TRIBUTE TO KIMBWANDENDE KIA BUNSEKI FU-KIAU - Dikenga dia Kongo-gctid108609

[Tenkamenin]

ManiKongo;143952 wrote: I agree with you 1000%, I really was thinking the exact same thing about these two books if it's “Kmtyw Cosmology of the BÂNTU-KÔNGO” that you're speaking of. They really are building blocks. In the intro Marimba Ani writes that Fu-Kiau " puts flesh onto the bones of Kmtyw Nationalist ideology" (p. xii).

Every Kmtyw child should read these at least once a year. And what I like is that the Dikenga dia Kongo is always used and it even gives you a better understanding or overstanding sometimes. This symbol is powerful and a lot of knowledge is hidden inside of it.

I haven't read “Heal thy Self” but that's a good example of the interest in re-reading books with that new perspective/knowledge in mind.

The story of  his mother and Ma Mukènto (p. 34) was deep. I know for a fact that dreams that tell you about the future can happen, but the thing here is that it's the baby in the womb who came to see her in a dream. One of the best stories I ever heard.

Agreed the story of Ma Mukento was deep, I learned a few lessons from the story,

1) Wisdom knows no age.

2) The story was a great example of listening to one's self, conscious and subconscious, and body/mind.

Our inability to listen to ourselves is the reason why we get sick. You feel a pain on your side and try to toughen it out but your kidney might be saying it's time to get a check up. Moreover If I have an out of character dream I should not immediately dismiss it, but rather I should reflect and draw lessons from it. Furthermore  if I can't make sense of the dream, I should realize that my Kinenga is out of order and should treat it appropriately.

[Mani Kongo]

Tenkamenin;144066 wrote: Agreed the story of Ma Mukento was deep, I learned a few lessons from the story,

1) Wisdom knows no age.

2) The story was a great example of listening to one's self, conscious and subconscious, and body/mind.

Our inability to listen to ourselves is the reason why we get sick. You feel a pain on your side and try to toughen it out but your kidney might be saying it's time to get a check up. Moreover If I have an out of character dream I should not immediately dismiss it, but rather I should reflect and draw lessons from it. Furthermore  if I can't make sense of the dream, I should realize that my Kinenga is out of order and should treat it appropriately.

1) A mukènto from Cameroon once  told me that when she was a child back home, when her Tata was faced with a certain type of situation/decision he would asked her to come stand next to him and then tell him what she thought of the situation. He would often base his decision on her advice though she wasn't more than 10.

2) Indeed, "the complex web of the body's electrical waves"

I like that idea that if you can't make sense of a dream it means you are probably away from the didi (center) therefore disrupting the Kinenga and by doing so you're disrupting "the complex web", how can one kutula (decode) the information properly after that ?

[Mani Kongo]

I'm writing some of my my quotes over there:
http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/37525-Self-Healing-Power-and-Therapy

[Tenkamenin]

ManiKongo;144177 wrote:

1) A mukènto from Cameroon once  told me that when she was a child back home, when her Tata was faced with a certain type of situation/decision he would asked her to comes stand next to him and then tell him what she thought of the situation. He would often base his decision on her advice though she wasn't more than 10.

2) Indeed, "the complex web of the body's electrical waves"

I like that idea that if you can't make sense of a dream it means you are probably away from the didi (center) therefore disrupting the Kinenga and by doing so you're disrupting "the complex web", how can one kutula (decode) the information properly after that ?

1) Whoa! valuable tip on developing a childs critical thinking skills. I will keep this story in my tool chest.

2) You ask a great question on decoding information, since I do not have the luxury of being trained in a school or learning from a master, the road to decoding is going to be approached scientically. Trial and error is my method, and although more mistakes will be made than usual, eventually I will get there.

[Mani Kongo]

Tenkamenin;144263 wrote: 1) Whoa! valuable tip on developing a childs critical thinking skills. I will keep this story in my tool chest.

2) You ask a great question on decoding information, since I do not have the luxury of being trained in a school or learning from a master, the road to decoding is going to be approached scientically. Trial and error is my method, and although more mistakes will be made than usual, eventually I will get there.

I'm now conscious that Ngânga Fu-Kiau's books (the 5 that are mentioned in this thread) give a true didi not to move away from whether you're an individual, a family unit, an organization/institution. If you stay focused on these principles you will not drink the poison of white culture, if you ever do you will feel/see/hear in some way that the Kinenga is disrupted. And you have a list of fundamental deviations that are simple and clear: http://www.abibitumikasa.com/forums/showthread.php/112119-Nkondo-mi-Nzambi-God-s-Prohibitions?p=144178&viewfull=1#post144178
Of course that's not all there is in the world but there is a lot more to this knowledge also.

One other part of the decoding aspect is the fact that speaking your Kmtyw language opens up "doors" in your mind and in your dna. We'll be closer to the truth when speaking/reading words created by our people b/c they created/used words that were in tune with their spirit and their environment, it can not be compared to speaking/reading it in any foreigner's language. That's simply impossible.

[Tenkamenin]

Manikongo, all great points, language is essential to unlocking the mysteries of this unifying force.

Question, is Simba Simbi Maat?

[Mani Kongo]

I don't know. I would say that Kinenga (balance) is but Maat is more than just that.
"Sîmbi is the power behind all life" (page 1).

