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The     Most Powerful Man in the World?

The "Black" Pope

Count     Hans Kolvenbach -- The Jesuit's General

4/15/00 RICK MARTIN
    The SPECTRUM Newspaper, May 2000

So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the     main players on the "conspiracy" playing field? You've maybe been hearing     for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society      who control our world from behind the scenes.
     You've gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the     Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word "Jew" to disguise their adopted      heritage, as distinguished from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by      the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by      the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the     Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called "elite"      families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and      Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure     of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated,      other-dimensional "master deceivers" commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and      their "fallen angel" cohorts.
     While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger      Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link      in this entire structure. And I don't mean a little side issue; I mean a     link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so      long—that even the most studied of "conspiracy theory" scholars probably      have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented      here.
     To call the following outlay "controversial" and "sensitive" is about as      mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This      missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!
     After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able      to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday,     March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric's historic masterpiece      spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask questions covering      huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us almost four hours      to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another      forty.
     We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the      importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In      fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent      backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the      interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will      help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important      and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.
     Let's call this story the "Jesuit-Vatican connection" to the unfolding      New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely      central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There's a good reason the      secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from      outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a      collection of information detailing much "censored" data about our true,      otherworldly cultural heritage.
     When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can't help but      reflect back on the purposely "adjusted" and watered down and boring moments      in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has      gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.
     In this business, I've heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to      pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain historical      portions in Eric's book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is      stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we've been led to      believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the      pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.
     This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve      such general attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the      publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this      most astonishing and critically important material here in The      SPECTRUM.
     We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions. And there      is probably no more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous      notions-shattering example of that than what is being presented here. The      interview is directly followed by a number of pertinent excerpts from Eric's      eye-opening book—which will be available July 1.
     [Editor's note: It should be noted up-front that the information      presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at      The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his historical      research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has been presented      by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And that is good; Truth      is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh.
     However, for the peace of mind of our unique readership—which      typically has cultivated a more aware spiritual perspective than the general      public—we do not want to give the impression that we agree with (or wish to      promote) some collateral aspects of Eric's presentation having to do with      his personal "religious" convictions. The focus of those convictions follows      a much more biblically conventional (literal) path—in stark contrast to the      unconventional, questioning, wide-angle vision of his historical      material.
     Generally such opinions are simply allowed to stand on their own—for      you to sort and interpret as you see fit—rather than being singled-out to be      addressed editorially. However, in this case, the practical side of Eric's      stated religious convictions include the condoning of some degree of      violence (or violent protest) and use of armaments. And such convictions are      very much the opposite of our philosophical position—for many reasons, not      the least of which is the obvious Adversarial bait-and-entrapment which      would result from choosing what we would consider to be low-frequency      responses to schoolroom Earth's current challenges.
     Yet, if the perceptive reader penetrates "between the lines"      thoughtfully, there is glimpsed a recurring commendable spiritual message in      Eric's commentary—of "Have the courage to speak The Truth" and "God helps      those who help themselves"—which we certainly DO agree with wholeheartedly      and have long supported enthusiastically.
     We are in the time of the Great Awakening on this planet. The Light of      Truth, intensifying with each passing moment, is nudging many to step      forward and share what they know. Will such ones follow that nudge or      continue to hide in fear? The answer to that question is perhaps the most      important aspect of schoolroom Earth's relentless testing at this critical      time.
     One last-minute footnote before beginning this interview: The Arts      & Entertainment (A&E) cable television channel just started to      air—on Easter Sunday evening!—a new two-hour documentary called: The      Vatican Revealed. Tape it so you can study it carefully; within the lines      of dialog and some of those people chosen for commentaries are many, many      clues to the true power of the Vatican over world affairs. It would, of      course, be much more revealing to watch the A&E program AFTER having      read and digested the following.]
     
     Martin: Before we begin, let me say a few words. The topic of your      book is so comprehensive and covers, literally, all aspects of global      control by the Jesuits, dating back to 1540. I would like to begin our      conversation with a very important point of clarification so that our      readers have something to hold onto while reading the historical narrative      we are about to present. Let me also add that your book is one of the most      compelling, dynamic, genuinely educational historical documents I have ever      read. I want to tell you, I am impressed!
     You, literally, link every major global conflict and political      assassination to the hands of the Jesuit Order. The Jews, as with many other      groups you mention, have been the unwitting pawns in this Jesuit Agenda.
     Today, the present. I'm going to start here, and then we're going to go      way back in time and work our way up. But, I want to start HERE because it      will give a foundation for going back in time.
     Today, who is the Superior General of the Jesuits, the so-called "Black      Pope" [black here refers to hidden, evil activities, not to race or      color] who gives the orders to the actual Pope. Is it still Jean-Baptist      Janssens?
     Phelps: Janssens, Frenchman. No, he passed away in 1964. Then      Pedro Arrupe came to power. Then, after Arrupe died, in 1988, I believe, the      present Jesuit General is Count Hans Kolvenbach. [See photo nearby.]      I call him Count Hans Kolvenhoof.
     Martin: Let's discuss this position of "General" and, in addition,      who is this person, Count Hans Kolvenbach? Who does he serve? What are his      origins? Where does he hail from?
     Phelps: The present General is a Dutchman, his nationality is      Dutch.
     Martin: Where is he? Physically, where is he?
     Phelps: He resides in Rome, at the headquarters of the Jesuits,      called the Church of Jesu. So, the Jesuit General resides in Rome at, what I      just called, the Jesuit headquarters.
     Martin: The Church of Jesu, is that near the Vatican?
     Phelps: It's not far from the Vatican, right. It's in the same      general area. It's headquarters of the Knights of Malta.
     Martin: Is it part of Vatican City, proper?
     Phelps: Right, I believe, yes it is.
     Martin: Where does Satan fit into this picture, and what is the      ultimate goal of the Jesuits, the so-called Society of Jesus?
     Phelps: The Jesuit General, and the other high Jesuit Generals,      they are sorcerers. They are Luciferians, and they worship what they would      call Lucifer. They do not believe in Satan. They believe in Lucifer.
