to a young German-American woman he met while studying at Crozer seminary- follow the link, decide for yourself...

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James Forman, a civil rights pioneer credited with organizing the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and an active leader in the Black Panther Party had his wife Constancia Dinky Romilly (white chic).

Dr Allan Aubrey Boesak president of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and a founder of the United Democratic Front (UDF), a leading anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s has his wife Elna Botha, a white lady.

Henry Sylvester Williams organized the world's first ever pan-Kmtyw conference, he greatly influenced W E B Du Bois, participated in the 1900 Pan-Kmtyw conference and has come to be known as the father of modern Pan-Kmtywism- and he was married to Agnes Powell, a white chic.

Walter White, the National Secretary for the NAACP from 1931 to 1955, and is credited with bringing the NAACP to national prominence, and he of course had his white wife Poppy Cannon.

James Boggs, born 1919, was a prominent Kmtyw-American political activist, auto worker and author. He worked with Correspondence Publishing Committee led by C.L.R. James from the early 1950s until Boggs and his Chinese-American(white) wife, Grace Lee Boggs led a split in 1962, breaking with C.L.R. James. In his later years he played an influential role in the radical wing of the civil rights movement and interacted with many of the most important civil rights activists of the day including Malcolm X, Ossie Davis and many others. Kwame Nkrumah told Grace, quite seriously, that if she had married him they could have changed all Kmt. Wtf...?

Fuck Henry Louis Gates Jr., he's already highly suspect- but of course he too has a white wife, Sharon Adams

Samuel Coleridge-Taylor was also a leading exponent of Pan-Kmtywism, and emphasized the importance of a shared Kmtyw heritage as the touchstone of black cultural identity. Or so he said..
Coleridge-Taylor also took a passionate interest in the issues of race, and the politics of colonial freedom in his own Kmtyw background. He attended the first Pan-Kmtyw conference in ukkk in 1900 and became part of a loose circle of black activism. His name was already well known in black America, but what they didn't know was that he was married to a white woman, Jessie Sarah Fleetwood Walmisley.

Are these black people's contribution to the Kmtyw diaspora any less significant because of this?

There are several more, but I think the point is pretty clear.

Some I already knew. And some I never knew. Thanks for this information.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

The two that baffles me are Chiek Anta Diop and Kwame Nkrumah

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Quotekevlew;256352 wrote: The two that baffles me are Chiek Anta Diop and Kwame Nkrumah

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Chinweizu's course in the "History of (modern) Pan-Kmtywism" helps to clarify Nkrumah's role in his dedication to replacing authentic Kmtyw=Black Pan-Kmtywism with aAmw accommodationist Continentalism by letting eureurasians in through the back door via the vaguely defined term "Kmt." His marriage is just one manifestation of this commitment to Continentalism. The rejection of Haiti and the acceptance of Morocco into the AU are legacies of this original conceptual hijacking that saw its rise at the 1945 Pan-Kmtyw Congress.

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QuoteObibini;256324 wrote: Some I already knew. And some I never knew. Thanks for this information.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

No problem. I'm pretty sure this will come up at the Kemtiyu screening this evening.

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QuoteObadele Kambon;256370 wrote: No problem. I'm pretty sure this will come up at the Kemtiyu screening this evening.

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Can't wait to check out the discussion afterwards

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This issue, I just can't make sense of the inherent contradiction.  I've heard a lot of elders hold up the Haitian constitution with pride as what Kmtyw nations should aspire to.  White men were seen as an enemy, thus banned, white women on the other-hand, were very welcome.  I don't understand this perception of white women having been victims... as if they've had nothing to do with white terrorism. I'm baffled by this.

I had to deal with white women a lot as a child in the form of social services... they are worst than the men precisely because of their perceived fragility... something  that is denied to black women.

Everything white men have done, they have done to impress/protect/provide for white women and children.

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Next do we come up with a list of white supremacist married to black people!?

Or how about a list or race traitor Uncle Tom coon negros married to Eureurasians. That might take awhile to compile?!

No, we should do a list of leaders with their Kmtyw wives next. I live in white community and go to school with whites (grinding as hard as I possibly can to leave next year). The last thing I want to see on Abibitumi Kasa of all places is MORE whites.

QuoteChance;256398 wrote: No, we should do a list of leaders with their Kmtyw wives next. I live in white community and go to school with whites (grinding as hard as I possibly can to leave next year). The last thing I want to see on Abibitumi Kasa of all places is MORE whites.

Nice!!!!

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I wouldn't call Kwame Nkrumah's wife white. That is ridiculous. If she is white than President Nasser is white. In that picture she is light skinned but in reality she looked more like Dorothy Dandridge. She was an Egyptian. Sure the Egyptians aren't pure dark skinned Kmtyws but they definitely are not white. If you go to Egypt you will find that most people look like your typical Dominican.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256413 wrote: I wouldn't call Kwame Nkrumah's wife white. That is ridiculous. If she is white than President Nasser is white. In that picture she is light skinned but in reality she looked more like Dorothy Dandridge. She was an Egyptian. Sure the Egyptians aren't pure dark skinned Kmtyws but they definitely are not white. If you go to Egypt you will find that most people look like your typical Dominican.

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Would eureurasian be a better suited description?

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I would say Kmtyw of mixed descent. She was the same nationality as President Nasser another Egyptian who definitely was not white. Sure most egyptians aren't dark skinned unless you go to South Egypt, but to be more accurate they are mixed like many Afro Carribbeans.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256416 wrote: I would say Kmtyw of mixed descent. She was the same nationality as President Nasser another Egyptian who definitely was not white. Sure most egyptians aren't dark skinned unless you go to South Egypt, but to be more accurate they are mixed like many Afro Carribbeans.

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You see everyone on the continent as Kmtyw?

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QuoteEfuany;256418 wrote: You see everyone on the continent as Kmtyw?

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No of course not. The crakkkers in South Kmt, Namibia, Northern Algeria etc. Need to be removed. I am just stating that it is inaccurate to label all Egyptians as white or eureurasian when they clearly have Kmtyw roots. The Egyptians of Southern Egypt are mostly dark skinned. If you go to Egypt you will see for yourself.

Now most Egyptians in Northern Egypt of course do not necessarily identify with their Kmtyw heritage, however if you have conversations with other aAmws they will tell you that they see the Egyptians and the Imazighen of North Kmt as "Abeed" or slave, especially in the Gulf States. They don't consider them to be real aAmws because they are not. They are generally a very mixed population.

President Nasser

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256420 wrote: No of course not. The crakkkers in South Kmt, Namibia, Northern Algeria etc. Need to be removed. I am just stating that it is inaccurate to label all Egyptians as white or eureurasian when they clearly have Kmtyw roots. The Egyptians of Southern Egypt are mostly dark skinned. If you go to Egypt you will see for yourself.

Now most Egyptians in Northern Egypt of course do not necessarily identify with their Kmtyw heritage, however if you have conversations with other aAmws they will tell you that they see the Egyptians and the Imazighen of North Kmt as "Abeed" or slave, especially in the Gulf States. They don't consider them to be real aAmws because they are not. They are generally a very mixed population.

President Nasser

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Interesting

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All images of Fathia Rizk (Nkrumah) show her to be white. She is a white aAmw. We considering aAmws with 12% Kmtyw blood from 10 generations ago Kmtyw?

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As for Gamal Nasser, I would consider him a white aAmw also. If not white, at least aAmw but I've known mexicans that are as dark as me too...

Anyway about that list of Kmtyw leaders and their Kmtyw wives... I would do it myself but my knowledge of leaders is a little shakey.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/c465057186c1ef600d16baa72cf2d8d1.jpg) our ancestors were pretty clear.

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QuoteChance;256424 wrote: Anyway about that list of Kmtyw leaders and their Kmtyw wives... I would do it myself but my knowledge of leaders is a little shakey.

I saw a video where the widow of Thomas Sankara was honored.

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Quotekevlew;256421 wrote: Interesting

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Fathia and this man are not the same complexion, not even close. That woman was as white as the whitest aAmw, and was seen as such.

Besides, Nkrumah, with all his "wokeness" had a thing for Beckies.
Just look at his body language around Queen Elizabeth.

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QuoteChance;256424 wrote: Anyway about that list of Kmtyw leaders and their Kmtyw wives... I would do it myself but my knowledge of leaders is a little shakey.

I am not trying to cape for Nkrumah or his light skinned wife. I really don't care that much about it because his policies against imperialism were more important. Just look at all of the sellout Kmtyw leaders with wives as dark as midnight....

The point is that neither she or Nasser were white. Now we can invent terms like white aAmw, sub Caucasoid crakkkasoid all we want. I have even met some purist and extremists who say that all Ethiopians are Eureurasian whites(lmao). But these terms will not change reality and they are ultimately based upon social constructs that we invent.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256420 wrote: No of course not. The crakkkers in South Kmt, Namibia, Northern Algeria etc. Need to be removed. I am just stating that it is inaccurate to label all Egyptians as white or eureurasian when they clearly have Kmtyw roots. The Egyptians of Southern Egypt are mostly dark skinned. If you go to Egypt you will see for yourself.

Now most Egyptians in Northern Egypt of course do not necessarily identify with their Kmtyw heritage, however if you have conversations with other aAmws they will tell you that they see the Egyptians and the Imazighen of North Kmt as "Abeed" or slave, especially in the Gulf States. They don't consider them to be real aAmws because they are not. They are generally a very mixed population.

President Nasser

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Fathia and this man are not the same complexion, not even close. That woman was as white as the whitest aAmw, and was seen as such.

Besides, Nkrumah, with all his "wokeness" had a thing for Beckies.
Just look at his body language around Queen Elizabeth.

QuoteChance;256424 wrote: Anyway about that list of Kmtyw leaders and their Kmtyw wives... I would do it myself but my knowledge of leaders is a little shakey.

Most Pan Kmtywist leadera had dark skinned Black wives. The leaders that you see in this post do not represent the majority.

Quotekevlew;256425 wrote: (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/c465057186c1ef600d16baa72cf2d8d1.jpg) our ancestors were pretty clear.

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This diagram has been proven false by many scholars like Dr. Manu Anpim. The images were lightened up.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256432 wrote: This diagram has been proven false by many scholars like Dr. Manu Anpim. The images were lightened up.

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Did they read what the ancestors said about the images? In it they make the clear distinctions.

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Quotekevlew;256433 wrote: Did they read what the ancestors said about the images? In it they make the clear distinctions.

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The image itself is a rendering of the original which is still visible to go see. But what is more important is the mdw ntr describing the pictures. I was looking for the original.

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Quotekevlew;256433 wrote: Did they read what the ancestors said about the images? In it they make the clear distinctions.

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Yes they do but the images shown are lightened up like many other images in ancient Kemet.

Quotekevlew;256433 wrote: Did they read what the ancestors said about the images? In it they make the clear distinctions.

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Just look at the Libyans (tehenu and Temehu) of the 22nd and 23rd dynasty. They were absolutely not white. They were as black as the Nubians. Dr. John Henry Clarke even stated that the Libyan Dynasties of Kemet were Black.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256435 wrote: Yes they do but the images shown are lightened up like many other images in ancient Kemet.

I am curios to how they translated the mdw ntr.  Do you have that link handy to share?

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As for Gamal Nasser, I would consider him a white aAmw also. If not white, at least aAmw but I've known mexicans that are as dark as me too...

aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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This High priest of the "Libyan" tribe of  Meshwesh discovered in royal Egyptian tomb of the Libyan Pharaoh Psusennes is reminiscent of Fulani men

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256432 wrote: This diagram has been proven false by many scholars like Dr. Manu Anpim. The images were lightened up.

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Here is what Manu Ampim says about the rendering :

THE KURT SETHE - RICHARD LEPSIUS VERSION
Richard Lepsius conducted research in Egypt from 1842-1845 and his work was originally published in 12 volumes from 1849-1856. However, the KV 11 "Table of Nations" scene and other materials were not published until the later 1913 supplemental edition, which was compiled by Edward Naville and Ludwig Borchardt, and edited by Kurt Sethe.

The so-called 1913 Sethe/Lepsius version is a condensed reproduction of the original tomb scene. Sethe/Lepsius simply condensed the 4 images for each of the four groups to 1 representative for each of the four groups (i.e. the 16 images were reduced to 4 images). Apparently, this was done because all 4 of the images for each group are identical, and thus they simply omitted the redundant images. The texts were also condensed from their original horizontal position in front of each of the 4 images per group to a single vertical column in front of 1 group representative.

Nevertheless, this condensed Sethe/Lepsius reproduction version of the "Table of Nations" is ACCURATE in both the representation of the images and the positioning of the texts:

http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm (http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm)

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QuoteEfuany;256438 wrote: aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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The aAmw nationalism alliance was political, kind of like how the aAmws of North Sudan are doing today.

Now of course their are those who will say that the aAmws of North Sudan are not Kmtyw but......

QuoteEfuany;256438 wrote: aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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Quotekevlew;256440 wrote: Here is what Manu Ampim says about the rendering :

THE KURT SETHE - RICHARD LEPSIUS VERSION
Richard Lepsius conducted research in Egypt from 1842-1845 and his work was originally published in 12 volumes from 1849-1856. However, the KV 11 "Table of Nations" scene and other materials were not published until the later 1913 supplemental edition, which was compiled by Edward Naville and Ludwig Borchardt, and edited by Kurt Sethe.

The so-called 1913 Sethe/Lepsius version is a condensed reproduction of the original tomb scene. Sethe/Lepsius simply condensed the 4 images for each of the four groups to 1 representative for each of the four groups (i.e. the 16 images were reduced to 4 images). Apparently, this was done because all 4 of the images for each group are identical, and thus they simply omitted the redundant images. The texts were also condensed from their original horizontal position in front of each of the 4 images per group to a single vertical column in front of 1 group representative.

Nevertheless, this condensed Sethe/Lepsius reproduction version of the "Table of Nations" is ACCURATE in both the representation of the images and the positioning of the texts:

http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm (http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm)

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Manu Ampim who I know states that the images are ACCURATE ....emphasis his.

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Quotekevlew;256442 wrote: Manu Ampim who I know states that the images are ACCURATE ....emphasis his.

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Sorry. That was my mistake. I was incorrect in quoting him. I am thinking of another scholar. I will post the article when I find it.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256441 wrote: The aAmw nationalism alliance was political, kind of like how the aAmws of North Sudan are doing today.

Now of course their are those who will say that the aAmws of North Sudan are not Kmtyw but......

I am aware that there are people in Egypt who are phenotypically black, Nkrumah's wife wasn't one of them.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256443 wrote: Sorry. That was my mistake. I was incorrect in quoting him. I am thinking of another scholar. I will post the article when I find it.

This is a great discussion...

The description given in the pic was given by Chiek Anta Diop. The so called Egyptologist tried to discredit his work and attempted to usurp Kmtyw accomplishments by not acknowledging the description.  He smashed them in 1974 in Cairo.

Manu is a staunch primary evidence scholar. To the point of this thread our ancestors wrote on the walls in several tombs who they were and made distinguishing comments about the invaders whose descendants are still there.

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QuoteEfuany;256444 wrote: I am aware that there are people in Egypt who are phenotypically black, Nkrumah's wife wasn't one of them.

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These people are from North Sudan not Egypt and they identify as aAmws.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256436 wrote: Just look at the Libyans (tehenu and Temehu) of the 22nd and 23rd dynasty. They were absolutely not white. They were as black as the Nubians. Dr. John Henry Clarke even stated that the Libyan Dynasties of Kemet were Black.

Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/ea0684e63bd28cb1cf4b7312157f9f14.jpg)

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Quotekevlew;256448 wrote: Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/ea0684e63bd28cb1cf4b7312157f9f14.jpg)

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Enemies who allied with other eureurasians...

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This "anything with black is black" mentality will kill us. It's like when Americans say "bi-racial black" or "multiracial black"? What in the name of Heru is that supposed to mean? If I have to wonder what you are, you are not black.

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Quotekevlew;256449 wrote: Enemies who allied with other eureurasians...

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The bulk of the inscription deals with Merneptah's victory over the Libyans, but the last 3 of the 28 lines shift to Canaan:[12]

The princes are prostrate, saying, "Peace!"
Not one is raising his head among the Nine Bows.
Now that Tehenu (Libya) has come to ruin,
Hatti is pacified;
The Canaan has been plundered into every sort of woe:
Ashkelon has been overcome;
Gezer has been captured;
Yano'am is made non-existent.
Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;
Hurru is become a widow because of Egypt.

The "nine bows" is a term the Egyptians used to refer to their enemies - the actual enemies varied according to time and circumstance.[13] Hatti and Hurru are Syro-Palestine, Canaan and Israel are smaller units, and Ashkelon, Gezer and Yanoam are cities within the region; according to the stele, all these entities fell under the rule of the Egyptian empire at that time.[14]

Enemies then....enemies now....

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Quotekevlew;256448 wrote: Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171117/ea0684e63bd28cb1cf4b7312157f9f14.jpg)

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Yes. They saw the Libyans as their enemies just like they did the Nubians for the majority of the history of Kemet. But that description a lone does not give us any details about their ethnography.

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Quotekevlew;256449 wrote: Enemies who allied with other eureurasians...

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John Henry Clarke described the rivalry  between the Libyans and the Egyptians and the Nubians and the Egyptians as a family dispute.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256429 wrote: I am not trying to cape for Nkrumah or his light skinned wife. I really don't care that much about it because his policies against imperialism were more important. Just look at all of the sellout Kmtyw leaders with wives as dark as midnight....

The point is that neither she or Nasser were white. Now we can invent terms like white aAmw, sub Caucasoid crakkkasoid all we want. I have even met some purist and extremists who say that all Ethiopians are Eureurasian whites(lmao). But these terms will not change reality and they are ultimately based upon social constructs that we invent.

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I know you mean no harm brother. Not trying to attack you. I just wanted to share my opinion on the issue.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256452 wrote: Yes. They saw the Libyans as their enemies just like they did the Nubians for the majority of the history of Kemet. But that description a lone does not give us any details about their ethnography.

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I posted this to go with the nations depiction so that we get s sense of what the people they described were depicted as by them in their own words.

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Quotekevlew;256427 wrote: I saw a video where the widow of Thomas Sankara was honored.

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Meda ase. Imma check it out.

QuoteEfuany;256450 wrote: This "anything with black is black" mentality will kill us. It's like when Americans say "bi-racial black" or "multiracial black"? What in the name of Heru is that supposed to mean? If I have to wonder what you are, you are not black.

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In Tanzania and Kenya they have this same discussion about Albinos. Many Albinos there are persecuted and killed by those who do not see them as Black.

Personally I hate the debate about whether or not biracial and multiracial people are black. It is annoying to me because for one blackness is a social construct and two the same people who are constantly debating about the position of biracials do absolutely nothing and say nothing to the coons and bedwenches that sleep with crackers and create these people in the first place. If we are so hell bent on Biracials not being black, then those who sleep with crakkkers should get the death penalty or the social equivalent of that in banishment and dissassociation.

Also I find it fascinating how the same people who say that Biracials and Multiracials are not black will willingly accept coons and race traitors like Clarence Thomas, Mbutu, Allen West, and Jesse Lee Peterson as black even though they do everything to promote and facilitate white supremacy. They might as well be classified as crakkkers in black skin but because they are dark they get to be accepted as Black by the majority of us.

Do I trust biracial and multiracial people?? the majority of the time, absolutely not, however I know that most full black people with black parents have the same sickness and love for crakkkers that Biracial do. It is something that is so pervasive. The point is that we have to establish consistency.

If a biracial person is not black, then none of their children are black even if they have them with a black person, no exceptions. Also if biracials aren't black then the coons and bedwenches that created them are not Black. Race traitors that work with crakkkers and facilitate the objectives of these disgusting diseased beast should also not be classified as Black.

Ultimately the reason that I hate these types of conversations is due to the lack of consistency. People go one step in one direction than allow all types of exceptions. For me this is not and can never be true liberation.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256458 wrote: In Tanzania and Kenya they have this same discussion about Albinos. Many Albinos there are persecuted and killed by those who do not see them as Black.

Personally I hate the debate about whether or not biracial and multiracial people are black. It is annoying to me because for one blackness is a social construct and two the same people who are constantly debating about the position of biracials do absolutely nothing and say nothing to the coons and bedwenches that sleep with crackers and create these people in the first place. If we are so hell bent on Biracials not being black, them those who sleep with crackers should get the death penalty or the social equivalent of that in banishment and dissassociation.

Also I find it fascinating how the same people who say that Biracials and Multiracials are not black will willingly accept coons and race traitors like Clarence Thomas, Mbutu, Allen West, and Jesse Lee Peterson as black even though they do everything to promote and facilitate white supremacy. They might as well be classified as crakkkers in black skin but because they are dark they get to be accepted as Black by the majority of us.

Do I trust biracial and multiracial people?? the majority of the time, absolutely not, however I know that most full black people with black parents have the same sickness and love for crakkkers that Biracial do. It is something that is so pervasive. The point is that we have to establish conaistency.

If a biracial person is not black, them none of their children are black even if they have them with a black person, no acceptions. Also if biracials aren't blacl then the coons and bedwenches that created them are not Black. Race traitors that work with crakkkers and facilitate the objectives of these disgusting diseased beast should also not be classified as Black.

Ultimately the reason that I hate these types of conversations is due to the lack of consistency. People go one step in one direction than allow all types of exceptions. For me this is not and can never be true liberation.

This discussion has been had here as well.

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QuoteChance;256454 wrote: I know you mean no harm brother. Not trying to attack you. I just wanted to share my opinion on the issue.

absolutely. I meant no harm in my response either. All respect

Quotecuitocuanavale;256452 wrote: Yes. They saw the Libyans as their enemies just like they did the Nubians for the majority of the history of Kemet. But that description a lone does not give us any details about their ethnography.

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Can you cite where this is shown? Where it is mentioned that they were called enemies?  Appreciate it.  I find it strange because Kemet was made up of various Nubian groups.

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Quotekevlew;256461 wrote: Can you cite where this is shown? Where it is mentioned that they were called enemies?  Appreciate it.  I find it strange because Kemet was made up of various Nubian groups.

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Here is an excerpt from the Biography of Weni. It is from around the 6th dynasty and it mentions who the enemies were at that time and the Nubians of various sections seem to be in alliance as far back as this time period.

When his majesty took action against the eurasiatic Sand-dwellers, his majesty made an army of many tens of thounited snakesnds from all of Upper Egypt: from Yebu in the south to Medenyt in the north; from Lower Egypt: from all of the Two-Sides-of-the-House and from Sedjer and Khen-sedjru; and from Irtjet-Nubians, MedjaNubians, Yam-Nubians, Wawat-Nubians, Kaau-Nubians; and from Tjemeh-land.

