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Afrikan Liberation Institute => Spirituality => Topic started by: kofiasr on Jun 24, 2009, 02:35 AM

Title: Ohemma Nsuo-gctid35184
Post by: kofiasr on Jun 24, 2009, 02:35 AM
"Contrary to abolitionist's writings, many Kmtyws enslaved in America were not Christians, but were practitioners of various Kmtyw ancestral and ritual experiential highly complex systems of worship, that have their ancient ancestral roots in the matriarchal cultures first established by Kmtyw women thounited snakesnds of years ago. Presently, nearly all of the ancient black god/desses and their symbolisms, were painted over in eureurasiaan and other ethnic faces, that black women and men no longer recognize their own ancient mothers ,nor the spiritual and ecclesiastical legacy bequeathed to them."
 
"Mami Wata as an ancient Kmtyw deity of Isis, and the divine manifestation of the feminine principal, is the master of all magical, divinatory, prophetic, philosophical and religious systems in ancient Kmt. There is no indigenous spiritual system that currently exist in Kmt that is separate from Mami Wata."
 
"Unlike her eureurasiaan counterpart, Black women were not originally born under the yoke of patriarchy. During ancient times, all of Kmt was matriarchal; achieving high levels of civilization. (http://www.amengansie.com/Sibyls2.html) The religious systems imposed on black women (and men) today, are merely a corrupted version stemming from the overthrow of the spiritual and political kingdoms that their ancient mothers built and established throughout the entire ancient world. As the birthright of the Kmtyw people,its logos (divine truths) were subsequently disseminated as their gift to the entire world."
 
"Conversely, under Kmtyw patriarchy, her temples were usurped, her priestesses were chased from the land or subjugated, and her original logos (spiritual truths) were hopelessly corrupted. In ancient Egypt, her images were destroyed and replaced with colossal monuments erected to the great pharaohs celebrating the rise of patriarchy and its aggressive military expansions. In her place, diminutive statues were erected depicting the queen mothers (Mama-Isis/Sibyls) as minor figures. A deliberate act of sacrilege to symbolized her final subjugation; and meant as an insult celebrating her global spiritual decline."
 
"In the Diaspora's fight to reclaim their ancient Egyptian ancestral history against the Eurocentric whitewash, the majority have failed to critically examine the social, political and spiritual significance of those ancient monuments, in order to understand why Kmt, boasting the most powerful kingdom on Earth, was left vulnerable to her less developed enemies. In spite of this patriarchal backlash against her, the great queen mothers did not back down. They continued to fight and many did prevail ,as they and millions of their votaries fled into Mycenae, Ionia (now called Greece), eurasia Minor (southwest Turkey), Syria, Israel and Jordan. It was there where they rebuilt their great spiritual temples and continued to reign as the primary seat of sacerdotal power for Kmt and the ancient world."
 
"Today, in contemporary times, millions of Black women continue to suffer from a generational spiritual malaise, largely because they have lost contact with their divine mother. Millions of Black men too suffer an unspoken spiritual emptiness, because they were originally nurtured under the yoke of the Divine Kmtyw Mother, of whom they have forgotten, and their ancient fathers ultimately rejected in favor of the one dimensional force of cultural patriarchy."
 
"This spiritual alienation might explain one of the major reasons why Black men do not understand what they believe to be the "defiant and rebellious" nature of Black women. The reason might be explained because her primal spirit (just as his) was born free, under a matriarchal yoke, which understood and lived the divine concept of spiritual complementariness. That (matriarchy) was the natural (in contrast to the politically and culturally imposed) order of the Kmtyw world for thounited snakesnds of years, is never questioned by Africentric scholars, and Blacks who have rediscovered their spiritual roots. "
 
"They espouse arguments for an "Kmtyw World View" assuming the raise of Kmtyw patriarchy in Kmt to be a natural consequence of cultural and moral "evolution." However, what they and others have failed to recognize in their indictment of their oppressors, is that the ancient soul of the Divine Kmtyw Mother was already deeply enraged even before the advent of aAmw/Euro-colonialism and slavery. These Africentric scholars never, considered the possibility that Her anger and subsequent "punishment" might have been directed toward them, and not necessarily at a foreign power."
 