     Now, according to Alberto Rivera, he was invited—because he was a top      Jesuit at the time in the late '60s—he was invited to a "Black Mass" in      Spain where there were quite a few top Jesuit Generals present. And he      called it a "Black Mass". Well, when you're involved in a "Black Mass",      you're involved in the worship of Lucifer, all dressed in their black capes      and so on.
     Martin: I'm fascinated by Count Hans Kolvenbach because nobody in      the world knows who this person is. I've never heard the name.
     Phelps: Let me just tell you that you can see his picture and his      top Jesuits—just a second and I'll get the book. The name of the book is      called Jesuits: A Multi-Biography, by Jean Lacoutre, and that is      available, usually, in the bookstores. It was published in 1995.
     Jean Lacoutre is a Frenchman. He was a communist, is a communist. On the      last page of the pictures in it, that is right adjacent to page 343, you see      Peter Hans Kolvenbach. He's the Jesuit General, and he looks like just a      very evil individual. There's a Black man, who's a high Jesuit, he's a 29      Superior Jesuit with his cosmopolitan General staff. One of the General      staff looks like Ben Kingsley of Shindler's List. There are six White      men, and one Black man. And that's his General staff.
     Martin: What is the process of choosing a successor General?
     Phelps: The High Jesuits elect him, and he's elected for      life—unless he becomes a "heretic".
     Martin: And the so-called "High Jesuits" represent what group?
     Phelps: I would say that they're the "professed", the high 4th      Degree. When a Jesuit is professed, he is under the Jesuit Oath; he      is under the "Bloody Oath" that I have in my book.
     Martin: Do we have permission to reprint that Oath in our      paper?
     Phelps: Of course, absolutely.
     Martin: One of my questions has to do with the Oath and      it's similarity to the Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion, and I      wrote that question before I got back to the Protocols portion of      your book.
     Phelps: The Jesuits obviously wrote the Protocols because      they have carried out every protocol in that little handbook. They have      carried everything out. And, Alberto Rivera says—and he was a Jesuit—he was      greatly maligned, not helped at all by the Apostate, Protestants, and      Baptists in this country; he was helped, somewhat, by Jack Chick. Jack Chick      published his story in six volumes, titled Alberto I, II, III, IV, V,      & VI.
     Alberto Rivera says that it was Jews aligned with the Pope who published      the Protocols. Well, I tend to feel that it was just the Jesuits      themselves because they, and they alone, were the ones who were able to      bring this to pass.
     They're the ones in the government. They're the ones behind professional      sports. The owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers is a Knight of Malta. The owner      of the Detroit Lions is a Knight of Malta. All your top owners of these ball      clubs, for the most part, are Knights of Malta, getting the people whooped      up in this hoopla over games and sports, while they're busy creating a      tyranny. So, that was one of the things in the Protocols—that they      would create "amusements".
     Another one they used was Walt Disney, 33rd-degree Freemason—Disneyworld,      Disneyland. Another one was Milton Hersey, with Hersey Park. They create all      of these amusements and games and pastimes to get the people drunk with      pleasure, while they're busy overthrowing the Protestant form of      government.
     Martin: Where does Las Vegas factor into all of this?
     Phelps: Las Vegas, well, for the most part, is controlled by the      Mafia. But all the high Mafia families are Roman Catholic, and they are ALL      subordinate to the Pope or to the Cardinal of New York, which is Cardinal      O'Connor—because the Commission, the Mafia Commission resides in New      York.
     Frank Costello was a member of the Mob Commission, and he was intimate,      personal friends with Knight of Malta, Hollywood mogul, Joe Kennedy. And      that has not changed.
     So, the High Knights are good, dear brothers with the High Mafia Dons—the      Gambinos, the Lucchese, the Columbos, all of them. And they control      Hollywood, not the Jews. It's only Jews who are front-men who are involved      in Hollywood and working for the Mafia and for the Cardinal, just like in      politics it would be Arlen Spector. Arlen Spector was Spelly's [Cardinal      Spellman's] Jew in the assassination [of President Kennedy], and      he would never say a word about it.
     Martin: Now, as we go through here, if there's anything that you      don't want me to print, please let me know because, literally, I'm going to      print everything we say in this conversation.
     Phelps: That's fine, that's fine with me because it needs to be      said.
     Martin: Let's get back to Count Hans Kolvenbach. I want to shine      the spotlight on this guy for just a little bit here. Let's talk about him.      What does he do? Who is he? Let's talk about his position as "General". How      do they exercise this control over the Pope? Does the Pope know he's a      pawn?
     Phelps: Ok, one question at a time. So, which question do you want      me to deal with?
     Martin: Let's just shine the light right on the Count.
     Phelps: The Jesuit General, ok.
     Martin: Let's start there, and you tell me everything you want to      tell me about that position.
     Phelps: The Jesuit General is the absolute, complete, and total      dictator and autocrat of the Order. When he speaks, his provincials move.      The provincials are his major subordinates. There are around 83 provincials      right now.
     As I understand it, the Jesuit Order has divided the world into 83      regions. Ok? For each region, there is a Jesuit provincial. There are 10      provincials in the United States. There is one for Central America. There is      one for Ireland. They've divided up the world into these provinces.
     So it's old Babylonian provincial government, centered in Nebuchadnezzar      or the Jesuit General himself; so it's strictly a Roman form of government      where all the states or provinces are subordinate to this worldwide      sovereign.
     The Jesuit General exercises full and complete power over the Order. He      meets with his provincials. When they decide to start a war or an agitation,      he gets the information from the provincial of that country, how best to go      about this, the demeanor of the people, and then he uses legitimate      grievances to foam an agitation—like the 1964 Civil Rights Movement. That      was ALL a Jesuit agitation, completely, because the end result was more      consolidation of power in Washington with the 1964 Civil Rights Act that was      written by [the longtime President of the University of Notre Dame, the      Reverend] Theodore Hesburgh.
     The Jesuit General rules the world through his provincials. And the      provincials then, of course, rule the lower Jesuits, and there are many      Jesuits who are not "professed", so many of the lower Jesuits have no idea      what's going on at the top. They have no concept of the power of their      Order.
     It's just like Freemasonry. The lower Freemasons have no idea that the      High Shriner Freemasons are working for the Jesuit General. They think that      they're just doing works and being good people. But the bottom line is that      the high-level Freemasons are subject, also, to the Jesuit General because      the Jesuit General, with Fredrick the Great, wrote the High Degrees, the      last 8 Degrees, of the Scottish Rite Freemasonry when Fredrick protected      them when they were suppressed by the Pope in 1773.
