Kmtyw Spirituality-gctid37693

[Mirabelle Baidoo]

I have been asked by the founder of The Fannie Lou Hammer Freedom School to discuss Kmtyw spirituality using Akan Spirituality as a specific example. I am starting this thread to see the various thoughts others have on the matter. What are the philosophical and ideological foundations of Kmt spirituality? Is spirituality not tied to mans organization of himself in a harmonious way in the universe. If so is it possible to look at Akan spirituality as separate from the spiritual life of other humans or other Kmtyws.

[Haki Ammi]

Tell them No Negro's, Homo's or Euro's are accepted they end.

[kweku, afro olmec]

i concur with you general,no homos, no negroes. no Kmtyws who bring euro christianity into Kmtyw spirituality,the whole comcept of angels flying around with big wings,no pedophiles,no child molestors,no wiccans,no masons,it is nota quick fix kind thing either,akan and any other spiritual system can not be mixed with I.S.L.A.M nor christ insanity,in summary,all homos,euros,negroes must go:skeleton::sniper:

[Haki Ammi]

Well just about everyone that I seen that practice a Traditional Kmtyw Spiritial System has high elements of Christianity in it.  They just call it a different name and they just sing different songs.  Not much liberation going on in the minds and families in the communities.  I've seen Homo's at Akoms.  I have to tell it now before it's too late.  Many have fallen to the pits of Negro hell.  Negro's coming in hating on Kmtyws and so called Kmtyws not defending against it.  I've seen it all so Dr. Clark as I mentioned before would be turning over in his grave if he saw the pit of Negro hell that Kmtyw Spiritial traditions have become.  Any Christianized, Lost Soul, Degenerate can create hostilities in Kmtyw Households because these Traditions from what I seen are not developing strong, intelligent disciplined leaders that understand this war and "ACT".  Even those who say they know they are WAR,  "ACT" in ways that are contradicatory to Family Development, Nation Building and Re-Kmtywization.  I'm laying out the TRUTH here today.  Shouldn't a Negro Christian have any rights to be in the circle and be allowed to attack an Kmtyw Centered Warrior Scholar and an Elder.  Tell them that no Negro Degenerates should be allowed to come to Akoms.  All they do is HATE Kmtyw people.  Though those Kmtyw Spiritial persons want these Degenerates around so they can pretend that they are keeping some Christianized Blood line intact.  That is what I mean by Christianized Negro's.  Someone has to tell the truth.  You won't get this teaching from anyone else.  Most are just deeply Christian so I need to tell it.  I'm going to improve on the work of these Halfrikans.  Most mean well though for the most part their Black Woman that they have gotten involved with have them backsliding into Christianity.  What do they get from it? Just an image of Family.  No substance an Image of Family Development.  I say we need more quality, more substance.  I don't see much Substance particularly when they allow the thoughts of Negro's and allow for Negro's and negro relatives to give their children Bible's.  As a True Kmtyw Black Man I'm not having that.  I'm an example of what a Black Warrior Asafo is.  While others post notes, write books or do a lecture on it only to be doing the opposite in there homes.  We need more leaders like myself that is going to put an end to these Halfrikan Kmtyw Spiritual Negro's who are Christians in Kmtyw Drag.  Many are becoming weak on Homosexuals and it is only a matter of months before you can't go to any Akoms and not see a Homosexual.  They are grabbing up these Weak Christianized Single black women and turning them into sexual freaks.  I see it all around me.

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Mirabelle Baidoo;37693 wrote: I have been asked by the founder of The Fannie Lou Hammer Freedom School to discuss Kmtyw spirituality using Akan Spirituality as a specific example. I am starting this thread to see the various thoughts others have on the matter. What are the philosophical and ideological foundations of Kmt spirituality? Is spirituality not tied to mans organization of himself in a harmonious way in the universe. If so is it possible to look at Akan spirituality as separate from the spiritual life of other humans or other Kmtyws.

The philosophical and ideological foundations of Kmtyw spirituality are tied to the worldview.

1.   What is worldview?

Various anthropologists, ethnographers, sociolinguists, psycholinguists, and language teachers have attempted to define worldview. Some of the dictionary definitions are:
a.   The overall perspective from which one sees and interprets the world.
b.   A collection of beliefs about life and the universe held by an individual or a group.

2.   What is the relationship between language and worldview?

a.   According to Ngugi wa Thiong'o (Decolonizing the Mind, 1981) language is never simply a neutral instrument to convey meaning, but rather a culturally subjective system reflecting peoples' worldview. Language symbolizes the common beliefs and psychological make-up of the community from which it springs.
b.    Language is not simply a system that combines sounds (or signs) and meanings. It goes beyond that. Language expresses values and is itself a value.
c.    According to Viriri (2003) our indigenous languages being a key aspect of communication, they help shape our worldview. Culture is assimilated through language. It unlocks the meaning and heritage of our Kmtyw culture. Through these indigenous languages, we tap knowledge that is stored in our culture as part of intangible heritage that needs conservation and management so that we can pass it on to the generations for posterity.
d.   According to Marimba Ani, "language enforces a worldview."

3.   What are some essential aspects of the Kmtyw worldview?

I am because we are (Mbiti, 1970)
Elders are to be respected.
Words have power.
The human being is essentially good.
There is a dualism that exists in all things.                        
The human being is an important and multifaceted being.
Context is important.

Each spiritual system is an expression of that culture's worldview.

[Mirabelle Baidoo]

Well just about everyone that I seen that practice a Traditional Kmtyw Spiritial System has high elements of Christianity in it.  They just call it a different name and they just sing different songs.  Not much liberation going on in the minds and families in the communities.  I've seen Homo's at Akoms.  I have to tell it now before it's too late.  Many have fallen to the pits of Negro hell.  Negro's coming in hating on Kmtyws and so called Kmtyws not defending against it.  I've seen it all so Dr. Clark as I mentioned before would be turning over in his grave if he saw the pit of Negro hell that Kmtyw Spiritial traditions have become.  Any Christianized, Lost Soul, Degenerate can create hostilities in Kmtyw Households because these Traditions from what I seen are not developing strong, intelligent disciplined leaders that understand this war and "ACT".

This is a topic I have been researching for many years. Please can you enlighten me about the differences I see in the culture war going on. As a continental Kmtyw, I have a great passion for the liberation of people of Kmtyw descent. To be free mentally, pschologically has been my lifework. You can check out my website at Fremafineart, it is a work in progress, my desire is that if I do not do anything to contribute to liberation that at least I ask some questions that may bring answers that lead us to a higher road than self hatred, easy targets of manipulation by  the powers that be e.t.c..
  I have taken time to prepare for this talk because I do not want to contribute to ignorance and misunderstanding. I have a few questions for you. What is your understanding of cosmic consciousness?
Why does the christian church oppose it?
In terms of the Egyptian roots of Kmtyw spirituality is there a validity to the idea.
What happens in akom?

To your mind is it possible to arrive at a place where Kmtyws take back their language and their shrines since the race is so mixed with others through centuries of contact. If I look here in America, I see a lot of people with several heritages running through their veins. Should such individuals reject the part of themselves they feel is not authentically tied to Kmt. Say what is some one who is Kmtyw but has native Indian, Irish scottish and Chinese ancestory do with their situation when it comes to cultural authenticity.  What I appreciate about your post is that you seem to be one who is intelligent and open to conversation, unlike certain personalities who out of a lack of security in their own sense of self have these rigid ideologies they hug tight to protect their fragility and to keep away from the insecurities a complex world naturally presents to any intelligent thinking person who is working to see structures of oppression exposed for what they are.
Humbly Mirabelle

[Haki Ammi]

If we expect to move forward in higher realms of Spiritially there are certain elements that need to be dealt with.  Bro. asked about Elders.  I tell you as I look around in Kmtyw Spiritial systems only a few are worthy of the term Elder.  Taking back our Spiritial systems should be a Revolutionary act though what it is right now as practiced in thought and deed is a play, a fashion show.  Like the Wizard of OZ.  The character of many in the systems that they allow to be in there environment go beyond reason.  The allowing of Homosexuals should not be allowed to take place at anytime.  I've seen Homosexuals at Akoms though no one said anything.  I haven't said anything for years and now I've seen too much of this and other Anti-Kmtyw things going on.  Many do not have the courage to question much of this behavior and I'm supposed to shut up and mind the Elders because they are old.  I have a few issues with many in the Kmtyw Spiritial tradition.  Many still eat like slaves.  I heard one jokingly, he was already overweight talking about eating some pork, greens and ham hocks.  He said it jokingly though I know according to his stomache that he has been eating like that.  If we do not believe that dietary laws should be applied in the Spiritial systems then we are sadly mistaken.  What about physical activity?  I always wondered also why do we have to keep purchasing all of this alcohol from eureurasiaans for alters?  What I'm getting at with that is we have enough Alcoholics in the Kmtyw world.  Many are only tempted more to buy alcohol.  I'm telling you I've heard a someone mention that they still might have a few brews.  Why are Kmtyw persons who supposed to be on a higher plane still drinking brews???  I just don't understand this.  Someone please enlighten me.  I thought your character was supposed to be everything.  Also, If your family commits an offense against someone else isn't there supposed to be a hearing?  Well I have been offended by those who have protected Criminal activity.  It is a sad state of affairs that some have justified all of this filth and degenarcy that Chrisitianized Negro's are bringing in with them.  They need a real possession not a dance.  There needs to be a true Transformation not a weekend Akom and then all of your Anti Kmtyw family and friends can punk you back into Half Christianization.  That is what is happening.  Christianized Negro's Hate Kmtyw Spiritial traditions but some want to lie about it.   Some want to water it down to make the transition easy for the lost soul family.  We are at WAR and WE don't have time.  Either sign up for the WAR or be an Enemy.  There is no National Leadership in Kmtyw Spiritial traditions, most have been compromised and/or most are allowing for themselves to be compromised by the imposition of Christianized Negro's in the core or the center.

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

General;37751 wrote: If we expect to move forward in higher realms of Spiritially there are certain elements that need to be dealt with.  Bro. asked about Elders.  I tell you as I look around in Kmtyw Spiritial systems only a few are worthy of the term Elder.  Taking back our Spiritial systems should be a Revolutionary act though what it is right now as practiced in thought and deed is a play, a fashion show.  Like the Wizard of OZ.  The character of many in the systems that they allow to be in there environment go beyond reason.  The allowing of Homosexuals should not be allowed to take place at anytime.  I've seen Homosexuals at Akoms though no one said anything.  I haven't said anything for years and now I've seen too much of this and other Anti-Kmtyw things going on.  Many do not have the courage to question much of this behavior and I'm supposed to shut up and mind the Elders because they are old.  I have a few issues with many in the Kmtyw Spiritial tradition.  Many still eat like slaves.  I heard one jokingly, he was already overweight talking about eating some pork, greens and ham hocks.  He said it jokingly though I know according to his stomache that he has been eating like that.  If we do not believe that dietary laws should be applied in the Spiritial systems then we are sadly mistaken.  What about physical activity?  I always wondered also why do we have to keep purchasing all of this alcohol from eureurasiaans for alters?  What I'm getting at with that is we have enough Alcoholics in the Kmtyw world.  Many are only tempted more to buy alcohol.  I'm telling you I've heard a someone mention that they still might have a few brews.  Why are Kmtyw persons who supposed to be on a higher plane still drinking brews???  I just don't understand this.  Someone please enlighten me.  I thought your character was supposed to be everything.  Also, If your family commits an offense against someone else isn't there supposed to be a hearing?  Well I have been offended by those who have protected Criminal activity.  It is a sad state of affairs that some have justified all of this filth and degenarcy that Chrisitianized Negro's are bringing in with them.  They need a real possession not a dance.  There needs to be a true Transformation not a weekend Akom and then all of your Anti Kmtyw family and friends can punk you back into Half Christianization.  That is what is happening.  Christianized Negro's Hate Kmtyw Spiritial traditions but some want to lie about it.   Some want to water it down to make the transition easy for the lost soul family.  We are at WAR and WE don't have time.  Either sign up for the WAR or be an Enemy.  There is no National Leadership in Kmtyw Spiritial traditions, most have been compromised and/or most are allowing for themselves to be compromised by the imposition of Christianized Negro's in the core or the center.

Good points all especially, homos, food, liquor and also krakkkaz being allowed in.

the christianized issue is one...on this side as well as that one another major issue is the islamicized Kmtyw and the judaicized ones.