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Afrikan Liberation Institute => Repatriation => Topic started by: Akua Ma'at on Nov 06, 2011, 03:47 PM

Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid46682
Post by: Akua Ma'at on Nov 06, 2011, 03:47 PM
Mekyea mo (Greetings y'all),

Several of us are actively planning repatriation black to our ancestral home continent and while we may be focused on repatriating to different countries in Kmt and working with different timelines, I think it would be a good idea for us to link up regularly to share updates, plans, resources kwk. Who knows, we may be able to co-ordinate our efforts to varying degrees and make the process easier or at the very least more supported.

I'm working with an 18 to 24 months timeline, location to be confirmed.

So far the repatriation courses I've attended here at abibitumikasa as well as discussions with Kmtyws who have repatriated, are repatriating and will repatriate have done much to guide my planning. Much love and respect especially to Obadele, Ofomfo Akosua and Dukuzumurenyi for their much needed encouragement whenever it was needed.

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Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid46686
Post by: Yaw Abebrese on Nov 06, 2011, 06:02 PM
:sankofa:Good News:hello:
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Post by: Okomfo Akosua on Nov 06, 2011, 06:45 PM
I appreciate this and would love to share with others as well as learn from others in order to make living in my homeland a reality.   I also took Ras AriEl's repatriation course through abibitumikasa.  As a matter of fact, I took it twice.

10-15 months is my timeline to return to my homeland, Ghana, West Kmt.  :Kmt::Kmt::Kmt:
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid46761
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Nov 08, 2011, 08:50 AM
It took me a good year from plan to action.

I worked about 16 jobs simultaneously:

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I almost drove myself to ill health from lack of rest, but it was worth it. I had a savings goal which I fell short of. I realized that the longer I stayed the more of the "nest egg" i'd have to eat into due to living expenses. My advice to others is grind as hard as your body will allow you to without dying and focus on time (rather than money) and make it happen. Also have a concrete plan (that doesn't require the support of Black people (especially "conscious" Black people with supposed ideological or racial allegiances)).
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid46765
Post by: Akua Ma'at on Nov 08, 2011, 10:20 AM
Great advice Obadele. Your story has been particularly inspiring I've taken a couple major messages from your story... the main one being focus more on the timeline that on the $$.
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Post by: Afia Khalia tweneboa Kodua on Nov 08, 2011, 05:20 PM
Man, I wish I cud say "NO" to what Obadele said about not having black folks support as apart of your plan but I can't. When I moved out the country my first time I had a master plan and was working it. I did everything myself too. It was hard but worth it!!! I had a few folks that was suppose to join me after I made the touch down and they never came.lol Not only did they never come but they never even got their passports.(smh!) I am now planning to move again and I once again have developed a nice plan to not just get me there but help others whom say they want to go also. Well, I am going about it different now, once I realized that I was about to make the same mistake as I did before. My feelings got so hurt!!! its funny! however, I am planning to move in the next 2 yrs if not earlier. My plans are centered around me, myself and my children only!!!  I know I can and will do it! I am very thankful for my ancestors and my spiritual guides for they are the only friends and supporters I need.
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid102599
Post by: Kindomba on Jan 07, 2014, 01:49 AM
Well that's depressing.

QuoteObadele Kambon;46761 wrote: Also have a concrete plan (that doesn't require the support of Black people (especially "conscious" Black people with supposed ideological or racial allegiances)).
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid102603
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 07, 2014, 06:24 AM
@Kindomba, reality sometimes is

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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Jan 07, 2014, 06:29 AM
The original idea in this thread from @Akua Ma'at is a good one since we have a new crew of members interested in repatriation like @Kindomba and @NKO. Y'all/we could use the forums here and the classroom to share updates, plans, resources, kwk.

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Post by: Kw@ku M3nsa on Feb 02, 2015, 07:33 AM
I plan on repatriating as well I would love to join in on cooperative efforts.
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Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Feb 04, 2015, 06:09 PM
There's a member @Yaw Agbede who is a very recent repatriate who may be able to give you some input on newly repatriating and some of the challenges or just things to know in general.
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Post by: kwaku omowale on Sep 03, 2016, 03:50 AM
Mekyea wo,

I hope we can keep this thread alive for those of us still to come. If anyone has more tips, please share.

Does anyone have an idea about how long $10k or $50k (USD) would last in Ghana or Liberia? Does anyone have any knowledge on gaining citizenship in Liberia?

Kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199139
Post by: Nana on Sep 04, 2016, 07:41 AM
Here's my 2 cents.
Having repatriated  to Tanzania this July I had to keep reminding myself that no matter what I encounter in TZ. -- I if I made it in united snakes with the constant allostatic load under the brutal repression of the Krakkka state-- I sho as hell can make it in TZ without it.