     So, you have the alignment with the Jesuit Order and the most powerful      Freemason they had in the craft, Fredrick the Great, during their      suppression. That is an irrefutable conclusion. And then, when you see the      Napoleonic Wars, the French Revolution and the Napoleonic Wars carried out      by Freemasonry, everything Napoleon did, and the Jacobins, whatever they      did, completely benefited the Jesuit Order.
     It's to this end that Alexander Dumas wrote his The Count Of Monte      Cristo. The Count is the Jesuit General. Monte=Mount, Cristo=Christ. The      Count of the Mount of Christ. Alexander Dumas was talking about the Jesuit      General getting vengeance when the Jesuits were suppressed, and many of them      were consigned to an island, three hours sailing, West, off the coast of      Portugal. And so, when the Jesuits finally regained their power, they      punished all of the monarchs of eureurasia who had suppressed them, drove them      from their thrones, including the Knights of Malta from Malta, using      Napoleon.
     And Alexander Dumas,who fought for the Italian patriots in      1848, to free Rome from the temporal power of the Pope, wrote many books and      one of the books was to expose this, and that was The Count Of      Monte Cristo.
     So, when you read that book, bear in mind that it's really a satire on      the Jesuit Order regaining their power in France. The Count of Monte Cristo      has an intelligence apparatus that can't be beat. Well, that's the Jesuit      Order.
     But the Count doesn't get what he really ought to have, or his last wish,      and that's the love of woman. He gains back all of his political power; he      gains back everything he lost; but he doesn't have the love of a woman. And      THAT is the Jesuit Order. They have no women. They have no love of a woman.      Because to have a wife, to have a woman, means you have an allegiance to      your wife and family, and you cannot obey the General. That's why they will      NEVER be married, and that's one of the great KEYS to their success.
     They can betray a nation and walk away. They can betray all the Irish      Catholics getting on the Titanic, and walk away. They can betray us      in Vietnam and walk away. They can betray us every time we go to the      hospital and get radiated and cut and drugged, and walk away, because it's      "for the greater glory of God"—Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam: the greater glory of      the god who sits in Rome.
     Martin: What is the ULTIMATE goal of the Jesuits?
     Phelps: Their ultimate goal is the rule of the world, with the      Pope of their making, from Solomon's rebuilt Temple in Jerunited snakeslem. That's      their ultimate goal.
     Martin: And why is Solomon's Temple rebuilt so important?
     Phelps: Because the Jesuits have always wanted that. When Ignatius      Loyola first started the Order, one of the first things he did was, he      wanted to go to Jerunited snakeslem and set up the Jesuit headquarters there. So, he      went there, he tried to do it and failed, came back, went to school, started      his Latin studies, etc. Maybe it might be a good idea to just review a      little bit about Ignatius Loyola.
     Martin: Yes.
     Phelps: Ok, Ignatius Loyola was a Spanish soldier, and he was      wounded at a battle between the French and the Spanish, and his leg was      shattered. Well, the French General, because Loyola was very brave in      conflict, ordered his own doctors to attend Loyola. So they set the leg and      sent him back to his home—which, of course, he was royalty to the Counsel of      Loyola in Spain, in the area of the Basques.
     Loyola, through his series of desiring to regain his leg—it had healed      improperly, so he made a rack where he would stretch the leg, with severe,      horrible, awful pain—and trying to stretch this leg to get it back to normal      shape, he endured awful, terrible pain. He had it rebroken, again, a couple      of times and it still did not heal properly, so he had a perpetual limp. He      could no longer be the courtier among women, and as a result, he went into      this depression, and he then had this vision of the saints, etc., etc., and      he wrote his spiritual exercises.
     I will stop at the spiritual exercises, just for a minute, but I'll take      up from there. Loyola then wanted to form an army, but when this happened      with his spiritual exercises, those spiritual exercises would be basic      training for all of his Jesuits. That's what they will ALL go through.      That's what every Jesuit goes through today.
     One of the maxims of the spiritual exercises is that if my superior says      "black is white and white is black", then that's the way it is. That is in      his spiritual exercises. That is what is quoted in JFK, when Kevin      Costner is telling his people: "Hey, people, we've got to start thinking      like the CIA. Black is white and white is black." That was a Jesuit giveaway      that the Jesuits produced that movie, because they're quoting Ignatius      Loyola in that movie from his spiritual exercises.
     So, Loyola had an indomitable will. He had a will of steel, and he set      his mind to regain back what the Papacy had lost to the Reformation. And so,      he went to the Pope, and the Pope in 1540 then created the Jesuit Order. But      this man is a soldier, he's a lawyer, and he put together a legion of      soldiers and warriors to get back what Rome had lost, as well as institute a      World Government for the Pope, from Jerunited snakeslem. This was in 1540.
     He started the Order in 1536. He was arrested by the Inquisition, and he      was released, and he went to the Pope; he threw himself at the feet of the      Pope. He would be completely at his service. The Pope chartered him, and      that Pope was Pius III. The Pope chartered them, created the Jesuit Order;      now he has Papal protection, and they began their awful history of deeds of      blood. And war after war after war after war, they're all attributed to the      Jesuit Order in some way. Catholic nobles, with lots of money, donated      castles and schools and money to the Jesuit Order.
     Virtually everything they own has been given to them or stolen by them.      Of course, they stole all of the fortunes of the Jews in World War II. They      stole all their gold, all their assets and everything, whenever they went      into a country. What's just been released is NOTHING compared to what      they've taken.
     In Edmond Paris's book, printed by Ozark Publications, called The      Vatican Against eureurasia, it gets into great detail of what they did. It      calls it—the last 30 years of war is all attributable to the Jesuits, their      massacres of the Serbs and Jews, etc. But Edmond Paris did not understand      that the Jesuit General—and this is one of the most important points I want      to make about Von Kolvenbach—the Jesuit General is in complete control of      the international intelligence community: that's the CIA, the FBI, the KGB,      the Israeli Mossad, the German BND, the British SIS. The Jesuit General is      in COMPLETE CONTROL of the entire intelligence apparatus—FBI, every      bureaucratic agency in this country, all of it; he is in complete control of      it.