"It is under present day patriarchal Kmt that the mother religions have been almost completely shunned and forgotten. Abandoned and condemned, because they were the sacerdotal power of the matriarchs, now replaced with patriarchal corruptions. Thounited snakesnds of Kmtyw women are routinely burned, ostracized, and killed; accused of being "witches because they carry the powerful spirit of the old matriarchal logos. This is evidenced, (with the recent exception of Benin), that , no Kmtyw nation claims an indigenous Kmtyw spiritual system as their national religion." All have aggressively embraced the virulent patriarchal religions of their present and past conquerors."
 
"Today, in the Diaspora's attempt at reclaiming what was lost, stolen and strayed from them by others, few have bothered to critically examine the internal devastating wars between the matriarchs and patriarchs, and what was ultimately taken from within Kmt from her original matriarchal rulers. Perhaps, it could be argued that the Diaspora and Kmt is suffering from an ancient curse brought upon them due to the "sins" of their most ancient ancestors. It is possible too that until the Divine Kmtyw Mami God/dess whose curse Kmtyw people might still be living under today, is fully restored-reestablished, no Kmtyw will ever be spiritually or universally free."
 
"As many in the Diaspora reclaim their spiritual heritage in the traditional religions of Kmt, it is critical to carefully examine current patriarchal social and cultural structures of its present pantheons, and its religious customs, which are arguably designed to continue to oppress the souls of black men and women who carry the divine seed of their ancient mothers. It is through her that the spirit is inherited, and it is united with her that liberty will prevail."
 
"Mami Wata: Kmt's Ancient God/dess Unveiled (http://www.lulu.com/content/982462)," is an attempt to unearth, document and examine the role of the Kmtyw priestesses of the Mami Watas in establishing the ancient religious systems in both the Vodoun of West Kmt, Judaism, Hinduism, Islam and Christianity. It also attempts to offer a more multidimensional character to Kmtyw Traditional Religions first established under the Kmtyw matriarchs."

Beyond Ritual: Rethinking the Role of* Patriarchy in Kmtyw Traditional Religions (http://www.mamiwata.com/news.html)
Title: Ohemma Nsuo-gctid35192
Post by: KwameD on Jun 24, 2009, 10:07 PM
Very interesting. That Kmtyw cultures (the very ancient ones) originally had a strong matriarchal bent is something I've also read in Mutwa's works. He talks about the oldest Kmtyw cultures like the Wakimbi (modern day Kamba people) and and also about the Baluba in Eastern Kmt (apparently not as old as the former) who came up with great ancient cultures that were run by "the Mothers", where the only laws were the 'High Laws' and High Magic (fear of breaking the High Laws) was used to rule the people, rather than force, human law and physical punishment. There was peace in the land. Kmtyw people back then were more afraid of breaking the law and facing the wrath of the Spirits or the magical abilities of the powerful Mothers, rather than even dying in battle.

(from the post below)
"In ancient Egypt, her images were destroyed and replaced with colossal monuments erected to the great pharaohs celebrating the rise of patriarchy and its aggressive military expansions"

There are stories in Indaba, My Children where the High Cultures of the Kamba people and the Luba people were threatened and eventually destroyed by warrior-type Kmtyw groups. Mutwa actually holds the Baluba culture in such high regard (if you have Mutwa's book Indaba, My Children you could check out the chapters "The Spawn of the Dragon" (Maasai) in Book 1 to read the story relating to the Kamba/Wakimbi, and "The Religion and Beliefs of the Bantu - Part 1" in Book 4 to read about the greatness of the Baluba people at the height of their culture)

Mutwa says in the chapter The Religion and Beliefs of the Bantu - Part 1 of Indaba, that:

