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Afrikan Liberation Institute => Spirituality => Topic started by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Dec 14, 2011, 12:35 AM

Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47721
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Dec 14, 2011, 12:35 AM
Falokun Fatunmbi (David Wilson), who has written several books on Ifa and the Orishas, has been declared a fraud... by his own lineage (including his initiators) in Ode Remo. A council of 21 elders, including the aAmwa (the eldest Babalawo), have declared that he was partially initiated under the understanding that he was doing it to write books on the religion, not to work as a Babalawo. They state clearly that he had no authority to initiate anyone to Ifa or any Orisha. They state that he did not have the training or permission to even see anyone with Ifa.
It's interesting to note that at the end of their proclamation, they stated clearly that he had no power to declare himself superior to anyone in the Diaspora.
You can go here to read the declaration in full:
http://www.ileifeorunmilla.com/exposingthefraudintraditionalifa/falokunsreallineage.html (http://www.ileifeorunmilla.com/exposingthefraudintraditionalifa/falokunsreallineage.html)
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47722
Post by: Okomfo Akosua on Dec 14, 2011, 12:52 AM
This is a FINE example of why he should have NEVER been given or shown anything!!!!!
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47726
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Dec 14, 2011, 01:19 AM
Ɔkɔmfo Akosua, magye atom'
N'akyerɛkyerɛfo nyinaa hia abakɔsɛm ho adesua. Ɛbaa no sɛn sɛ wɔtumi hunu Ifa nyinaa mu, nanso wɔanhunu sɛ oburoni suban yi bɛte saa (te sɛ aborɔfo nyinaa a wɔbaa Abibiman da)? Sunsum ho nimdeɛ nni abakɔsɛm ho nimdeɛ a, ɛyɛ ɔkwa.
(I agree. His teachers need a history lesson. How did it come about that they know so much about Ifá, but they couldn't see that this òyìnbó's character would end up being like that (like all the other òyìnbó who've ever come to Kmt)? If "spiritual" knowledge isn't combined with historical knowledge, it doesn't amount to much)
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47728
Post by: Agya Yaw on Dec 14, 2011, 01:48 AM
What took them so long to take any action? Looks like this is the first time anything was said/done unless there's something I'm missing here?
:gyenyame:
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47729
Post by: Agya Yaw on Dec 14, 2011, 01:52 AM
Oh and when are we going to wise up and stopped being used by others and use our culture against others for our freedom and prosperity.
:gyenyame:
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47730
Post by: Akua Ma'at on Dec 14, 2011, 04:19 AM
Is this person a member at abibitumikasa? Hope not given his display of poor character.

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Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47732
Post by: Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé on Dec 14, 2011, 08:48 AM
Dabi o, oyi yɛ oburoni a ɔdaadaa Abibifoɔ de kyerɛ sɛ ìwà-pẹ̀lẹ́=ìwà rere.
Yɛkaa ho asɛm wɔ ha: Iwa-Pele: gentle character - Assata Shakur Speaks - Hands Off Assata - Let's Get Free - Revolutionary - Pan-Kmtywism - Black On Purpose - Liberation - Forum (http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/traditional/135-iwa-pele-gentle-character.html)

No this is the yt who deceives Kmtyws into thinking that ìwà-pẹ̀lẹ́=ìwà rere.
We spoke about this here: Iwa-Pele: gentle character - Assata Shakur Speaks - Hands Off Assata - Let's Get Free - Revolutionary - Pan-Kmtywism - Black On Purpose - Liberation - Forum (http://www.assatashakur.org/forum/traditional/135-iwa-pele-gentle-character.html)
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47733
Post by: Akua Ma'at on Dec 14, 2011, 11:53 AM
nuff said. WHY do we insist on still allowing them access to us, our traditions, spiritual systems kwk??? Are we that thick in the skull or is it a matter of simple ignore-ance of our history? They have NO PLACE in our spiritual traditions and should never be allow anywhere near them.

QuoteObadele Kambon;47732 wrote:
No this is the yt who deceives Kmtyws
Title: David Falokun Fatunmbi Fatunmise Wilson's Real lineage-gctid47742
Post by: Agbede on Dec 14, 2011, 05:24 PM
QuoteObadele Kambon;47726 wrote: Ɛbaa no sɛn sɛ wɔtumi hunu Ifa nyinaa mu, nanso wɔanhunu sɛ oburoni suban yi bɛte saa (te sɛ aborɔfo nyinaa a wɔbaa Abibiman da)? Sunsum ho nimdeɛ nni abakɔsɛm ho nimdeɛ a, ɛyɛ ɔkwa.

Wɔgye aborɔfo di sen Ifa.
 
They believe in krakkkers more than Ifa.