     So, whenever he wants to find something out about an individual, they put      in the Social Security number, and everything from all of the intelligence      apparatus kicks-in and he and his provincials can review everything about      that man. Credit cards, you name it, everything that's attached to Rome's      social security number, which FDR put upon us in 1933 with the help of      Spellman; at the time, I believe he was Archbishop, or maybe it was Cardinal      Hayes—but Rome was behind FDR in putting him in office.
     The couple of things that he did was implement social insecurity, the      income tax, and recognizing Joseph Stalin's bloody Jesuit USSR government.      So, with the giving of us the Social Security number, that is Rome's      number—that's why I refuse to use it—and that's why they want everybody      using it for everything: driver's license, tax return, credit card,      everything you do, that number is you and that number is Rome's number.
     Martin: Let me just back-up here for a minute. What comes to mind      is Louis Freeh, head of the FBI.
     Phelps: Roman Catholic, good altar boy. Probably a Knight of      Columbus; I can't prove it. But anybody with that kind of power has got to      be a Knight of Columbus.
     And the Knights of Columbus implement Jesuit politics. And Louis Freeh      was the one behind the Waco atrocity and the Oklahoma City bombing atrocity.      And his top sniper was a Japanese Roman Catholic named Lon Horiuchi.
     So, it's Roman Catholics in control, Knights in control of the FBI, who      carried out all of this killing. And those two men, Louis Freeh and Lon      Horiuchi are personally accountable to Cardinal O'Connorof      New York. And Cardinal O'Connor of New York is the most powerful Cardinal in      the country. He is the military vicar. And that's why Bush kissed his fanny      for going to Bob Jones, because Cardinal O'Connoris the King      of the American Empire. And he rules his Empire from that Palace, St.      Patrick's Cathedral, "the little Vatican".
     Martin: And is he in contact, do you think, with Kolvenbach?
     Phelps: Of course. O'Connor himself is not a Jesuit, but the      Jesuits are like the SS of the Catholic Church. They maintain order.
     And the ones closest to him who maintain order are the Jesuits of Fordham      University. Now, one of them—the head of Fordham University, I believe he is      an Irishman, is also a member of the CFR [Council on Foreign      Relations]. And I have that right here in the Annual Report of the CFR      of 1993. Those Jesuits at Fordham maintain semblance and rule over the      Cardinal in New York. And, of course, the powerful Jesuits of Fordham      include Avery Dulles and John Foster Dulles, one of the writers of the book      on the Second Vatican Council.
     Martin: Let's back-up now, let's go back. What's the Council of      Trent?
     Phelps: The Council of Trent was the response of Rome to the      Protestant Reformation. Remember—the Protestant Reformation brought us all      of the political liberty that we know of today. There's no such thing as      national sovereignty without the Reformation. There's no such thing as      private rights without the Reformation. There's no such thing as the Law of      Nations, as we know of it today, of Montesquieu and the others, without the      Reformation.
     So, when the Reformation came with their doctrines of salvation by grace      through faith alone, and that there was no need for the priesthood to go to      Heaven—that all we need is salvation in Christ, and Romans 1:17: the      righteous shall live by faith. When the Reformation came, it completely      stripped Rome of its spiritual power. The priests were no longer wanted      because the people were getting the word of God in a Bible,      specifically in Holland, England, and Germany. And so, with these great      revivals breaking forth and the Reformation happening, nations were breaking      away from the power of the Pope. The Holy Roman Empire was breaking up.      Charles V, the Emperor, resigned and became a monk and a gardener. So, the      Lord was moving mightily in breaking the power of the Holy Roman Empire,      started by Charlemagne and the Pope.
     Well, this was not good for Rome because they were losing lots of money.      The nations were not paying "Peter's pence" anymore, which today we call      "foreign aid" in this country. And so the Pope was very upset about his.
     What's he going to do? These nations are breaking away from us; they're      not under our temporal or spiritual power; and it's very important to      remember that the Pope claims two powers—spiritual and temporal—and with the      breaking of his spiritual power, he then lost his temporal power. In other      words, he no longer had the ability to rule the people through the king of      the country, because the king was breaking away, like Henry VIII.
     So, Henry VIII broke away from the Roman Church and formed the Church of      England; he no longer was subject to the Pope. This was happening in      England, in Germany, in Holland, and other places.
     As a result of this, the Devil raised up Ignatius Loyola with his      demonisms, his "spiritual exercises" and—because Loyola had been a member of      the Spanish Alumbrados,which is what we call the Illuminati      today, and he used the Jesuit Order to attempt to regain back what had been      taken by the Reformation—what the Lord had done through Luther, Calvin, and      Knox. And, by the way, Luther, Calvin, and Knox—none of those men died      violent deaths. They all lived to older age and died peacefully, amidst the      power of the Jesuit machinations.
     The Council of Trent consists of 25 Sessions. Those 25 Sessions accurse      and condemn all the doctrines of the Reformation. It condemns anybody who      does not believe that the literal Jesus Christ is in the host [holy      communion bread], and that his literal blood is in the wine. That's      called transubstantiation. Anybody who does not believe that is an accursed      anathema. Anybody who believes that their salvation is outside the Catholic      Church is accursed anathema. Anybody who believes in justification by grace      through faith—anathema, accursed. Anybody who believes that the Pope is not      the vicar of Christ—accursed, anathema. You see, all of these doctrines were      being put forth as a result of reading the Bible, which produced the      Reformation, and so the Jesuits accursed everything that the Reformers were      preaching. This is all in Law called the Council of Trent.
     In the 4th Session, which is probably the most important Session, the      Jesuits condemn freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and freedom of      conscience. So, no man has the right to choose his own religion; no man has      the right to publish what he feels is the truth; and no man has the right to      freedom of conscience.
     Those rights were secured by our Baptist/Calvinist forefathers in the      First Amendment. The man who wrote the First Amendment was      James Madison, who was a Baptist/Calvinist, and he was told by that      Baptist/Calvinist in Virginia, Doc. John Leland: "If you don't secure all      those rights, Virginia will not ratify the Constitution." Virginia      was a Baptist/Calvinist state.
