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Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid36909
Post by: Agbede on Oct 11, 2009, 04:52 PM
Bro. Amos N. Wilson on the Politics of Science and Technology. These are not neutral and non-political subjects. See attached video.
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Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid40654
Post by: tare on Aug 31, 2010, 05:58 PM
Maita basa. Good stuff.
Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid48889
Post by: Agbede on Jan 20, 2012, 12:16 AM
Black maladjustment is a political factor. And I often try to get across to people the understanding that when we go to these universities and these schools one of the greatest deceptions that is run upon us is the idea that the things that we are taught in these schools are non-political, that they are neutral, that they are somehow universal. And of course the whites run a beautiful game on us when they for instance name their courses without putting their ethnicity in front of them. They don't say white psychology, white education, white economics, white physics, white chemistry, you know? And we often naively then assume because they are called economics, psychology, anthropology that we are in a course that has general and universal meanings. And we are made to think that we are odd when we call a course Black Studies – that there's something wrong with it. But every course in the american college and university and in the american educational establishment is a course in white Studies ladies and gentlemen. And every course in every discipline is designed for essentially the same thing – to maintain white dominance.

We must be very conscious of that and we must recognize that a major part of the education of our children and of ourselves is a fact that we must politicize the courses that we are taking – even science, even physics and chemistry. So a lot of people think oh were talking about atoms and molecules or this or that and they have no ethnicity and they have no politics. In a fundamental way you may be right, but on another level there's a problem with that.

Science, scientific thinking and technological development does not just develop in the head of some genius. It's not the result of some scientific genius who happened to strike up on some major discovery. Scientific discovery and technological development take place within a political-social structure. You have to have a political system, a system of social relations, an economic system in order that science and technology develop and flourish. They do not flourish in a vacuum.

Therefore it is not enough just to teach your children physics and chemistry. You must teach them the politics of physics and chemistry. You must teach them the economics of physics and chemistry. You must teach them how a system must organize itself politically and socially such that physical and chemical research take place. It is not enough for us to educate Kmtyw boys and girls in science and technology so that the Kmtyw can catch up with the eureurasiaans. You'll never catch up with the eureurasiaan just by knowing science and technology...because ladies and gentlemen you have to finance technological research. You have to pay scientists to do research – people just don't do research for nothing. If you run the latest physics experiment you'd have to produce a cyclotron with a circumference of some 20 or 30 miles around that costs billions of dollars. And if you're then talking about catching up with the eureurasiaan scientifically, then you must catch up with the eureurasiaan and surpass him what?....economically.

If your children are going to work for you and give their scientific genius to the advancement of Black people then we as Black people must give them an economic, political, and social foundation in which their gifts can be realized and handed over to us as a people.

And therefore, to merely teach chemistry and physics as some neutral subject, as some body of knowledge unrelated to everything else going on in the world is to be miseducated. That is one of the reasons why we have a country filled – as Black people – with chemists, with engineers, machinists, and yet we don't seem to be able to export one gun to South Kmt. We don't seem to be able to make one bomb. We have generals, and sergeants, and green berets and rangers and all of the rest and yet we are unable to train one gorilla or anything else to fight for their liberation in this world because there is a lack of social organization.

It is not enough just to have knowledge. It is not enough just to have money. Money and knowledge must be organized in order to be effective. And knowledge in order to flourish and be actualized in some concrete advancement for people must be based ultimately on social relations between those people. So there must be a social structure.

And while your children are learning science and mathematics they must learn to love themselves and to love one another and to cooperate one with the other. Or else they'll have an Afrocentric mind but they will still have to go down to IBM or Xerox and do their work. And ultimately then they will still be racked by a sense of inferiority and dependency.

~Amos N. Wilson
The Developmental Psychology of the Black Child Lecture
Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid48890
Post by: Agbede on Jan 20, 2012, 12:29 AM
Among the myriad of skills that are necessary for nation building one important skill is...well, building. So why is it that so many of the Kmtyws who are skilled in  science and technology are so politically and culturally misoriented?
Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid48894
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jan 20, 2012, 01:34 AM
As a former Electrical Engineering major at Penn State. I can say if I had stuck with that major I wouldn't know as much if any Kmtyw history or culture. Engineering and science disciplines I have found require a lot of time and dedication above and beyond anything else I've studied in order to excel.
 
I think if one has already been nurtured in our history and culture at a young age it's a little easier. I essentially dropped the major chose Kmtyw studies and came back to the sciences in my late 20's. You could say I wasn't smart enough to do both at the same time, perhaps, but that has been my observation over the years.
 
Presently many of the Sisters & Brothers I talk too in the Sciences & Technologies are mostly brain-dead in terms of being Kmtyw. There is definitely work to do to bring those minds into the fold. Talking to Brothers & Sisters in the social work areas, when I did that as a profession, was way easier and inviting.
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Post by: Agya Kwaku on Jan 22, 2012, 11:14 PM
In amerikkka all things  are political
Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid48955
Post by: Agbede on Jan 24, 2012, 03:36 PM
QuoteYaw Asare Aboagye;48894 wrote: As a former Electrical Engineering major at Penn State. I can say if I had stuck with that major I wouldn't know as much if any Kmtyw history or culture. Engineering and science disciplines I have found require a lot of time and dedication above and beyond anything else I've studied in order to excel.
I can definitely concur with this. Lots of time is spent pounding content into your head -- all of which is supersaturated with euro worldview/culture and politics (despite it being presented as apolitical).
Title: Amos Wilson - The Politics of Science Technology-gctid48958
Post by: Agya Yaw on Jan 24, 2012, 04:20 PM
I think the first Calculus book I had to buy had a big picture of Copernicus and Newton on it. Those that say math (especially) and science is culture neutral are wrong. In Physics there are a bunch of laws named after a bunch of eureurasiaans, like Gauss's law and Newton's laws of motion. Your brain really gets turned their way in those discliplines if you don't have prior knowledge of us or something dramatic doesn't happen in your life. Fortunately I had the drama.
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