Scope out a safe landing pad. Don't try to over plan. Don't put you cash into buying land now. You don't have a good way of knowing a good deal or even if you want to settle where that parcel is.

Clean up your life in the united snakes so you have very little or no expenses ongoing in united snakes. Put whatever $ you can in your pocket. Sell, or give away or donate--get rid of your stuff,  pack all you can afford to carry on the plane and lift.

Plan on living like an Kmtyw not an expatriate.

Do the right thing, don't worry. Know you are home now. Plan on having to work just as hard to make it on the continent as you do now in the united snakes. 🏿🏾

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Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199150
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Sep 04, 2016, 09:31 AM
Quotekwaku omowale;199011 wrote: Mekyea wo,

I hope we can keep this thread alive for those of us still to come. If anyone has more tips, please share.

Does anyone have an idea about how long $10k or $50k (USD) would last in Ghana or Liberia? Does anyone have any knowledge on gaining citizenship in Liberia?

Kwaku
It really depends on what you use the money for. You can blow it all on one car or one investment in a day. You can whittle it away on rent and living expenses but all that depends on how you want to live (i.e. with or without the jacuzzi).
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199151
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Sep 04, 2016, 09:32 AM
QuoteNKO;199139 wrote: Here's my 2 cents.
Having repatriated  to Tanzania this July I had to keep reminding myself that no matter what I encounter in TZ. -- I if I made it in united snakes with the constant allostatic load under the brutal repression of the Krakkka state-- I sho as hell can make it in TZ without it.

Scope out a safe landing pad. Don't try to over plan. Don't put you cash into buying land now. You don't have a good way of knowing a good deal or even if you want to settle where that parcel is.

Clean up your life in the united snakes so you have very little or no expenses ongoing in united snakes. Put whatever $ you can in your pocket. Sell, or give away or donate--get rid of your stuff,  pack all you can afford to carry on the plane and lift.

Plan on living like an Kmtyw not an expatriate.

Do the right thing, don't worry. Know you are home now. Plan on having to work just as hard to make it on the continent as you do now in the united snakes.

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Great input there Dr. NKO! Asante sana!
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199183
Post by: kwaku omowale on Sep 04, 2016, 10:18 PM
Medase.

Does Tanzania offer citizenship or other rights to Kmtyw people born in the US? I have seen 3 people on this site to go there.

I will not buy land immediately. I have been looking for an amount needed to save for land, home, and transportation. I plan to be in it for the long haul (life).

Thank you again,
Kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199184
Post by: kwaku omowale on Sep 04, 2016, 10:28 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;199150 wrote: It really depends on what you use the money for. You can blow it all on one car or one investment in a day. You can whittle it away on rent and living expenses but all that depends on how you want to live (i.e. with or without the jacuzzi).

Mekyea wo Dr. Kambon,

I plan to live without the jacuzzi, at least for week one. I saw that the Kantanka is about $30k (usd), a home could be about $20 - $30k, and I am still looking into land prices and rules. UG tuition plus room and board is listed at about $7.5k (usd) per year. These are the things I would like to invest in.

I am looking to get a general idea for planning.

Kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199300
Post by: Yaw Abebrese on Sep 05, 2016, 06:30 PM
You sound worry...are you?  Have you connect with likeminded repatriate in TZ?  Do you have connections in TZ?:blacklove::pyramid:
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Post by: kwaku omowale on Sep 05, 2016, 08:39 PM
Yaw Abebrese,

I do not think worried is the right word for now. I am in the beginning of my planning, and only knew of 3 places to go in Kmt. I would like to focus on finding where to go and where we are welcomed asap.

I have no contacts in Tanzania or in any other Kmtyw country. I hope to try and meet more people.

Kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199312
Post by: Nana on Sep 05, 2016, 10:40 PM
What do you mean by welcomed?  I can assure you if you bring $ you will be welcomed anywhere.  

Last time I checked Obadele and I live on the continent.

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Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid199432
Post by: kwaku omowale on Sep 06, 2016, 08:49 PM
Hello NKO,

I mean welcomed to be a citizen, have permanent residency, or something similar to Ghana's right of abode law. Thanks for the heads up. I will work on the money thing.:blacklove:

If I can use you as a contact, I would greatly appreciate knowing how Kmtyws born in the US are welcomed in Tanzania.

Kwaku
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Post by: Nana on Oct 10, 2016, 05:13 PM
after seven years of residency a repatriate may apply for citizenship. I'll let you know in 2023 how it's going.
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Post by: kwaku omowale on Oct 20, 2016, 02:57 AM
Mekyea wo (hello) NKO,

I hope to start my residency by then.

See you soon

Akyire
Medase
Kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid204495
Post by: Nana on Oct 20, 2016, 03:14 AM
Residency comes in two year bites. Relatively easy to get and as of now will Cost you about $1500 to $4k or so including the chai you will have to pay to get things done. Depends on what category of residency you seek. You need a work permit and a residency permit. It can take months to get done. Most go for volunteer status.

You are not joining a club but a country. There are 50 million people here of all walks of life. You will have to find your niche.

Life is a lot less costly to live. You can make it with a small fraction of what it takes to make it in the states.

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Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid243621
Post by: kwaku omowale on Aug 02, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mekyea mo!

Does anyone have any more advice about repatriating to Kmt?

Can anyone share how he/she found a job, what opportunities exist for repatriates, or how to start a company in your area? Can anyone discuss things needed to be taken with you or where you found your information to repatriate.
 @NKO you mentioned selling everything before you leave, but later stated that you regretted selling certain items because those items are very expensive in Tanzania. I was planning on the sell everything approach. Can you state any details about what you would ship to Tanzania if you could have done it?

Meda ase nyinaa,
kwaku
Title: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid243625
Post by: Nana on Aug 02, 2017, 03:45 AM
High quality items are available here in Tz but always at a premium price. Some brands are unavailable.

When you sell things in united snakes you always get pennies on the dollar. Tanzania has a deal where you can bring in your personal effects which can include some new items duty free for up to one year provided you have a resident permit.

Purchasing a small 20 foot shipping container loading your furniture appliances books and clothes and kitchen items, tools etc. basically what you have at home then storing it would have saved us much money time and grief.

You need a trusted friend /agent in the united snakes. To make sure things are properly handed to the united snakes shippers.

Good deals can be had for entire shipping containers.   Plus you have a already made storage room once your things arrive.

The power grid is poor here and the voltage fluctuates so much you will want your own voltage stabilization and transformer/ inverter system anyway. Thereby you can use equipment of any voltage.

More later
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Post by: Nana on Aug 14, 2017, 03:57 AM
Make the distinction between voltage stabilizers, voltage transformers and inverter systems. The minimum you need is a stabilizer to protect your equipment from voltage fluctuations in the power grid but that keeps you dependent on the grid. Inverter/ battery systems allow you to keep functioning when the grid goes down yet charge your batteries from the grid if you choose.

Inverters and charge controllers are much more expensive but very important to have and should probably be well investigated for discount purchase in the us for later shipping to the continent.

Batteries are needed for use with your inverter. Inverter systems give the cleanest most consistent power for your sensitive electrical equipment. solar cells and source switches to control your power input can be added later. They allow you to choose between the grid vs your batteries/solar cells. Switches can be automatic programmable vs manual (much less costly)

The new lithium battery systems are very expensive but offer potentially much greater useful life than lead acid batteries which are subject to permanent damage if you let them completely discharge.

Plan for expansion and try to get a greater capacity than you think you will initially need. Clean reliable electricity will save you much money and aggravation from burned out electrical equipment that won't be backed by warranty here in Kmt. The cost of new refrigerators pumps printers power tools water heaters monitors/tv add up.

Fortunately most portable computers and other electronics are designed to run on 100-240 volts so you don't have to worry about brown outs damaging them(assuming your grid is a nominal 240v). At worst you may have to replace your ac converter.

Some people spend as much on their power systems as they do on their car keep that in mind when you're planning your budget. Also keep in mind that as technology advances the cost will come down. This is especially true with solar cells. Charge controllers inverters and voltage stabilizers are older technologies.

Having said all that cheap non expandable solar systems providing up to 140-200 watts are available from multiple companies here in Tanzania on a lease to own basis that will allow you to charge your phone and laptop, run a small flat screen tv and a few low watt lights. Refrigeration and water heating are other issues.

LPG gas is the least expensive way to cook and widely available in Tanzania. More on that later.
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Post by: Maame Efua on Sep 10, 2017, 06:11 PM
I just posted a thread on this...my case is slightly different as I'm a continental Kmtyw...still very difficult though... especially if you have a family of evil WWTD(white world terror domination) agents, using radical Christianity as their weapon...

I want to move to GH in the next 2-3years.

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Title: RE: Timeline to Repatriation-gctid261442
Post by: Brianna Milord on Nov 30, 2018, 05:55 PM
Hi all!

My name is Brianna Milord, a writer working on a story about repatriation to Ghana. I'm wondering...is anyone is in the process or heavily considering relocation within the next 6 months to a year? 

I posted this question to a couple of message boards, so my apologies if it pops up on you.