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Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid85845
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 30, 2013, 07:18 AM
Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time
K. K. Bunseki Fu-Kiau

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Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid85890
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 30, 2013, 04:02 PM
@Obadele Kambon...I remember Kwasi and I attended a lecture by Dr. Fu-Kiau many years ago on this same subject.
Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid85912
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jun 30, 2013, 09:41 PM
@Yaw Asare Aboagye, sounds like it was a BlackPowerful talk. Have you heard anything about Ngânga Fu-Kiâu's health recently? I contributed to a fund to send him to Kôngo months ago but I never heard an update other than he was gravely ill at the time.
Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid85913
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jun 30, 2013, 10:19 PM
Dabi. I did not know he was sick until you mentioned it a while back. I have not heard a thing on his condition. You were my only source on him in that regard. Until your news I thought he was still in Boston. Perhaps @Kwasi knows something, I will ask him.

QuoteObadele Kambon;85912 wrote: @Yaw Asare Aboagye (http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/member.php?u=7644), sounds like it was a BlackPowerful talk. Have you heard anything about Ngânga Fu-Kiâu's health recently? I contributed to a fund to send him to Kôngo months ago but I never heard an update other than he was gravely ill at the time.
Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid141679
Post by: Khafrahotep on Jan 24, 2015, 07:04 PM
Meda ase Obadele for the Baba Fu-Kiau reference... How do you say "Living Sun" in KiKongo?
Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid142629
Post by: Mani Kongo on Feb 04, 2015, 04:09 AM
QuoteKhafrahotep;141679 wrote: Meda ase Obadele for the Baba Fu-Kiau reference... How do you say "Living Sun" in KiKongo?
Yènge kiâku Khafrahotep !

First of all I noticed that Ngânga Fu-Kiau sometimes writes Living Sun with quotation marks which may be a sign that it's the best way to describe what the Mûntu concept means in english but still has its limits.

In Self-Healing Power and Therapy, he writes "The musoni sun (lit. "the yellow sun")" as well as "the tukula sun (the red sun)" (both p.65) so maybe we can say Ntangu yakala or Ntangu ndombe to express the idea of Black Sun. I'll look into that as well b/c that Black Sun concept you mentioned is powerful! Especially when you take into account that Black is Life in the Dikenga.

And regarding a Kongo name, in Part I, chapter 1 of SHPT you have "The Naming Process" (p.10) with valuable info. The whole Part I is about conceptualization of the Mûntu.
In this: http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/33631-Kmtyw-Cosmology-of-the-Bantu-Kongo  (http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/33631-Kmtyw-Cosmology-of-the-Bantu-Kongo)you have good info and Kikôngo words to define the Mûntu also.(p.70-71)

These are good blocks to start building in my opinion. Let's build!
Title: Ntangu-Tandu-Kolo: The Bantu-Kongo Concept of Time-gctid233037
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on May 11, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mbènzi vo living sun i "ntângu ya môyo" evo "ntângu a môyo."