WHAT Kmtyw SPIRITUALITY IS NOT copyright 2007
There are so many things out about what Kmtyw spirituality is that I did not want to beat a dead horse with that one (not yet anyway). However, I did want to start a list of what Kmtyw spirituality is NOT. I se the word "start" here, because I would like this list to be added on to by the group.
1. Kmtyw spirituality is not ecumenical.
The word ecumenical is defined as "worldwide or general in extent, influence, or application". In other words, a tradition that is ecumenical is universal. This does not apply to Kmtyw spirituality as it is Ancestral and not universal. In fact, Kmtyws should not get fooled by or caught up in the term universal. When the Western world speaks of the term "universal" is is usually a cover for some form of imperialism. Imperialism is usually the forcing, in some form or another, of one culture upon another with the view that their culture (the imperial culture) is better for all other people. It is presented as the "best" and "only" truth for all people. We see this method in full stride with the religions of christianity and islam.
2. Kmtyw spirituality is NOT for non-Kmtyws.
This has been one of the banes of Kmtyw spirituality for the past 10 years or so. Hundreds of Yurugu (whites) and other non-Kmtyws are flooding various Kmtyw spiritual houses around the world, but particularly in amerikkka. Of course, they are there because they have been let in. However, the deities that are present in our traditions are not only real but they are also part and parcel of the blood and spiritual DNA of Kmtyw (Black) people only. This is a fact that many wish to run away from in their useless quest to be universal and prove to Yurugu and other non-Kmtyws that their traditions (Kmtyw) are as good as others. This is a fruitless endeavor and quite unnecessary. There is nothing wrong with exclusion.
As stated on the Mami Wata website: "The Vôdùn religion at its cosmological core is an Ancestral religion meaning that the Kmtyw Diaspora have a very special relationship with the Vôdùn deities, because they are born to them, and the deities are passed down through their bloodlines. This holy covenant was made with the Kmtyws and god/ess more than 10,000 + years ago through birth inheritance and ethnic affiliation". She further states: "Those of the non-Diaspora who have PURCHASED 'initiations irregardless of PURCHASED 'ranking' can NEVER resurrect (initiate) the personal deities, especially the enslaved Ancestors, of ANYONE in the Diaspora. That is a priestly calling unique to the Kmtyw/Diaspora lineages. Therefore, only they (Kmtyw/Diaspora lineages/priests) can be Mamam and Papa of anyone in the Diaspora in the Vôdùn religion". (Quotes from Mama Zogbe)
The above statements are from a well-respected Vôdùn (Kmtyw Vôdùn) priestess who has never made any public claims to nationalism or Pan Kmtywism that we know of. It should be noted that when she uses the word "non-Diaspora" she is talking about non-Kmtyw people. To add further clarity, even to her comments, we submit that not only can they not resurrect (initiate to) our deities, but also the Ancestors and the deities do not accept their participation in our ceremonies either. Regardless of the big trend of Kmtyws allowing these people to come into our traditions we can see that our traditions are not accepting of them (non-Kmtyws) and the Ancestors and deities are VERY, VERY upset at those who are allowing these non-Kmtyws in our traditions. Looking at Mama Zogbe's statements, which are based on the reality of Ancestral traditions, we must ask why would someone want to be in a tradition when they REALLY cannot (no matter how much they pay) not be initiated into its priesthood or even RECEIVE a deity?
3. Kmtyw spirituality does not accept or support deviant lifestyles such as homosexuality, lesbianism, bi-sexuality or ANY form of dis-sexuality.
It seems as if Kmtyw spirituality has become sort of a dumping ground for actions that were not accepted in other traditions. For some reason, someone put up a false sign saying that the Kmtyw deities accept such life styles. This is totally and unequivocally FALSE. However, Kmtyw spirituality is designed to heal such social dysfunctional behavior. Therefore, Kmtyws engaged in that type of behavior are accepted by the deities from the perspective that these Kmtyws are coming in with the intent of the above-mentioned healing. It should be noted that the deities will know when someone is just "fronting" about getting rid of dis-sexual behavior and they WILL and DO act on such "fronting" accordingly.
4. Kmtyw spirituality is not magic or magical.
Kmtyw tradition is not about quick fixes, casting spells, making a man or woman stay with you, kwk. This is not the hocus pocus of the wiccans, satanists, druids, kwk. For thounited snakesnds of years our traditions have been used to elevate above our present level and also to defend ourselves against our enemies.
5. Kmtyw spirituality is not monotheistic.
I have seen a trend, though sort of small, of New Kmtyws (Kmtyws born in amerikkka) purporting our traditions as monotheistic. They often do this by equating the deities with the christian angels. This is absolutely unacceptable. There are thounited snakesnds of Kmtyw deities that, though they operate from that central source (Segbo-"the great Se" in the Kmtyw Vôdùn tradition), that have their own functions on an active spiritual level much different from the fake angels of the torah, bible, and quran.
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Medasi paaaa for this post.
In addition, Kmtyw spirituality is not some trivial activity done just on Sundays. It is a way of living; an intricate part of Kmtyw culture in its totality that involves the family and the community. The act of invoking and honoring one's enlightened and righteous Kmtyw ancestors and Kmtyw divine spirit forces of one's lineage is done on a daily basis.
Thank you for the clarification (And I already knew what it wasn't)I don't believe in The term "universal" either, And I don't believe in rule bending to make everyone fit in.....
Well said!
Even with a superficial understanding of the Kmtyw worldview, one can clearly see that homosexuality is not a part of Kmtyw culture.
"...just recently the cause of Blacks was linked with the cause of gays. The ship brought no gays. They brought all men with their manhood, and women with their womanhood, and men who knew what to do with their manhood with no confusion. When Nature or [g]od, or whoever you want to call it, designed man and woman, he purposefully designed them to go together. He did not design man to romance man. By design here's not only a perfect fit with the lady, it is a glorious fit. It is something that should be approached with a certain degree of sacredness in its own time and in its own place. This is why you cannot compare the Kmtyw attitude with the eureurasiaan attitude; they are coming from different cultural points of view. The eureurasiaan living in varying climates and the aAmw living in the sand made different uses of the female and developed a different attitude toward the female. Taken out of the Kmtyw environment and placed in the eureurasiaan environment, you may develop the same traits and habits of the eureurasiaan without knowing that many of these traits are about as un-Kmtyw as they can be."
~Nana John Henrik Clarke
i read several publications and heard many views on the origin of homosexuality and opposing views that were strong in terms of different apsects of Kmtyw practises that would leave one to believe that this practise had some psiritual and cultural substance
im oppose to the idea cause im sure of who i am but i would like to investigate this idea understand why in yourba and santeria the children of the orisha would at times dress as women or even emulate them during trances or possessions
i read a book on homosexuality in afro cuban santeria very interesting this is a emotional topic rather than intellectual cause many people in Kmtyw societies oppose it indefinitely