Adhering to which ideology/lifestyle produces the least concrete/tangible results in one's life and living conditions (including, but not limited to food/water, clothing, shelter, security, kwk).
I really do not know, since there are a few I have not used/followed/adopted. Therefore I do not know how ineffective they really are or maybe . Also, some of the choices I feel are the same or encompass others.
QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;70155 wrote: I really do not know, since there are a few I have not used/followed/adopted. Therefore I do not know how ineffective they really are or maybe . Also, some of the choices I feel are the same or encompass others.
I would think that having used/followed/adopted them would give you a hands-on perspective on effectiveness and/or lack thereof.
I can concede the encompassing of others. :soldiert:
QuoteObadele Kambon;70633 wrote: I would think that having used/followed/adopted them would give you a hands-on perspective on effectiveness and/or lack thereof.
I can concede the encompassing of others. :soldiert:
There are some on the list I can't comment on its effectiveness or lack of, since I have never adopted them, that's what I mean.
QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;70640 wrote: There are some on the list I can't comment on its effectiveness or lack of, since I have never adopted them, that's what I mean.
Okay, i thought you were saying the opposite. Any observations from the outside looking in?
QuoteObadele Kambon;70672 wrote: Okay, i thought you were saying the opposite. Any observations from the outside looking in?
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- Integration - lived that reality in my youth, which screwed me up, killed too many brain cells. That definitely ain't the way to go. Nope.
- Nation of Gods and Earths (5% Nation) - lots of laughs with these cats. I knew a lot of them, a lot and only knew one that was really serious about it. This movement seems pretty much dead now though. At least where I am. Nope.
- Christianity - was never made to go to church. I consider that a bullet dodged. Nope.
- Rastafarianism - like the spirit in them but the bible thing always turned me off, and the weed. Although, I been known to partake in my past:D. Although, I have known some that said they don't/didn't smoke weed. Nope.
- Hebrew Israelite - honestly these brothers (never met any sister involved) seem a bit off. Nope.
- Nation of Islam - I have to give credit that it was a Farrakhan video I saw that helped awakened me and put me on my current path. I always agreed with their Black pride paradigms but never cared much for their theology. I never bought or could except the Yacoub story. Never felt Islam in general. And when I saw the picture of Fard Muhammad I was like huhhhhh???? Of all the Malcolm X tapes/videos I have listen to (and I have the highest regard for him then anybody within our history) the one's where he is preaching in the mosque's are his worst to me by far. Nope.
- Black Socialism - never ran across any of them in my time. A few calling themselves communism I have but white folks were running them. They never talk about spirituality and actually look down on it. And they quote to many eureurasiaans, a few eurasians and no Kmtyws. Nope.
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QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;70674 wrote:
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- Integration - lived that reality in my youth, which screwed me up, killed too many brain cells. That definitely ain't the way to go. Nope.
- Nation of Gods and Earths (5% Nation) - lots of laughs with these cats. I knew a lot of them, a lot and only knew one that was really serious about it. This movement seems pretty much dead now though. At least where I am. Nope.
- Christianity - was never made to go to church. I consider that a bullet dodged. Nope.
- Rastafarianism - like the spirit in them but the bible thing always turned me off, and the weed. Although, I been known to partake in my past:D. Although, I have known some that said they don't/didn't smoke weed. Nope.
- Hebrew Israelite - honestly these brothers (never met any sister involved) seem a bit off. Nope.
- Nation of Islam - I have to give credit that it was a Farrakhan video I saw that helped awakened me and put me on my current path. I always agreed with their Black pride paradigms but never cared much for their theology. I never bought or could except the Yacoub story. Never felt Islam in general. And when I saw the picture of Fard Muhammad I was like huhhhhh???? Of all the Malcolm X tapes/videos I have listen to (and I have the highest regard for him then anybody within our history) the one's where he is preaching in the mosque's are his worst to me by far. Nope.
- Black Socialism - never ran across any of them in my time. A few calling themselves communism I have but white folks were running them. They never talk about spirituality and actually look down on it. And they quote to many eureurasiaans, a few eurasians and no Kmtyws. Nope.
