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Started by Heru Djet, Nov 03, 2015, 10:08 PM

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QuoteHeru Djet;206864 wrote: This is also what I believe is behind the current misuse and abuse of Htp. I think that this is an attempt to disrupt any mooring, no matter how tenuous with an Kmtyw cultural reality that is not mediated by Eureurasians. This link severed via an act of delegitimization might be useful in negating the idea that Kmt is a relevant or useful source to inform our ways of being in the world. And as these things tend to go, the de-centering of Kmt usually serves to illuminate Eureurasia as the source of all light and meaning.

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4. Prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from gaining RESPECTABILITY, by discrediting them to three separate segments of the community. The goal of discrediting black nationalists must be handled tactically in three ways. You must discredit those groups and individuals to, first, the responsible Negro community. Second, they must be discredited to the white community, both the responsible community and to “liberals” who have vestiges of sympathy for militant black nationalist [sic] simply because they are Negroes. Third, these groups must be discredited in the eyes of Negro radicals, the followers of the movement. This last area requires entirely different tactics from the first two. Publicity about violent tendencies and radical statements merely enhances black nationalists to the last group; it adds “respectability” in a different way.
5. A final goal should be to prevent the long-range GROWTH of militant black organizations, especially among youth. Specific tactics to prevent these groups from converting young people must be developed.
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Wow glad I read this thread.  There needs to be a clearinghouse so to speak to eliminate this sort of sloppy "scholarship".  I wonder in this book if there is a foreword or introduction by Dr. Rhkty Amen?   This is something I use when looking for books to purchase. Dr. Clarke would do this and that's when I started to use that method.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

Quotekevlew;211495 wrote: Wow glad I read this thread.  There needs to be a clearinghouse so to speak to eliminate this sort of sloppy "scholarship".  I wonder in this book if there is a foreword or introduction by Dr. Rhkty Amen?   This is something I use when looking for books to purchase. Dr. Clarke would do this and that's when I started to use that method.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
Not every book that comes out qualifies a scholarship. There's something to be said for peer-review. There's also something to be said for having a degree. You can go to an HBCU or you can go to a university in Kmt. I think that some of these new people may be using the fact that some of our esteemed elders and ancestors didn't have a degree for an excuse to become a self-referential so-called expert. It's a double-edged sword because going to an institution of Higher Learning may predispose someone to do house negro scholarship but then on the other side not going to any institution is going to make one predisposed to spewing out garbage that doesn't qualify as scholarship in any way, shape, or form.

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There needs to be standards set that qualifies scholarship that would apply to a college educated or non-college researcher. The work should be only peer-reviewed with qualified scholars that have met and are recognized to have met this standard and maybe have been deemed qualified by a counsel of elders.   We have to incorporate our cultural approach otherwise we are imitating eureurasians.  There needs to be elder counsels created to implement this.  I think ASCAC since it is already established and with Dr. Beaty at the helm could serve as a counsel for Nile Valley but needs to expand to include all of Kmtyw classical civilizations. This way a professor like Manu Ampim could be involved with his research into Nubia.  His expertise is conservation.  Maybe add a specific committee for linguistics-include all languages. Obenga and others at the head

I could go on and on....main point is I see fragmentation in our disciplines as if it's not all connected. This opens the door for divide and conquer (once again a historical point).

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

I agree with what's been said in the last three posts. We need to emphasize the necessity of producing scholarship in community. We do this not simply as a way of ensuring integrity, but also as a way of augmenting the quality of our insights. In the Kemetic Institute, our journal--the Kemetic Voice is produced in a peer review fashion. Critical questions are posed to ensure that what we put out reflects well upon both the institute and our movement of Re-Kmtywization.

People who eschew the value of this, who would decry such a process as needless gatekeeping often do not want the deficits of their scholarly preparation revealed. Worse still, some folks are so eager to monetize partial knowledge that they forge ahead despite standing on a shaky foundation.
"Since most of our conscious modes of conceptualizing, acting and moving about are conditioned in part by our language, to use the language of another culture is to use that culture's ideas; and to use another culture's ideas in place of one's own is to relegate the latter to a position of de facto inferiority."
-sbAt Rkhty Amen

Quotekevlew;211495 wrote: Wow glad I read this thread.  There needs to be a clearinghouse so to speak to eliminate this sort of sloppy "scholarship".  I wonder in this book if there is a foreword or introduction by Dr. Rhkty Amen?   This is something I use when looking for books to purchase. Dr. Clarke would do this and that's when I started to use that method.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
There was no foreword in the book.
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If you climb a good tree, we push you.

Brother Heru Djet thank you for the information. I have known of the Kemetic institute but have not looked into it in depth. I am for sure familiar with most of the members.  

How does this organization differ from ASCAC if I may ask?  Looks like a lot of the same members. From what I can tell set up with the same commissions as well.  Are they primarily focused on Nike Valley or are other river valley civilizations studied.  I am very interested.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

Quotekevlew;211518 wrote: There needs to be standards set that qualifies scholarship that would apply to a college educated or non-college researcher. The work should be only peer-reviewed with qualified scholars that have met and are recognized to have met this standard and maybe have been deemed qualified by a counsel of elders. We have to incorporate our cultural approach otherwise we are imitating eureurasians. There needs to be elder counsels created to implement this. I think ASCAC since it is already established and with Dr. Beaty at the helm could serve as a counsel for Nile Valley but needs to expand to include all of Kmtyw classical civilizations. This way a professor like Manu Ampim could be involved with his research into Nubia. His expertise is conservation. Maybe add a specific committee for linguistics-include all languages. Obenga and others at the head

I could go on and on....main point is I see fragmentation in our disciplines as if it's not all connected. This opens the door for divide and conquer (once again a historical point).

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke
This is a good suggestion. The point on divide and conquer is the reason why some of these folks are on the rise now. "To one who does not know, a small garden is a forest."

QuoteHeru Djet;211525 wrote: I agree with what's been said in the last three posts. We need to emphasize the necessity of producing scholarship in community. We do this not simply as a way of ensuring integrity, but also as a way of augmenting the quality of our insights. In the Kemetic Institute, our journal--the Kemetic Voice is produced in a peer review fashion. Critical questions are posed to ensure that what we put out reflects well upon both the institute and our movement of Re-Kmtywization.

People who eschew the value of this, who would decry such a process as needless gatekeeping often do not want the deficits of their scholarly preparation revealed. Worse still, some folks are so eager to monetize partial knowledge that they forge ahead despite standing on a shaky foundation.
@Kemetic Voice is it blind/double-blind peer review?
I think that's BlackTastic work going on there. I did a class on the connections between Mdw Ntr and contemporary Kmtyw languages for Teaching About Kmt back when I was in Mji wa Upepo. By the way, in your last paragraph, you sounded like Frederick Douglass.

QuoteTenkamenin;211526 wrote: There was no foreword in the book.
Good that no credible person's reputation is at risk.
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@Obadele Kambon, it is peer-review, but not blind peer-review.
"Since most of our conscious modes of conceptualizing, acting and moving about are conditioned in part by our language, to use the language of another culture is to use that culture's ideas; and to use another culture's ideas in place of one's own is to relegate the latter to a position of de facto inferiority."
-sbAt Rkhty Amen

QuoteHeru Djet;211627 wrote: @Obadele Kambon, it is peer-review, but not blind peer-review.
Asante. What is your current role with respect to the journal?

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Institute of Kmtyw Studies - College of Humanities
Editor-in-Chief - Ghana Journal of Linguistics
Secretary (2015-2020) - Kmtyw Studies Association of Kmt
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