     So, we have a warfare between the Council of Trent and the doctrines of      the Reformation, particularly as outlined by John Calvin in his      Institutes Of The Christian Religion. Calvin[1536]wrote      the Institutes Of The Christian Religion, he finished it when he was      27, and he dedicated it to the King of France. And because the Jesuits so      hated him, he was driven from France and he resided in Geneva to the day of      his death, when he became Governor of Geneva. It's Calvin and his      Institutes Of The Christian Religion vs. Loyola and his Council of      Trent, if you want it sewed-up in two major documents.
     Martin: Council of Trent was what year?
     Phelps: From 1545-1563, eighteen years. And Trent is a little town      in Italy. So, it was a Council that took place in the town of Trent,      Italy.
     The Presbyterian Westminster Confession And Faith that was      finished in 1648, after the 30 Years War, is another extension of Calvin's      Institutes, and is what the Church of Scotland and the      Covenanterswent by when they resisted the powers of Rome and      England. That document is a major document, and it's not the new      Westminster Confession, it's the old one of 1648, where they called      the Pope the man of sin, that Roman Anti-Christ, and they also denounced      anti-Christian tyranny.
     And that it is their duty, to use what they call "the sword of the      spirit", which is the Word of God, which we read in Ephesians, Chapter      6, and "the sword of just defense"—the gun, the sword.
     So, us Calvinists believe that there is a time for peace and a time for      war, and we do not refuse to go to the battlefield when it's necessary. It      was the Calvinists who gave us our political liberty in England with      Cromwell. He was a Calvinist and an independent Baptist. It was Calvinists      in Holland who gave the Dutch their political liberty, with William of      Orange, and later his son, Prince Maurice, and then later, in our great      country, when it was Washington, the Freemason who did not go into that      Masonic Lodge that last 30 years of his life—in his own words—who was a      Baptist and a Calvinist. He was baptized in the First Baptist Church of New      York by one of his captains, Pastor Gano, all surrounded by Calvinists.
     That's why they didn't surrender at Valley Forge; that's why, when they      were naked, when they went through the snow, barefoot, they endured that      because they were Bible-believing Calvinists and they refused to      submit to the tyranny of King George, who was controlled by the Jesuits.
     And that is the soul of our country. If we lose that soul, we've lost      everything. And those very same Baptists, in the Second Amendment,      secured their right to bear arms, because they secured the right, the "sword      of just defense". And the "sword of the spirit" is contained in the First      Amendment, the right to have the Bible never taken from them. The      two swords of Calvinism are secured in the First and Second      Amendments. Without those first two Amendments, all the others      are nothing.
     Martin: Well, I got to my question #2. So, let's go to #3 of the      seventy. (laughter)
     How does Shriner Freemason President Harry Truman's signing into law of      the Emergency War Powers Act of 1950 factor into the Jesuit Agenda?
     Phelps: First of all, Harry Truman, who the Japanese called "Dirty      Harry"—when they heard the movie Dirty Harry came out, they thought      it was a movie about Harry Truman, according to my Japanese pastor friend,      Daniel Fuji, who has passed away.
     Harry Truman was put in office by the Jesuits, the Pensergast Democratic      machine in Missouri.Harry Truman takes over after FDR's      murder, because he was murdered in the home of Bernard Baruch. When he did      that, he then finished up the war with the hoax called the dropping of the      nuclear bombs, to purposely create this greater hoax called the Cold War,      that would enable the Vatican to knock over country after country after      country, and replace the leaders with dictators, subordinate to the Pope.      That was the purpose of the Cold War.
     And so, when Harry Truman in 1950 signed into law the Emergency War      Powers Act, the Cold War was in full force. They were building bomb      shelters, etc. So the nation was in kind of a frenzy.
     When he signed this into law, it put the whole country under military or      martial law, and that's when the flags in every courtroom, state and      federal, began to be changed. And every state flag and every U.S. flag is      now trimmed in gold fringe. And whenever you see a flag trimmed in gold      fringe, that means that it is the flag of the Commander-in-Chief. Now, if      it's the state flag, it means that's the flag of the governor, as      Commander-in-Chief. And if it's the federal flag, or the national flag, more      correctly, it's the flag of the Commander-in-Chief in Washington.
     So, all your courts are nothing more than courts of military rule. They      all proceed with summary procedures. The jury has no power of jury      nullification. And they are simply enforcing the laws of the Empire, which I      call 14th Amendment America, which is a military-style, King of      England-style country. The courts are nothing more than courts of the king's      bench, as you can see in Blackstone's Commentaries.
     And the banks, as you walk into every bank, they all have a flag trimmed      in gold fringe. The bank is what England would call, in Blackstone's day,      the king's bank. So, we have the king's bank, and we have the king's bench.      And it's run according to military rule, according to Berkheimer's great      work Military Rule And Martial Law, published in 1914.
     When Harry Truman did this, there was a consummation of a great plan to      put us under the Emergency War Powers Act and, actually, a war rule.      "Daylight savings time" is what was called "war time". This country only      went to daylight savings time during World War II, and they called it, at      that time, war time. So, nothing's changed. We've never gone back to not      turning back our clocks. We're still on war time. The income tax is a war      tax. It was called a victory tax in 1942.
     So, people are paying a war tax, they're under war time, they're under an      emergency war powers act, and the courts are war courts.
     Martin: Regarding the assassination of President John Kennedy,      which could take this entire interview, you say that the      assassination was ordered by the Jesuit General, executed by Pope Paul VI,      and carried out by the "American Pope", Francis Cardinal Spellman—who, in      turn, used the Knights of Malta, Shriner Freemasons, Knights of Columbus,      and Mafia Dons, including the FBI and CIA, to carry out the order from Rome.      Would you explain why you believe your particular theory on the      assassination to be an accurate representation of the facts?
     Phelps: Sure. Alright, number one: The powers that be are properly      outlined [in his book], and proven through two centuries of showing      how it's all been put together. Now, as to why, I will be conservative and      stick with Fletcher Prouty's reasons, that he outlined in his JFK and      also his other book called The Secret Team.
     The reason why Kennedy was assassinated was he wanted to end the Vietnam      War, and he wanted to end the rule of the CIA. That begets two questions:      Did Rome want the Vietnam War? And, did Rome control the CIA? The answer is      yes on both counts.
     We know, on its face, that the Vietnam War was called "Spelly's      War"—Cardinal Spellman's war. He went over to the warfront many times and he      called the American soldiers the "soldiers of Christ". The man who was the      Commander of the American forces was a Roman Catholic, CFR member, possibly      a Knight of Columbus, I don't know, but he was General William      Westmoreland.
     So, Westmoreland was Cardinal Spellman's agent to make sure that war was      prosecuted properly. And another overseer of Westmoreland was Cardinal      Spellman's boy, Lyndon Baines Johnson. Lyndon Baines Johnson was a      33rd-degree Freemason. He was also part of the assassination, with J. Edgar      Hoover, another 33rd-degree Freemason.
     And Johnson went to Cardinal Spellman's death at St. Patrick's Cathedral,      and the picture can be seen in Cooney's work The American Pope. So,      Johnson was completely at the beck and call of Cardinal Spellman through      Cartha DeLoach, the 3rd-in-control of the FBI. According to Curt Gentry, in      his Hoover: The Man And The Secrets, DeLoachhad a      phone at his bedside direct to Johnson, and Johnson could call him anytime.      DeLoach was a Knight of Malta, subject to Spellman.
     Spellman wanted the Vietnam War, why? Spellman was controlled by the      Jesuits of Fordham. Why did the Jesuit General want the Vietnam War? The      people of Vietnam, the Buddhists, were unconvertible. They would not convert      to Catholicism. They didn't need Rome.
     There had been a Jesuit presence in Vietnam for centuries, so it had been      decided that about a million or so Buddhists would have to be "purged". They      would later continue this purge of Cambodia, with Pol Pot, and the purge is      yet for Thailand. It was a purging of Laos, Cambodia, and Vietnam of all      these Buddhists, just like they purged the Buddhists of China with Mao      Zedong, because Mao Zedong was completely controlled by the Jesuits. So,      they wanted the Vietnam War.
     The other thing is that Rome is in control of the drug trade. The Vatican      controls all of the drug trade—all of the heroin, all of the opium, all of      the cocaine, everything going around in Columbia.
     Columbia has a concordat with the Pope. A concordat is a treaty with the      Pope. Hitler had a concordat.Mussolini had a concordat.Francohad aconcordat. They want to set      up a concordat here, which was the reason for Reagan formally recognizing      the sovereign state of Vatican City in 1984. The greatest traitor we ever      had was Ronald Reagan.
     So, they had a concordat. Columbia has a concordat. Do you think that      drugs running out of Columbia, with a country that has a concordat with      Rome, is not controlled by Rome? If Rome didn't want the drug trade out of      Columbia, they'd end the concordat. The whole drug trade is run by high      Mafia families out of the country of Columbia, subject to the Jesuit      General.
     And the Jesuit General ran the Opium trade, a couple of centuries ago,      out of China. They ran the silk trade, the pearl trade. The movie      Shogun is but a slight scratching of the surface of the Jesuit "black      ships" that trafficked in all of this silk and pearls and gold and opals and      everything they could pull out of the East, including opium.
     The Vietnam War was to consolidate and control this huge massive      drug-trade that would inundate every American city with drugs, being brought      in by the CIA with their Air America, and then distributed by the      Trafficantefamily throughout the United States—Santos      Trafficante out of Miami.
     So we have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the drug trade. We      have the Mafia and the CIA working together in the assassination of      Kennedy.
     The first reason why the Jesuit General [at that time,      Jean-Baptist Janssens] wanted Kennedy out of the way was because he      was going to end the Vietnam War.
     The second reason is, he wanted to end the reign of the CIA, because the      CIA had betrayed him in the person of McGeorge Bundy, by not giving the      cover to the Cuban patriots to retake Cuba from that Roman Catholic,      Jesuit-trained, grease-ball bastard—he was a bastard, his father was a      Nazi—Fidel Castro.
     Kennedy was betrayed by the CIA at the Bay of Pigs invasion, which      sacrificed all the patriots on the shores of the Bay of Pigs there, so      Castro had no real opposition. This was the same tactic, used by the CIA and      the KGB at the top, working together with Angleton controlling it, in the      Hungarian Revolution, when the CIA fomented that revolution, and then      betrayed all of those patriots into the hands of the Soviet army and KGB,      which infuriated certain top CIA officials.
     It's the same tactic: you raise up a revolution and you sacrifice the men      who truly want to resist. When that happened, when McGeorge Bundy stopped      the air cover of the Bay of Pigs invasion, that ended that resistance to      Castro and it enthroned him into power. And, of course, it was meant to be      by the Jesuits because they HAD trained him. So now Kennedy looks bad. He's      got egg all over his face. What does he want to do? He signs a Memorandum,      according to Fletcher Prouty, and takes all of the power away from the CIA,      and gives it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
     The CIA was built by the Knights of Malta. One of the founders of the CIA      was "Wild" Bill Donovan,an Irish Roman Catholic, who are the      most fanatical, and his brother was a Dominican priest, Vincent. So, the CIA      was founded by this high Roman Catholic, the first head, to solidify the      Catholic or the Vatican control of it.
     I'm not against the Catholic people; I'm against Rome's hierarchy. The      American Catholic people know NOTHING of what's going on. And if they did,      there would be a march on St. Patrick's tomorrow morning. So, as I'm against      the hierarchy, I'm showing that Kennedy was against the Vietnam War, and he      was going to do away with the CIA.
     Well, the Jesuits had brought in all of their top Nazi SS soldiers into      the CIA because the Jesuits were using the SS to kill the Jews in eureurasia.      When the Einsatzgruppen went into Russia, the Jesuits followed with the SS      and purged Western Russia of all its Jews. That's why Stalin deliberately      killed 40,000 of his best officers. That's why he kicked out his best      generals, purged them, because he wanted to make sure that the Red Army      would lose with the advance of the German army, because following that would      come the SS and purge Russia of the Jews that Stalin so hated. And by the      way, justice is often poetic because Stalin's daughter married a Jew.
     Now, the CIA was composed of the SS. The CIA now was an arm—and the      intelligence arm—of the Vatican. The Knights of Malta were throughout. Casey      was a Knight of Malta. Angleton was a Knight of Malta. The Knights were      through and through. Angleton manned the "Vatican desk", and that is a desk      within the CIA that has a direct link to the Vatican.
     So, Kennedy wanted to end this "intelligence community". That was the end      of him.
     Thus for anyone attempting to end the CIA, and attempting to end the      Vietnam War, and also because he attacked the Jesuits' Federal Reserve Bank      by printing United States Notes, they got rid of him. They killed our only      Roman Catholic president.
     And it's another piece of poetic justice that a Roman Catholic—not      Protestants, like Harry Truman, FDR, and others—it's a Roman Catholic who      truly sought to resist the temporal power of the Pope in this country. And      in many ways, even though Kennedy was, in fact, a socialist and communist,      at least he resisted the temporal power of the Pope. And for that we should      be thankful and remember his name.
     But what have they done to his name? They've slammed it. They drag it      into the dirt. Every time you see it on TV, they parade before you his      womanizing, which I don't deny, but my goodness, can't we give him some      credit where credit is due? That's why they got rid of John F. Kennedy.
     And then, of course, as soon as he's assassinated, John McCone, the head      of the CIA, the following day goes to the White House and they reverse      Kennedy's Memorandum of reversing the Vietnam War and make a full-scale,      carte blache war.
     The CIA then is tremendously and heavily funded, because it was a CIA      war. And there they tried all of their new technology, their anti-gravity      machines, their men who they're trying to make like the "million-dollar      man". They tried out all their new technology in Vietnam. It was a great      experimental theater, and Kennedy knew this. He knew it, and he knew that      the American people had no idea what was going down, and he still tried to      resist it, against his father's warnings. Because his father was the most      powerful Knight of Malta in the Empire.
     Martin: Any theories on why they took out junior?
     Phelps: Yes. According to Tom Kuncle, in his publication, John F.      Kennedy, Jr. wanted to find his father's real killers, and he had the power      to publish the conclusion. So, they took him out right away. They would not      allow that to happen.
     Martin: Why haven't you been taken out?
     Phelps: Because I am immortal—until the Lord is done with me. I am      a Calvinist and a Baptist, and we believe in the sovereignty of God. And as      long as we are operating in His Will, they cannot touch us, regardless of      their power.
     Martin: Which is why we're having this conversation.
     Phelps: Which is why we're having the conversation. Don't think      for one moment they're not tapping this phone. They know this. The issue is      here. We're talking about a providential, sovereign God who wishes to move,      using second causes, men, just as the Devil does.
     The Devil always uses second causes, men. So, it's one group of men vs.      another group of men, and one path leads to evil, and the true, almighty God      leads to goodness.
     The problem is, with us, there are very few men who want to believe God      anymore. Nobody believes He can deliver anymore. It's just a handful of us      who say: "Well, we're going to do His Will; we're going to trust Him in His      Power."
     And like the Hebrews getting ready to be thrown into the fiery furnace of      Nebuchadnezzar, our God is able to deliver us. We're going to tell the      truth!
     Martin: Let's see here. I can throw away a lot of these questions.      So much of it seems, in a way, irrelevant to our current times because      there's so much going on now. But, good grief! I was just stunned to read in      your book of all the historical things that have happened as a result of      these evil people. You dedicated the book to four Roman Catholics who, I'm      sure, no one has ever heard of: Charles Chiniquy, Jeremiah Crowley, Emmett      McLaughlin, and Alberto Rivera. Why them?
     Phelps: Because those Roman Catholic men were priests; they left      the priesthood and told the truth about what was really happening. And all      four of them, except one, I think Emmett McLaughlin, paid with their life.      Chiniquy was the great exposer of the Jesuit assassination of President      Lincoln, when he wrote his masterpiece Fifty Years In The Church Of      Rome in 1886. He proves that Lincoln was assassinated by the Jesuits,      and that it was covered-up by our government at the time.
     Jeremiah Crowley: that priest was a great Irishman who came here and,      seeing the corruption of the Archdiocese in Chicago, that it was so corrupt,      he left it and exposed it. And, of course, he later came to Christ and      became a Bible-believer, which they would call a Protestant.      Protestants today don't believe the Bible. Protestantism of today is      an empty shell, it's nothing. But, back then, in 1912, they believed the      Bible.
     Crowley, then, exposed many things, and one of the things he exposed,      that helped me with this, was that he warned that the Jesuits, with their      Knights of Columbus—which, he says, the Knights of Columbus, named after      Columbus, who he tells us was a Spanish Jew and a pirate and a deflowerer of      young girls—that Columbus was no Christian.
     He has a tremendous section in his book on Columbus. That the purpose of      the Knights of Columbus was to fulfill Jesuitical politics, and part of      those politics was to restore the temporal power of the Pope because, you      remember, the Pope had lost that in 1870 and they wanted to get it back. And      they got it back with Mussoliniin 1929.
     Well, in the book that Crowley wrote in 1912, he says that Taft and Teddy      Roosevelt were all cow-towing to the Pope and the Cardinals of New York. And      he said they're going to use our military to restore the Pope's temporal      power around the world.
     And THAT was absolutely correct. That is American foreign policy.      And the Council of Trent is the American foreign policy of today. That's      what's going on in Serbia and Bosnia. It's the Council of Trent—the Jesuits      using the American Air Force to bomb those orthodox people to smithereens.      But, that was Crowley's great contribution.
     Next, Emmett McLaughlin wrote several books. He wrote The People's      Padre; he wrote Crime And Immorality In The Catholic Church,      showing that Catholic nations are more lawless and more criminal than      Protestant nations, and he proved it with statistics from the jails.
     Emmett McLaughlin also wrote another book called The Assassination Of      Abraham Lincoln, where he, again, shows that Lincoln was assassinated by      the Jesuits. So, Emmett McLaughlin came out of the Catholic Church. To my      knowledge, he never was born again. He never was saved, but he did tell the      truth. He married a nun, and lived a virtuous and honorable life after he      left.
     The last one was, of course, Alberto Rivera, who was greatly hated by the      Vatican because he was a very high Jesuit who came out and, in the late      '60s, about 1969, exposed the power of Rome in the ecumenical movement, that      Rome controlled Kathryn Kuhlman; that Rome controlled Billy Graham; that      Rome controlled, virtually, our government—Ronald Reagan.