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Are you evaluating them on the basis of how insane the ideologies are or the degree to which they provide for food/clothes/shelter/protection?
QuoteObadele Kambon;70766 wrote: Are you evaluating them on the basis of how insane the ideologies are or the degree to which they provide for food/clothes/shelter/protection?
In my mind the question is interrelated. If I'm insane but have food/clothes/shelter/protection, something ain't right. Same if you reverse the equation. This speaks volumes for any ideology you follow. It must cover mind, body (and where it dwells physically) & spirit. Then you must be able to protect it. I lead you by the way I answered but you can't separate the two, sanity of said ideology and material needs.
Do you find some to be heavier on food/clothes/shelter/security and lighter on sense or vice versa? aK forums is about to be me and you conversing in public. Mark my words! :soldierg:
QuoteObadele Kambon;70770 wrote: Do you find some to be heavier on food/clothes/shelter/security and lighter on sense or vice versa? aK forums is about to be me and you conversing in public. Mark my words! :soldierg:
Tough question to answer in a few sentences. I would have to think more on that to provide a solid answer. In short, some of the groups have a ratio of 0% - 100% (or 100% - 0%) and then some move toward a more 50%-50% ratio but none are balanced in real terms. From my experience I find all the groups to be heavy on rhetoric. In and of itself that's not a bad thing since the message and platform must be delivered some how.
I hope others join this discussion. I like to read what others have to say.
Which one(s) move towards 50/50?
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I knew you would ask :D.
You may find my answer interesting but Holistic Health. I can speak from experience they cover all areas in a most balance manner but not entirely. They are probably weakest in area of security. But I did received my Kupigana Ngumi instruction from a Holistic Health practitioner.
QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;70851 wrote: I knew you would ask :D.
You may find my answer interesting but Holistic Health. I can speak from experience they cover all areas in a most balance manner but not entirely. They are probably weakest in area of security. But I did received my Kupigana Ngumi instruction from a Holistic Health practitioner.
I do find your answer interesting, though I can see your rationale. I can see them having food covered, but I've seen variability on the clothes, shelter and security piece. Some of the more prominent figures have land/farms/gardens where they may get their shelter on.
One big thing I like about that group is they tend to be minimalists. They seem to be less caught up in wanting the trickets and junk this society wants you to blow your roll and time on. This frees them to have funds to cover the needs.
QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;70858 wrote: One big thing I like about that group is they tend to be minimalists. They seem to be less caught up in wanting the trickets and junk this society wants you to blow your roll and time on. This frees them to have funds to cover the needs.
That's interesting in that most of the trinkets and junk take away from holistic health and those who are into it seem to want to be consistent on that level.
Kmtyw Centeredness
Afrocentricity
Nation of Gods and Earths
Black Socialism and Communism
I picked these five. If you have theory but no active, living culture, then you will have poor results in one's life and living conditions.
I chose Black Communism but I could've also chosen Black Socialism. Very hard to practice the aforementioned in a Capitalist country.
QuoteBaba_Ogunmola;133582 wrote: Kmtyw Centeredness
Afrocentricity
Nation of Gods and Earths
Black Socialism and Communism
I picked these five. If you have theory but no active, living culture, then you will have poor results in one's life and living conditions.
QuoteTenkamenin;133731 wrote: I chose Black Communism but I could've also chosen Black Socialism. Very hard to practice the aforementioned in a Capitalist country.
I forgot about this thread. Good justifications for your choices.
It's also important that it is made clear Kmtyw centeredness, Pan Kmtywism are the greatest threat to white dominance across the world. Consequently, it's expected that this is where their greatest efforts are going to be concentrated, the quicker you prioritize Kmt and specifically black Kmt the sooner we might encounter serious problems and if history is any indication grave problems. Worldwide white domination can be defeated, it's going to take what in military terms is called a flank attack, instead of exclusively grassroots up it's needs to be conjoined with other elements top down and all sides in between.
I would conclude all of them mainly have the same amount of effectiveness as each other. Although, I candidly hold Kmtyw centeredness as the best vehicle for improving our plight and really everything else in my opinion could just be considered another obstacle to our real freedom.