His majesty sent me at the head of this army, there being counts, royal seal-bearers, sole companions of the palace, chieftains and mayors of towns of Upper and Lower Egypt, companions, scout-leaders, chief priests of Upper and Lower Egypt, and chief district officials at the head of the troops of Upper and Lower Egypt, from the villages and towns that they governed and from the Nubians of those foreign lands. I was the one who commanded them-while my rank was that of overseer of [royal tenants]-because of my rectitude, so that no one attacked his fellow, so that no one seized a loaf or sandals from a traveller, so that no one took a cloth from any town, so that no one took a goat from anyone.

http://www.loyno.edu/~gerlich/161.weni.html (http://www.loyno.edu/~gerlich/161.weni.html)

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Quotekevlew;256462 wrote: Here is an excerpt from the Biography of Weni. It is from around the 6th dynasty and it mentions who the enemies were at that time and the Nubians of various sections seem to be in alliance as far back as this time period.

When his majesty took action against the eurasiatic Sand-dwellers, his majesty made an army of many tens of thounited snakesnds from all of Upper Egypt: from Yebu in the south to Medenyt in the north; from Lower Egypt: from all of the Two-Sides-of-the-House and from Sedjer and Khen-sedjru; and from Irtjet-Nubians, MedjaNubians, Yam-Nubians, Wawat-Nubians, Kaau-Nubians; and from Tjemeh-land.

His majesty sent me at the head of this army, there being counts, royal seal-bearers, sole companions of the palace, chieftains and mayors of towns of Upper and Lower Egypt, companions, scout-leaders, chief priests of Upper and Lower Egypt, and chief district officials at the head of the troops of Upper and Lower Egypt, from the villages and towns that they governed and from the Nubians of those foreign lands. I was the one who commanded them-while my rank was that of overseer of [royal tenants]-because of my rectitude, so that no one attacked his fellow, so that no one seized a loaf or sandals from a traveller, so that no one took a cloth from any town, so that no one took a goat from anyone.

http://www.loyno.edu/~gerlich/161.weni.html (http://www.loyno.edu/~gerlich/161.weni.html)

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At the least we knew we were black and who our enemies were and for that we were in alliance.

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There are two conditions that need to be fulfilled for me to consider one as Kmtyw. 1. They must have AT LEAST one Kmtyw parent. 2. They MUST claim to be Kmtyw. No biracial or anything else. It may not be fair but so what?
The most important thing in my Kmtyw mind is what will secure the future of my children and my community. It's not beneficial to us as Kmtyws to co-opt and waste effort and resources because it hurts feelings. Whether social constructs or whatever, I'm only helping those who are without a doubt Black. If you're supposed to be my family and you understand the challenges that I'm facing then you should understand why it has to be like this. I'm not going to sacrifice the struggle of the generations before me and the generations to come after me so that I can be friends with people who ain't even a reflection of me.

Quotecuitocuanavale;256458 wrote: In Tanzania and Kenya they have this same discussion about Albinos. Many Albinos there are persecuted and killed by those who do not see them as Black.

Personally I hate the debate about whether or not biracial and multiracial people are black. It is annoying to me because for one blackness is a social construct and two the same people who are constantly debating about the position of biracials do absolutely nothing and say nothing to the coons and bedwenches that sleep with crackers and create these people in the first place. If we are so hell bent on Biracials not being black, then those who sleep with crakkkers should get the death penalty or the social equivalent of that in banishment and dissassociation.

Also I find it fascinating how the same people who say that Biracials and Multiracials are not black will willingly accept coons and race traitors like Clarence Thomas, Mbutu, Allen West, and Jesse Lee Peterson as black even though they do everything to promote and facilitate white supremacy. They might as well be classified as crakkkers in black skin but because they are dark they get to be accepted as Black by the majority of us.

Do I trust biracial and multiracial people?? the majority of the time, absolutely not, however I know that most full black people with black parents have the same sickness and love for crakkkers that Biracial do. It is something that is so pervasive. The point is that we have to establish consistency.

If a biracial person is not black, then none of their children are black even if they have them with a black person, no exceptions. Also if biracials aren't black then the coons and bedwenches that created them are not Black. Race traitors that work with crakkkers and facilitate the objectives of these disgusting diseased beast should also not be classified as Black.

Ultimately the reason that I hate these types of conversations is due to the lack of consistency. People go one step in one direction than allow all types of exceptions. For me this is not and can never be true liberation.

I understand your frustration. I'm also frustrated.  I'm frustrated with the lack of exclusivity, the need to include  everyone, the dilution of our bloodlines, the colourism, the fact that black is the dumping ground for for everyone's rejects, the constant running away from ourselves and anything that resembles us, the lack of value we place on the darkest black, the need to have a "united colours of benetton" black race, the "black comes in all shades" including Beckie rhetoric. The fact that we are not comfortable unless there is white amongst us, that we need white presence to feel validated. I could go on and on, but what I'm most frustrated about is the constant assault on the physche of little black girls and black women.  

The healing that needs to happen will not happen if we insist on being the race of all peoples.

Nkrumah with all his greatness was still very flawed, no less mentally enslaved than a lot of us.

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Quotekevlew;256461 wrote: Can you cite where this is shown? Where it is mentioned that they were called enemies?  Appreciate it.  I find it strange because Kemet was made up of various Nubian groups.

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It was more about Nationality than race.

Dr. Mario Betty discusses it in full context in this lecture that he gave a while back on the term xsy. The egyptians frequently used this word to classify their political enemies (Libyans Nubians western eurasians etc.) however they also used the word to classify themselves in political disputes and civil wars.
https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk (https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk)

Quotecuitocuanavale;256467 wrote: It was more about Nationality than race.

Dr. Mario Betty discusses it in full context in this lecture that he gave a while back on the term xsy. The egyptians frequently used this word to classify their political enemies (Libyans Nubians western eurasians etc.) however they also used the word to classify themselves in political disputes and civil wars.
https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk (https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk)

The two are not mutually exclusive. The people called their nation land of Black people, Kmt and they called themselves Kmtiw, Black people. Any time you get caught up saying Egyptians, it facilitates you getting lost in meaninglessness.

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QuoteObadele Kambon;256535 wrote: The two are not mutually exclusive. The people called their nation land of Black people, Kmt and they called themselves Kmtiw, Black people. Any time you get caught up saying Egyptians, it facilitates you getting lost in meaninglessness.

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From my research the name that the people of Kemet called themselves was Remetch or citizens of Kemet and they differentiated themselves from the Nubians even though they came from the same place in Southeast Kmt at the beginning of the Hapi River. Kemtiu was also used and it generally means the exact same thing "citizens of Kemet".

I get the point about Egypt. I generally don't use that word unless I am speaking about the modern population in the nation of Egypt. But even today there is a wide variety of debate about whether Kemet was actually commonly used by the indigenous population and what period of time that it was used in.

Also many scholars debate whether or not kemet actually means black city or black soil due to the united snakesge of the determinative glyph that defines Kemet.

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There is a constant debate about the utility and united snakesge of the last wheel determinative and whether or not it refers to a municipality or the soil.

QuoteObadele Kambon;256535 wrote: The two are not mutually exclusive. The people called their nation land of Black people, Kmt and they called themselves Kmtiw, Black people. Any time you get caught up saying Egyptians, it facilitates you getting lost in meaninglessness.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256541 wrote: From my research the name that the people of Kemet called themselves was Remetch or citizens of Kemet and they differentiated themselves from the Nubians even though they came from the same place in Southeast Kmt at the beginning of the Hapi River. Kemtiu was also used and it generally means the exact same thing "citizens of Kemet".

I get the point about Egypt. I generally don't use that word unless I am speaking about the modern population in the nation of Egypt. But even today there is a wide variety of debate about whether Kemet was actually commonly used by the indigenous population and what period of time that it was used in.