     Reagan, when he took the Oath of Office, faced the obelisk, indicating      that this country will ultimately have a concordat. So, Alberto Rivera      converted to Christ, wonderfully, and he started a ministry called The      Anti-Christ Information Center, out of Los Angeles.
     They tried to kill him five times. A dentist jammed a needle up between      his teeth, trying to give him an infection in the brain. When he passed out,      about a year or so later, they couldn't figure it out. Everybody was praying      for him. And this was discovered when he went to another dentist. He had it      removed.
     He was pushed in front of a subway train. They tried five times to kill      the man, and finally he died, I believe, of cancer, in a hospital, about      three years ago. But these four wonderful, great, Catholic priests did their      best to expose the power of Rome and its attempts to destroy our sovereign,      Protestant, Bible-believing nation. And so, to them, I dedicate      it.
     Martin: What compelled you to write this book? What started it for      you?
     Phelps: I was always taught to be a patriot, a patriot first and      foremost—America first, and everybody else second. Later, when I came to      know the Lord, at 17, I realized the Bible taught the same thing—that      the Lord had instituted nations. The Lord never instituted world      governments; that's always the result of the Devil's working.
     So, being a patriot and a nationalist—believing in national sovereignty—I      was saved at 17, went into the Air Force, was garrisoned in a nuclear      weapons area for three years in Germany, came back and started to go to      Biblecollege.
     When I went toBible college, the issue of the      King James came up, as far as it being an archaic version. And that's      what I used and I had never given it a thought. Well, some were using NIV,      some NASB, and I thought: "Well, maybe it's just a modern version of what I      have here." And I thought: "Well, if they want to use that, that's fine, but      I'll use the King James."
     I found that the underlying Greek text for the King James, the      Textus Receptus, was the Greek text of the Reformation. It represents      95% of the existing manuscripts that we have today. The Greek text that      underlies all these other versions—there's a Westcott and Hort Greek text,      which I then discovered was really a conspiracy to adulterate the Textus      Receptus in England, led by Brooke Foss Westcott and Anthony Hort, who      were Maryolitors, Mary-worshippers.
     Later, I found out that they had invited Cardinal Newman to sit in on the      revision committee. Well, Cardinal Newman was a traitor to the Anglican      Church, with his Track 90, which blew-off the AnglicanChurch.      He then left England and he was then a Cardinal by Pius IX.
     So, here we have Cardinal Newman, and E. B. Pusey, had been invited to      sit on this revision committee, the end result being a Greek text that had      been produced that was pro-Jerome's Latin Vulgate. Jerome's      Latin Vulgate is the basis for the Jesuit's Reheims-Douay      text, that was put out in 1582, that was attempting to rival William      Tyndale's English text, which later became the King James Version of      1611.
     So now I see this awful Jesuit hand in my Bible college,      attempting to deprive me of the Word of God, the authorized version of 1611,      in it's present edition of 1769. Now I thought "Well, here the Jesuits are,      what else have they done?" And the next thing I was led to was the Lincoln      assassination. And I can remember reading Burke McCarty's The Suppressed      Truth About The Assassination Of Abraham Lincoln, and weeping in the      back room, when I was in college.
     Martin: For me, one of the most compelling portions of your book      was the series of revelations about Lincoln. I was stunned by that.
     Phelps: That's what they did. Remember, Lincoln was not going to      go along with the 14th Amendment. He wanted those Southern states to      re-enter the Union on the same footing that they had left, which would have      left us with a federal Republic as Washington had established it. This the      Jesuits would not allow. It would be converted into an Empire. The states      would be subordinate provinces to Washington. And the 14th Amendment      would accomplish this with the reversion of citizenship. And Lincoln was      re-elected, and he was ready to end this, and that's why they killed him.      Kennedy was ready to implement his things; they would not let him be      re-elected.
     Martin: This is a total aside. Have you ever come across The      Jefferson Bible?
     Phelps: The Jefferson Bible—and maybe you know this—is      Matthew, Mark, and Luke. And Thomas Jefferson, being the Deist, being the      pagan that he was, cut out all the supernatural from those three gospels.      Jefferson was a Deist; he was involved with the French Freemasons who were      involved in the French Revolution, and he was not here at the writing of our      Protestant Constitution. So, the Lord put him out of the picture.      Jefferson was just used to help with the Revolution—because the Lord does      use the unGodly for good things. But Jefferson copied much of the      Declaration Of Independence from the Mechlenburg Declaration,      written by Calvinistic Presbyterians of North Carolina, when they seceded,      when that county of Mechlenburg seceded from the Colonies.
     Martin: Never heard of it.
     Phelps: Yes, you'll find it in Presbyterian writings. You can find      it from D. James Kennedy; he has a thing on it. And Jefferson copied, at the      end: "...and to this end we devote our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred      honor."
     That was copied directly from the Mechlenburg Declaration.      Jefferson was a plagiarist; he was a high Freemason; and he was out of here      at the time of the writing of our Constitution. And the reason why      the people of Virginia did elect him to office was because he was a State's      Rights man. He wanted limited powers in Washington, and that was a good      thing. And when Jefferson was elected, he undid everything the      king-president John Adams did, with his Alien & Sedition Laws, because      John Adams wanted to be a king, and Jefferson undid it, and Jefferson got      two terms for that.
     Martin: I'm looking at some things that are a little further back      now. The Secreta Monita. What's the significance of that?
     Phelps: The Secret Instructions [excerpts at the end of this      interview] are the handbooks that are given to the professed Jesuits,      those under extreme oath. [The oath is presented in full at the      end of this interview.] And it tells them how to conduct their plans,      subjugating peoples and nations to the Jesuit General, and thus, to the      temporal power of the Pope. It tells how they are to deceive. It shows how      they are to swindle rich widows out of their fortunes, like they did with      Astor's second wife who survived the Titanic catastrophe. It shows their      general approach on how to do things.
     This particular book cannot be known, and if it's ever published, they      will deny it's existence. But when you see the works that the Jesuits have      done, it's in complete agreement with the Secreta Monita.
     There is a very interesting section in Edwin R. Sherwin's book The      Engineer Core Of Hell, written in 1886 I believe—another suppressed      work. It's usually in the archives of all the older libraries back here. And      he shows how this Secreta Monita was discovered in South America by a      Mason, and the Mason managed to esca