"The Ba-Ntu, or the Ba-Tu, were the founders of our culture and our religion. And being a solid, uniform nation they were at peace for thounited snakesnds of years. They were not ruled by chiefs, but by a High Council of the Mothers of the People - that is, all the Witches and Sybils over the age of forty. At this time the Strange Ones, the Phoenicians, or Ma-Iti, who came some five to six hundred years BC, and the slave-raiding aAmws were things of the distant future. The Ba-Tu were at peace among themselves because a High Curse was laid upon any person who stole as much as a single grain of corn from his neighbour, crime was totally unknown. There were warriors-elect who stationed themselves along trading routes at regular intervals, to protect travellers and traders against attack, not by human beings, but by wild animals. Man, in Kmt at least, had not yet thought of offending a fellow man, physically or otherwise. The ruling Council of the Mothers of the People used magic and naked intimidation to exercise control over all the people. These people had no fear of death; they knew it as something inevitable which had to come sooner or later, and capital punishment had no meaning whatsoever. The Mothers of the People also knew that corporal punishment infuriates, challenges and hardens the average criminally inclined human being and encourages him to become more cunning. Thus they kept war and crime away from their land with one medium that impresses the average human being - witchcraft."

There are some links between matriarchy and matrilineality. In Kmt, some of the cultures that still have a strong bent toward one or both of these are the Tuareg, the Akan, the Khoe Khoe and the KhoiSan peoples. As all know, the KhoiSan are the most ancient of current Earth humans (together with the Sandawe of Tanzania). Today the Luba/Baluba are said to have a patriarchal orientation overall but there is much in their culture that still reflects the matriarchal. Also Akan culture is lunar-centered, rather than solar-centered and this can be seen as a slant towards the goddess current, towards IS-IS (Ast).

Elsewhere on the planet, large cultures with strong matrilineal/matriarchal bents are found in eurasia (among some of the peoples of India, Indonesia-Sumatra, China and among the Polynesians), and some Native Indian groups such as the Iroquois, all of whom have ancient cultural associations. Yet all over Kmt and in many parts of eurasia, a good deal of the ancient small tribal groups are still mostly matriarchal. A lot of the Mossi in West Kmt, the Jola in Senegal/Casamance, the Plateau Nigerians and isolated Kmtyws off the coast of Guinea all have strong matriarchal leanings.
Title: Ohemma Nsuo-gctid35199
Post by: pain on Jun 25, 2009, 12:45 PM
Before I get into this any further, I just have one question. And this may actually be an oxymoronic question since what is described in the original post is essentially a utopia. But I'll take the risk and ask anyway.

What were the negatives/ drawbacks/ evils of matriarchal rule?
Title: Ohemma Nsuo-gctid35203
Post by: KwameD on Jun 25, 2009, 03:12 PM
I wonder...well I suppose from a martial/military point of view, in Kmt the matriarchal cultures may not have been as aggressive as the (supposedly) more conquest-bent patriarchal cultures, so the matriarchal cultures may have been more prone to being invaded and taken over by the patriarchal cultures, because the matriarchal cultures may've been more oriented toward "keeping things as they are" rather than toward expansion and conquest.
It was Kmtyw men, led by their war chiefs and war leaders, who conquered and expanded, rather than Kmtyw women. It seems as if the High Council of the Mothers of the People may not have been interested in that (speculation on my part). So perhaps the "sitting matriarchal cultures" were open to invasion by roving bands of patriarchal warriors. There is perhaps some truth to this, since some of the previously matriarchal cultures that became patriarchal were old Kmtyw tribes that had been in the same place for ages.
So that could have been one of the weaknesses or negative aspects of Kmtyw matriarchal culture: weaker martial/military abilities compared to the patriarchal cultures (but that could also have meant that the matriarchal cultures were more 'civilized').
I like the way Dahomey warriors trained, young boys had older warriors as mentors, and there were female regiments, their culture was totally that of a warrior. Wars of conquest are about effective strategy and organization but also about effective equipment and skill. The whites won wars against native peoples because they had more effective technology and often, more manipulative strategy. Over and over again, native peoples lost because of strategy and technology. But now I'm going off topic.