Also many scholars debate whether or not kemet actually means black city or black soil due to the united snakesge of the determinative glyph that defines Kemet.

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There is a constant debate about the utility and united snakesge of the last wheel determinative and whether or not it refers to a municipality or the soil.

The Black people said that Khnum made them out of that Black soil on his potters wheel. The debate is a non-debate, there are just people who know what they are talking about because they can read the sources and those who don't know because they can't and use their ignorance to pimp others who don't know an old perfective from a determinative. Kmtiw means Black people, Kmt means land of Black people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-N2Iy2F3zw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-N2Iy2F3zw)

QuoteObadele Kambon;256542 wrote: The Black people said that Khnum made them out of that Black soil on his potters wheel. The debate is a non-debate, there are just people who know what they are talking about because they can read the sources and those who don't know because they can't and use their ignorance to pimp others who don't know an old perfective from a determinative. Kmtiw means Black people, Kmt means land of Black people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-N2Iy2F3zw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-N2Iy2F3zw)

Thanks for the presentation. I'm watching now.

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You're welcome. Enjoy! Book coming soon.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256467 wrote: It was more about Nationality than race.

Dr. Mario Betty discusses it in full context in this lecture that he gave a while back on the term xsy. The egyptians frequently used this word to classify their political enemies (Libyans Nubians western eurasians etc.) however they also used the word to classify themselves in political disputes and civil wars.
https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk (https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk)

The main point made in this lecture was the evolution of the term and how egyptologists tried to mislead by mistranslation to divide the peopling against what primary sources show. Dr Beaty masterfully debunked this using sources. I hadn't viewed this in a while.  Thanks for posting.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256467 wrote: It was more about Nationality than race.

Dr. Mario Betty discusses it in full context in this lecture that he gave a while back on the term xsy. The egyptians frequently used this word to classify their political enemies (Libyans Nubians western eurasians etc.) however they also used the word to classify themselves in political disputes and civil wars.
https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk (https://youtu.be/I6KKsbNxrfk)

Could make for a blackpowerful lecture here on this topic

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Quotekevlew;256555 wrote: The main point made in this lecture was the evolution of the term and how egyptologists tried to mislead by mistranslation to divide the peopling against what primary sources show. Dr Beaty masterfully debunked this using sources. I hadn't viewed this in a while.  Thanks for posting.

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Yes! The neanderthal egyptologists try to make it like a racial epithet, like an ancient n-word. Yet another diversion, but good that we have folks deployed to address it.

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Quotekevlew;256556 wrote: Could make for a blackpowerful lecture here on this topic

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I'm down if he's down. Let's make it the first one on the migrated site.

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Quotecuitocuanavale;256541 wrote: From my research the name that the people of Kemet called themselves was Remetch or citizens of Kemet and they differentiated themselves from the Nubians even though they came from the same place in Southeast Kmt at the beginning of the Hapi River. Kemtiu was also used and it generally means the exact same thing "citizens of Kemet".

I get the point about Egypt. I generally don't use that word unless I am speaking about the modern population in the nation of Egypt. But even today there is a wide variety of debate about whether Kemet was actually commonly used by the indigenous population and what period of time that it was used in.

Also many scholars debate whether or not kemet actually means black city or black soil due to the united snakesge of the determinative glyph that defines Kemet.

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There is a constant debate about the utility and united snakesge of the last wheel determinative and whether or not it refers to a municipality or the soil.

In 100 years Chocolate City will mean white chocolate...

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Quotekevlew;256559 wrote: In 100 years Chocolate City will mean white chocolate...

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LOL, if the neanderthals have anything to say about it.

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QuoteEfuany;256450 wrote: This "anything with black is black" mentality will kill us. It's like when Americans say "bi-racial black" or "multiracial black"? What in the name of Heru is that supposed to mean? If I have to wonder what you are, you are not black.

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https://youtu.be/xmu_F92nB4U (https://youtu.be/xmu_F92nB4U)

Baba Chinweizu provides some clarity on the "Kmtywness" of aAmws. Especially from around 11:00.

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QuoteObadele Kambon;28918 wrote:
On Negrophobia:
Psychoneurotic Obstacles to Black Autonomy
(or Why I just love Michael Jackson)

by Chinweizu
  Negrophobia, the fear and dislike of blacks, is a great disease. It has killed more blacks in the last five hundred years than all other diseases combined: more than malaria, more than epidemics and plagues of all sorts, In the coming years, it could kill far more than AIDS. It is a psychological disease, a disease of the mind, which harvests dead black bodies every day.

The blacks who died through slavery were killed by negrophobia. The blacks who died all over the globe from white colonial aggression were killed by negrophobia. The blacks who died in our liberation struggles - Bookman, Toussaint and Dessalines with all their soldiers in Haiti; the Mau Mau warriors in Kenya; the liberation fighters in Angola, Mozambique, Guinea-Bissau, Zimbabwe, Namibia, South Kmt, Sudan and elsewhere — were all killed by negrophobia.

The blacks dying from the structures and policies of neocolonialism are dying from negrophobia. The blacks killed by AIDS, a disease manufactured by whites in the biological warfare labs of the united snakes and deliberately introduced into central Kmt and Haiti to kill off blacks, are dying of negrophobia.

Ah, Negrophobia, I didn't know that hate could kill so many!

Negrophobia is a psychoneurosis, a mental disorder. So too is blancophilia, its twin.. If someone hates everything black, including the black butterfly, including the most fertile black soil, isn't he mentally disturbed? If someone loves everything white, including white trash, including white arsenic, isn't he mentally disturbed? Negrophobia and blancophilia form a syndrome, a characteristic set of psychoneurotic passions that occur together.

The negrophobia syndrome is characterised by melanotropism. A magnetic movement away from or toward different intensities of melanin, the skin pigment. Blancophilia induces a reflex movement toward things white, even toward white ugliness. The stimulus object is white skin, any skin that is low in melanin.

Negrophobia, for its part, induces a reflex movement away from things black, even from black beauty. The stimulus object is black skin, any skin blessed with melanin in high dosage.

Negrophobia and blancophilia are, of course, conditioned responses to white power and black powerlessness. In a sad case of stimulus substitution, the responses to superior power have become transferred to white skin, and those to powerlessness have become transferred to black skin. The negrophobia syndrome is a chronic disease with the white race, a disease born of pride of power. It is a disease with which they have infected the whole world, including the black race, giving rise to negro negrophobia, the disease of black self-hate.

Negro negrophobia is a most absurd disease. Can you imagine some black running to escape his blackness? To escape from himself? His obsession with fleeing from himself proves he is unfit to live. His running to embrace his white enemy proves he is a suicide. The entire affair shows he is mad. Some call it alienation, a mental disorder. Yet some black sirens now sing in praise of alienation, beckoning all blacks to acquire the disease.

What are the symptoms of negro negrophobia? Negro negrophobia makes black women bleach, till some proudly sport yellow monkey faces and ebony-black thighs. (or 'Fanta Orange face and Coca-cola legs' as some call it). It makes black parents prefer their lighter skinned children to the darker skinned. It makes blacks who marry white or mulatto think they are marrying up and improving the race. It makes a pitch-black Sudanese proclaim himself aAmw, on account of just one white aAmw ancestor ten generations back; it makes him count as nothing, indeed as a blemish, all his 1,023 black ancestors in that generation, and all the millions before and since.

Negro negrophobia makes Kmtyw-Americans, and now black South Kmtyws too, believe that integrating white neigbourhoods is social advancement. It makes blacks desperate to integrate white schools, white churches, white communities, white ideologies, white movements and white organizations. Some would even gladly die to integrate the Ku Klux Klan.

Negro Negrophobia makes blacks defer to whites. It makes bright black boys, the thinkers of the race, obey the IMF, the World Bank, GATT and the UN, even when they know that the orders from such outfits are aimed to destroy their own people. It makes black intellectuals swallow and spout any silly idea, provided it is put forth by some guru of the white world, like Marx, like Jesus, like Mohammed.

Negro negrophobia makes blacks accept leaders of thought and of action that are chosen for them by whites. It makes blacks revere any third class mind, any tinpot potentate, that whites anoint to confuse and mislead them. But for negro negrophobia, we would automatically reject any leader chosen for us by our historic enemies. But for negro negrophobia, we would thoroughly suspect the loyalty to the black race of any black Rhodes Scholar, of any black Nobel laureate, of any black Faisal laureate, of any black Lenin laureate, of any black knight or peer of England , of any black elect of the French Academy . He would have to work extra hard to convince us that he is not an agent sent to help hasten our ruin.

Believing the blancophile dogma that white is right, that white is quick-witted, that white is beauty and virtue and salvation; believing the negrophobe dogma that black is wrong, that black is dumb, that black is ugliness and sin and damnation, the negrophobic black does not feel comfortable in a blacks-only group. Blacks-only associations give him claustrophobia; he must throw open the doors to let in some white skin to boss or spy on him; only then can he relax; only then can he feel that all is well with his world. Negro negrophobia is, thus, a disease which drives blacks to crave racial integration and to espouse continentalist Pan-Kmtywism.

In multi-racial societies, it drives the black elites to flee to white suburbs. In the name of racial equality, they decapitate their own black communities, rob the ghetto of black leadership, and abandon it to confusion and predatory gangs, In the name of black freedom they flee from the black world. Similarly, in international relations, pulled by the call of the white, blacks are eager to join a British Commonwealth . They are desperate to join a French Community. They sell their sanity to join a Russian Collective. And an aAmw empire? They disown their black inheritance to get into its latrine! They will pay any price, suffer any humiliation, to join any club formed by whites. But a black community, or commonwealth, or league? They will not only not join, they will oppose its being formed at all! The idea of blacks getting together, all by themselves, disorganizes their being. In their blancophilia they are self-made orphans desperately seeking white foster homes. For all their outcry on behalf of the black community, all they want is to disappear into the whiteness of the white world, whether aAmw or eureurasiaan. They want to disappear by any means possible or available — physically, mentally, emotionally.
In such ways, negro negrophobia has affected Pan-Kmtywism, affected Negritude, affected even the great leaders of these Black Redemption Movements. Senghor's Francophilia weakened his Negritude; made him ecstatic to join the "Universal Civilization" by becoming an elect of the French Academy .

Nkrumah (http://www.kmtwithin.com/nkrumah/nkrumah.htm)'s aAmwophilia subverted the Garveyism of his Black Star symbol; it truncated his Pan-Negro Pan-Kmtywism into a continentalist Pan-Kmtywism which would exclude Garvey (http://www.kmtwithin.com/garvey/garvey.htm) from membership of its organizations, and which distorted Pan-Kmtywism into an aAmw and Black Kmtyw tango.

With Du Bois (http://www.kmtwithin.com/dubois/dubois.htm), when the racial integrationism of his NAACP triumphed, it wrecked the black community in the united snakes ; it bore the bitter fruit of black ghettos whose absentee black leaders squat in white suburbia, squawking as hostages to white power.

Cheikh Anta Diop (http://www.kmtwithin.com/diop/diop.htm)'s Marxism, with its dedication to the primacy of multi-racial class solidarity, made him most unenthusiastic about a sub-Sahara Federation of Black Kmt. He would accept it only as a very last resort, only if the aAmw invader-settlers doggedly excluded themselves.

Mandela (http://www.kmtwithin.com/mandela/nelson_mandela.htm)'s liberalism, with its dedication to the primacy of multi-racialism, is allset to subvert the cardinal goal of returning to the black aborigines of South Kmt all the land stolen from them by the white invader-settlers.

Senghor, Nkrumah, Du Bois, Cheikh Anta Diop and Mandela are proof that not even the best  among us are immune from the negrophobia syndrome. Of the great black redeemers of the 20th century, only Garvey escaped the syndrome, principally because he was unequivocal and uncompromising on black solidarity. Significantly, he did not call his movement Pan-Kmtywism, with all the equivocation on race that is harboured by that term; he called it the United Negro Improvement Association, a name which unequivocally implies a redemption movement of blacks, by blacks, for blacks.

To call yourself a leader of blacks, one leading them to liberation from the white world, and yet run off to integrate white suburbia— isn't that absurd? It can only mean that your Black Consciousness is shallow, or even opportunistic; that hiding under your black mask is a blancophile heart. To call yourself a leader of blacks, one leading them out of the prison cell of white power, and yet insist on bringing whites into every organization for blacks — isn't that folly of the first order? Those blacks who espouse continentalist Pan-Kmtywism, are they not like those Trojans who carried the Greek wooden horse into their own citadel, and hastened their people's destruction?

If you are such a black leader or intellectual, take a look at Michael Jackson and see the incarnation of your spirit, see your mind made flesh. Michael Jackson has most publicly done what black negrophobiacs secretly dream of doing: act out George Schuyler's great satire Black No More! Michael Jackson is the supreme, public example of negro negrophobia, which is why he is such a valuable negative example, which is why I just love Michael Jackson. Every racially integrating black, every continentalist Pan-Kmtywist black, is Michael Jackson minus opportunity. They are the social and political counterparts of Wacko Jacko, as the white press dubbed him. The only difference is that he has carried his negro negrophobia to its logical, physical conclusion — turn himself into a fake white man! Because the others cannot afford the cash or courage for the skin and bone surgery, they settle for the next best thing: they disappear into white communities, or integrate into white ideologies and white movements. Presumably, from seeing so many white faces around them at all times, they will lose sight of the fact that they themselves are black.

After being created and entrenched by five centuries of white power, Negro negrophobia has, alas, become a character neurosis. From one generation to another, black parents pass on to their children the neurotic character structures which foster negrophobic attitudes and behaviour. The global mechanisms of white power (religion, media, school, advertising, propaganda) then reinforce the neurosis.
  Blacks, alas, cannot take control of the Black World until they are cured of this neurotic syndrome. Until they get rid of this neurotic plague, any white boy or girl or child can seize control of their affairs by flashing a bit of white skin. Proof? All you need do is introduce a white face among negrophobic blacks and they become disorganised, they become disoriented. Just put one ugly blondie among them, and their eyes will stray and their minds will wander from the doughnut before them and focus on the white hole. Some will be obsessed with desire for whitey; some will be obsessed with hate for whitey; either way, they lose touch with basic reality and ignore what they must do to keep control of their lives, their situation, their environment.And at that point, any white waif can take them over.

What then is the cure? That is for our medical and social scientists to investigate. But from the sidelines, let me observe that it may require psychotherapy, both individual and group therapy. It may require cultural therapy, with basic retraining to break the habits of the negrophobic syndrome and inculcate non-negrophobic habits of thought and valuation. It would be the job of homes, schools, media, and social organisations to bring up new generations untainted with Negrophobia and blancophilia. It may require, above all, environmental therapy of a political sort, through the emergence of at least one powerful black nation that would destroy the five-century -old correlation of white skin with power and black skin with powerlessness. That is probably the strategic cure for the syndrome.

My guess is that until the power therapy for this power neurosis is accomplished, all other therapies would be only partially effective. Whatever the case, until the race cures itself of negrophobia, it has no future. Which is why getting rid of Negro negrophobia is perhaps the cardinal task of internal reparation.

Copyright 1994 by Chinweizu
A Sundoor Publication, P. 0. Box 988 , Festac Town , Lagos , Nigeria
All rights reserved.
Chinweizu 2005

I thought this Chinweizu article should be reposted here as a reminder, not sure how to link it on the AK app.

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An extra nail in the coffin as to why we need to learn Kmtyw languages so we are not confused and we can interpret the words of our ancestors for ourselves. We can no longer equate all words or terms in english (or another non-Kmtyw language) to an idea in an Kmtyw one. Learning Kmtyw languages is one way to re-Kmtywize and stop thinking like a eureurasian. Speaking (therefore thinking) in eureurasian languages will only limit you in being Kmtyw in all aspects. I am learning this as I study Akan Twi, Yoruba, MDW NTR and some Pulaar.

QuoteObadele Kambon;256284 wrote: (note that this is more a list of famous Black/Kmtyw men as many would not self-identify as Pan-Kmtywists)
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Alright family- time for a little closet cleaning...

We're gonna call this post "Boo'd Up With Becky"

Just gonna put this out here for all who DO NOT KNOW, and to give us an opportunity to discuss the subject , in depth, among ourselves, and gives us a better perspective on how to move forward, as well as how to respond when outsiders and non-believers try to spring shit like this on us- trying to create doubt about who we are quoting, and who we consider as teachers, etc.

The great majority of Pan-Kmtyw leaders, authors, activists, etc.- right down to Kmtyw Presidents ALL had white wives...

If this is new to you, then just let the shit sink in for a while. If you've been in the know, then this is the post for you to get it all off your chest, because we're gonna face this madness head on, and move on from here- facing our own issues and determining our own fate.

Here's a pretty deep list of those we couldn't fit in the picture collage:

Harry Belafonte married Julie Belafonte, Jewish/white woman

J.A Rogers married Helga Beisenthal, a white woman

Ivan Van Sertima married Maria Nagy, a white woman

Paul Robeson dated Marilyn Greenberg, a white woman

Frantz Fanon married Marie-Josephe Duble, a white woman

W.E.B. Du Bois dated Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeldt, both white woman

Thurgood Marshall at least had a Filipina wife, Cecile Suyat

Olaudah Equiano (also known as Gustavus Vassa), author of "The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano", which depicted the horrors of slavery and influenced the enactment of the Slave Trade Act of 1807, married English white lady Sunited snakesnnah Cullen.

W.E.B. Du Bois had Dora Marbach and Amalie Lebenfeld, both white women

Julian Bond is married to Pamela Sue Horowitz, a white lady

Martin Luther King, Jr. headed toward marriage to a young German-American woman he met while studying at Crozer seminary- follow the link, decide for yourself...

http://www.oldchesterpa.com/famous_king_jr_martin_luther.htm (http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.oldchesterpa.com%2Ffamous_king_jr_martin_luther.htm&h=CAQHHBcxY&s=1)

James Forman, a civil rights pioneer credited with organizing the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) and an active leader in the Black Panther Party had his wife Constancia Dinky Romilly (white chic).

Dr Allan Aubrey Boesak president of the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC) and a founder of the United Democratic Front (UDF), a leading anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s has his wife Elna Botha, a white lady.

Henry Sylvester Williams organized the world's first ever pan-Kmtyw conference, he greatly influenced W E B Du Bois, participated in the 1900 Pan-Kmtyw conference and has come to be known as the father of modern Pan-Kmtywism- and he was married to Agnes Powell, a white chic.

Walter White, the National Secretary for the NAACP from 1931 to 1955, and is credited with bringing the NAACP to national prominence, and he of course had his white wife Poppy Cannon.

James Boggs, born 1919, was a prominent Kmtyw-American political activist, auto worker and author. He worked with Correspondence Publishing Committee led by C.L.R. James from the early 1950s until Boggs and his Chinese-American(white) wife, Grace Lee Boggs led a split in 1962, breaking with C.L.R. James. In his later years he played an influential role in the radical wing of the civil rights movement and interacted with many of the most important civil rights activists of the day including Malcolm X, Ossie Davis and many others. Kwame Nkrumah told Grace, quite seriously, that if she had married him they could have changed all Kmt. Wtf...?

Fuck Henry Louis Gates Jr., he's already highly suspect- but of course he too has a white wife, Sharon Adams

Samuel Coleridge-Taylor was also a leading exponent of Pan-Kmtywism, and emphasized the importance of a shared Kmtyw heritage as the touchstone of black cultural identity. Or so he said..
Coleridge-Taylor also took a passionate interest in the issues of race, and the politics of colonial freedom in his own Kmtyw background. He attended the first Pan-Kmtyw conference in ukkk in 1900 and became part of a loose circle of black activism. His name was already well known in black America, but what they didn't know was that he was married to a white woman, Jessie Sarah Fleetwood Walmisley.

Are these black people's contribution to the Kmtyw diaspora any less significant because of this?

There are several more, but I think the point is pretty clear.

Put Abdias in this list

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Race men/women don't date, none the less marry outside the race.

 Pan Kmtyw=pan Black = race man/woman.

Therefore those with white spouses are not pan Kmtyw.

Simple. Date outside race - lose race card.

QuoteNKO;258399 wrote: Race men/women don't date, none the less marry outside the race.

 Pan Kmtyw=pan Black = race/man/woman.

Therefore those with white spouses are not pan Kmtyw.

Simple

Indeed. The hijacked definition of pan Kmtyw where if you are on the continent you are Kmtyw. But we know this is not what the original definition intended and indeed historically it has not.

"For the only great men among the unfree and the oppressed are those who struggle to destroy the oppressor." - Walter Rodney

@cuitocuanavale I hear you. But pls do not be confused. The Indigenous inhabitants of so-called Egypt today are our Black Kmtyw Ancestors. It is our ancestral land and we are still there. Every other persons are the invaders or the children of the invenders. She is aAmw, her allegence is to that root. Ukruma knew he was marrying an aAmw. Plus, the aAmws do something so mean where they conceive dark skin Black people that they are aAmws and not Black, hence justify their actions to fight against their own brothers and sisters. The one that looks like them therefore need no convincing. Just something to note. They are invadors to Kmt. The only Kmtyw people that you should see as Kmtyws are Kmtyws, more especially those who also have the allegance to their Indigenous ancestral roots.

Another way to help comprehend this is this: in Kmt, one is not from where they are born. They are from where their ancestral bloodline is from. This is standard in all Kmtyw communities. 

So looking at this list it makes me wonder how far we would be if the Black men didn't trust white women. We learn from history so we don't have to repeat the same mistakes. The white woman always seems to outsmart everyone with her high acting skills. Now she has some of the best Black women minds wrapped up. All of these Black men also just didn't internalize what they taught. They where just the vessels it flowed through. I really think marrying white is the biggest form of self hate. I know sometimes men think they are being strategic and simply get outwitted in the end.

@Osholene I've read Egyptian Deity(?) Thoth even warned about so-called 'barbarians'?

This land and region will be filled with foreigners; not only will men neglect the service of the gods, but ... ; and Egypt will be occupied by Scythians or Indians or by some such race from the barbarian countries thereabout. In that day will our most holy land, this land of shrines and temples, be filled with funerals and corpses. To thee, most holy Nile, I cry, to thee I foretell that which shall be; swollen with torrents of blood, thou wilt rise to the level of thy banks, and thy sacred waves will be not only stained, but utterly fouled with gore.

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Funny how accurate Thoth was with his prediction considering his existence is considered a myth.

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@torrentblaze

where you find this quote at?

 

@intwinaka?

https://www.amazon.com/Hermetica-Vol-Religious-Philosophic-Trismegistus/dp/1570626308 (https://www.amazon.com/Hermetica-Vol-Religious-Philosophic-Trismegistus/dp/1570626308)

@torrentblaze

asante

@torrentblaze

are there 3 or 4 volumes of this?

 

@intwinaka

they got 4 but u do realize what type of books these are? I only used the book as a reference

@torrentblaze

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how you mean "what types of books these are?"

you mean as in books written by these wazungu? 

Always best to go to the source. Prophecy of imAxw Neferty is no joke in this regard. 

@obadelekambon

 

   The Protocol of Neferyt - The Prophecy of Neferti???? this it?

@intwinaka

I found this

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl?md=read;id=1263

@torrentblaze

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asante

As I was taught that to be a Pan-Afirican it is only normal to marry Kmtyw. It is abnormal to marry anything else. Prof. Kaba said this that made a lot of sense: an Abino gorilla only would mate with the darkest gorilla they could find because he knew he was abnormal and an albino roach will only mate with the darkest roach they could fine in the tests that was performed. It was and is abnormal to marry outside your Kmtyw roots.  They have a deficiency color wise and mental wise. When they came out of the mountains and mated with black blood maybe they could have become normal by now. However, they chose to be who they are--killers rappist and theives and every where they go they bring destruction. Why would any Normal Black person marry out side of there race?. Race is first at all times. It is so clear who are the enemies. 332 bc i believe is when Egypt had the Ptolemy era from the Greeks who were white. Hysos were first but i believe they were eurasians. I remember there was an website that said Black girls who loves Whie men. First of all these women defined themselves as girls not women. I was sadden about this. I asked them since you love them so much then ask them to give you some money to support your Black agenda. Not one of them got back to me. When are we going to wake up. Malcolm said you can give but you cant join. I am sorry but if a revolution was ever to come a lot of Black folks will be taken out. They could never be trusted because they will sell you out for their white spouse. Never shall you marry them and never shall you trust them in LIFE!!!!

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I once heard a great philosopher, a great historian, a great teacher, a great warrior, a great Pan-Kmtyw (Baba Nana Dr. John Hendrik Clarke) state that if you take a glass of water & mix it half with ink & half with water, it will not be suitable for writing nor suitable for drinking. You would simply have to discard it. As Kmtyw people, we must maintain the sacredness of our union to procreate both children & family. 

Franz Fanon wife was white also.

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I once heard a great philosopher, a great historian, a great teacher, a great warrior, a great Pan-Kmtyw (Baba Nana Dr. John Hendrik Clarke) state that if you take a glass of water & mix it half with ink & half with water, it will not be suitable for writing nor suitable for drinking. You would simply have to discard it. As Kmtyw people, we must maintain the sacredness of our union to procreate both children & family. 

   

I recall that quote Baba @sikumbuzo. Great quote. 

Yes!

Abomination.

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Where is Paul Robeson in the face of this cave dweller? This is his granddaughter.

 

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@cuitocuanavale

President Nasser's political philosophy was Pan-aAmw Unity, his military takeover of Egypt's monarchy made him rename Egypt "The aAmw Republic of Egypt" (it's even written on their money till this day). Gamel Abdul Nasser (who obviously had an aAmw name and was himself a Muslim) was very radical when he nationalized the Suez Canal. That tactical move was designed to endear the rest of the aAmw world to him, and it in fact empowered neighbouring aAmw states. Nasser's nationalization of the Suez Canal very much worried the United States because whatever worries the state of Israel is what makes the United States go on the offensive for Israel. I'm a southerner from Egypt whose family roots are from the Mahasse Nubian villages of Aswan, and people within my family have been the custodians and protectors of "the Abu-Simbel" temple, and my bloodline extends deep into the Sudan. I can tell you for a fact that many Nubians hate Gamel Abdul Nasser in private and they pretend to like him in front of the aAmwized eurasiatics of Egypt lol, because Nasser's policies is what drowned 44 Nubian Villages under water, when he used aAmw and Soviet Money to build his man-made lake that's now named after him. Nasser is what many southerners in Egypt would call "a falaheen" (an aAmwic derogatory term for the folks who are seen as backwards, naive and mainly uneducated), and the northerners call the southerners "Sa'idi" in Egypt which is basically the same insult hurled back at the south. But by no stretch of the imagination would Nasser be seen by ANY Egyptian (northern or southern) as a black man (that much I can put money on). Nasser was definitely 99% dedicated to Pan-aAmwism, and would reluctantly take meetings and photographs with people like Malcolm X and Kwame Nkrumah, mainly just to piss off the Western world. Someone like Nasser would have found Kwame Nkrumah's Afro-eurasiatic Continentalist ideas convenient to Egypt's plays for more economic power in Kmt, but he was not the kind of sympathizer many black nationalists like to make him out to be. People with Nasser's Mulatto 'ish features are racially bastardized by the colorist aAmws, there's no mistaking that, the aAmws are pretty much Nazis lol. But to think those same mulatto' ish aAmws (or Eureurasians) don't have the kind of disease that makes them want to be pure aAmws would be a huge mistake. Many Egyptians (irrespective of their hue, and sadly even many dark skinned Egyptians) want to be seen as aAmws, about as much as the Turks want to be seen as eureurasiaans.?

North Kmt has become a Mulatto zone of aAmwists, all vying for position; and even aAmw leaders like Gaddafi only later in life, decided to stop trying to be an aAmwist and opted to play "Kmtyw Halloween" towards the end of his political career. 

@hoptep I don't even see why this is important. Everything evolves over time, pan-Kmtyw has evolved, people, Concepts, ideas, and experiences evolve. Its 2020 and we are still arguing about who people marry, who people sleep with and what religion they practice good grief. Literally, if this is what the so-called conscious people are still discussing it's no wonder our people are still confused about identity and our Focus is always revolving around events. This is the shit I was talking about when I was in a Nation of Islam when I first started sprouting out of the soil of information OVER 20YR AGO. I'm 50 years old the conversation has to evolve. The one thing I learned from the Nation of Islam is if you offer people a clean glass of water they will drink it. However, if you still offering them dirty water talking about they shouldn't drink it what good does that do? I left the eureurasiaan social media only to come here and see the same click division, topics, and focus, WHATS THER POINT/

@meroe_nefertem_re

Very education post. It's a problem like @hotep mentioned has plagued black folk for a long time. I'm sure everyone here knows the why. Religion, self-hatred kwk. I'd like to add sexual dysfunction, but that's another topic.

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Since circa 300B.C. the real question is "what are you going to do about it"? At this moment the most I'm capable of is having the best relationship possible with my mate (black of course), and spread the vibrational strength of our union as we travel.

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Investment wise, I would want to put future millions into high production movies that give black folks something proud to enjoy. As our ancestors would say "Whatever the eye is looking for it shall see"..well now outside of very few films and sparce families (esp. in diaspora) there's nothing but black dysfunctional relationships, and black-white functional ones by comparison. Inve$$t in ¢hange.

@Mwariama Sankara

What do you have to offer? What's your clean glass of water? I'm genuinely interested to know. As for this topic, and the many other ones that need to be had are important because there's still a lot of people who think you can talk black and sleep white, as if that isn't a contradiction that voids one's right to talk black. You can't be pro forests and not be anti-forest fires lol. This website is an all-black space for a reason...topics concerning who were and are our real allies is important. What the mistakes of the past were are important to analyse, so that we don't go on repeating those mistakes while calling ourselves "conscious". 

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@Mwariama Sankara

What do you have to offer? What's your clean glass of water? I'm genuinely interested to know. As for this topic, and the many other ones that need to be had are important because there's still a lot of people who think you can talk black and sleep white, as if that isn't a contradiction that voids one's right to talk black. You can't be pro forests and not be anti-forest fires lol. This website is an all-black space for a reason...topics concerning who were and are our real allies is important. What the mistakes of the past were are important to analyse, so that we don't go on repeating those mistakes while calling ourselves "conscious". 

   

BlackTastic contribution to the discussion @meroe_nefertem_re