[Tenkamenin]

ManiKongo;144390 wrote: I don't know. I would say that Kinenga (balance) is but Maat is more than just that.
"Sîmbi is the power behind all life" (page 1).

Agreed, I re read Simba Simbi and it's not MAAT.

[Mani Kongo]

I don't know enough about Maat and next to nothing about Mdw Ntr to correctly make good comparisons/connections but some of the concepts in SHPT do make me think of Maat like the deviation aspect and the "negative confessions" which are about saying that one has not committed a number of specific deviations during his/her life.

[Agya Kwaku]

I keep these definitions in my mind when understanding Simba Simbi : The key word is Simbi whose root verb in Kikongo is Si^mba = to hold up, to keep, to bless, to treasure, to touch, to retain.
Simbi = has 3 meanings; a keeper. a watch over, someone with power to protect and a living power/energy that holds up everything. Simbi is the power behind all life. pg 1 in Simba Simbi

[Tenkamenin]

Agya Kwaku;144759 wrote: I keep these definitions in my mind when understanding Simba Simbi : The key word is Simbi whose root verb in Kikongo is Si^mba = to hold up, to keep, to bless, to treasure, to touch, to retain.
Simbi = has 3 meanings; a keeper. a watch over, someone with power to protect and a living power/energy that holds up everything. Simbi is the power behind all life. pg 1 in Simba Simbi

Very deep Agya Kwaku, I too keep those words in my head. When I meditate in the morning I allow the flow of thoughts to come through, when the negative thoughts or worries become persistent I say Simba Simbi and they all go away.

I've read a few books on Kmtyw cosmology and this is the first time where I'm moving from memorization of concepts to becoming one with it. I'm more aware of my energy, balance, diet etc.

The great thing about our various Kmtyw Spiritual systems is that they can be integrated with one another. At the root, the cosmology between the various Kmtyw groups are the same, however we have different ways of getting to the didi (center). So in essence,

-I can pour libation in the Akan language

-Say Simba Simbi to generate energy.

- Read Ptah Hoteps words of wisdom

-Dance traditional Ga dances

And still reach the core.

[Mani Kongo]

Agya Kwaku;144759 wrote: I keep these definitions in my mind when understanding Simba Simbi : The key word is Simbi whose root verb in Kikongo is Si^mba = to hold up, to keep, to bless, to treasure, to touch, to retain.
Simbi = has 3 meanings; a keeper. a watch over, someone with power to protect and a living power/energy that holds up everything. Simbi is the power behind all life. pg 1 in Simba Simbi

Inga, i bôbo Tâta Kwaku. The "someone with power to protect" and "a living power/energy that holds up everything" are powerful. The linguistic aspect makes "holding up what holds you up" easily understandable: you need to keep it, treasure it, retain it, kwk. On a scientific level, there are forces that do hold up all of our atoms together, that's a good example.

Tenkamenin;144997 wrote: Very deep Agya Kwaku, I too keep those words in my head. When I meditate in the morning I allow the flow of thoughts to come through, when the negative thoughts or worries become persistent I say Simba Simbi and they all go away.

I've read a few books on Kmtyw cosmology and this is the first time where I'm moving from memorization of concepts to becoming one with it. I'm more aware of my energy, balance, diet etc.

The great thing about our various Kmtyw Spiritual systems is that they can be integrated with one another. At the root, the cosmology between the various Kmtyw groups are the same, however we have different ways of getting to the didi (center). So in essence,

-I can pour libation in the Akan language

-Say Simba Simbi to generate energy.

- Read Ptah Hoteps words of wisdom

-Dance traditional Ga dances

And still reach the core.

[Say aloud as follows: "Hold up that which holds you up, X (insert your name). But it is preferable if you learn to say it in the original language as: Sîmba Sîmbi, X). Do this anytime and place you want. You will notice some changes in your life.] p.5
That's what you're talking about, that's one of the first thing I remembered from the book. In the research I did to prepare our next Dikenga discussion I've seen similarities with many other Kmtyw symbols/concepts all throughout the continent. Nice list too, and I do believe that this type of alliance of teachings/sciences is what made Kmtyws in places like Ayiti and Palmares this strong and this powerful.

Thank you both Tâta Kwaku and mpângi Tenkamenin for sharing all these thoughts, you're making this thread a very Kongopowerful one, ntôndélé bèni!

[Tenkamenin]

I was reading Karenga's translation of Kemetian literature and in the Book of Khun-Anup the author says,

"The balancing of the land lies in Maat- truth, justice and righteousness. Do no speak falsely for you are great; do not act lightly for you have weight; be not untrue for you are the balance and do not swerve for you are the standard. You are on the level with the balance. If it tilts, then, you will lean too. Do not drift, rather steer."

After reading that passage I immediately thought of this thread. :sankofa:

[Mani Kongo]

That's what the Mdw Ntr say? Are you speaking of "The Eloquent Peasant" ?
That's what came up first when I searched Khun-Anup and the story makes me think of the Mbôngi book, the Kinzônzi aspect in particular.

[Agya Kwaku]

@Tenkamenin That passage made me think of a passage in Self Healing Power and Therapy " A word, a teaching, a gift, a laughter or an explanation from a violent and bloody mind has a impact on it's consumer. We are what we consume, learn, hear, see and feel.
Also I think Maat is Simba Simbi. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts