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Kmtyws, why do you follow Christianity? VIDEO!-gctid227652

Started by Obibini, Apr 05, 2017, 08:46 AM

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QuoteObibinii;227652 wrote: https://youtu.be/v7IttLiKOh4

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On second thought.  Right on Kmtyws having our own traditional systems and thoughts before colonization, but still using colonizer phrases to explain them.

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

Quotekevlew;227672 wrote: I like this

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
Me 2.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

Get rid of the He, Himself,His,God...this is anti Kmtyw  Thought

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

Quotekevlew;227672 wrote: On second thought.  Right on Kmtyws having our own traditional systems and thoughts before colonization, but still using colonizer phrases to explain them.

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed
Great point.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

Quotekevlew;231363 wrote: Get rid of the He, Himself,His,God...this is anti Kmtyw  Thought

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Exactly. But I suspect the video was intended to get to the level of their understanding to slowly wake them UP! Cause as you know, most religious people won't listen to anything spiritually awakening, unless it comes from or resonates with their pathetic literal interpretations of their Biblical theology. Tell a Christian "the Kingdom Of Heaven" is WITHIN, not somewhere in the sky, and he or she will call you "an AntiCHRIST". Yet "CHRIST" is the one who said it in their own Bible!
So to reach their religiously buried mind, one has to use the language they understand and already accept, in order to even get their attention to consider what you want to reveal to them. Which is the truth they desperately need, yet unconscious about it.
Why is it very important to approach them on their level? For example, if Dr. Obadele Kambon had to teach kids at the kindergarten level, he wouldn't teach them using the PHD higher level of knowledge. Rather, he will have to come to their level, use things kids can grasp, relate to, and can easily understand, in order to bring out what's already deposited within them, naturally.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

QuoteObibini;231505 wrote: Exactly. But I suspect the video was intended to get to the level of their understanding to slowly wake them UP! Cause as you know, most religious people won't listen to anything spiritually awakening, unless it comes from or resonates with their pathetic literal interpretations of their Biblical theology. Tell a Christian "the Kingdom Of Heaven" is WITHIN, not somewhere in the sky, and he or she will call you "an AntiCHRIST". Yet "CHRIST" is the one who said it in their own Bible!
So to reach their religiously buried mind, one has to use the language they understand and already accept, in order to even get their attention to consider what you want to reveal to them. Which is the truth they desperately need, yet unconscious about it.
Why is it very important to approach them on their level? For example, if Dr. Obadele Kambon had to teach kids at the kindergarten level, he wouldn't teach them using the PHD higher level of knowledge. Rather, he will have to come to their level, use things kids can grasp, relate to, and can easily understand, in order to bring out what's already deposited within them, naturally.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.
I hear you.  I am more inclined to think that the person in the video is himself coming from or out of the Christian background and this is why often even when conversing with "woke" or those that have come out abrahamic faiths the remnants of the ideology still lingers in the words or phrases used.

I agree it is important to reach people where they are however I feel that we should use Kmtyw truth whenever possible. The reason they are buried in religious doctrine is the very language and ideology they currently use and have been taught and to me it would be like teaching a person how to grow fresh vegetables in bad soil as opposed to first telling them the soil they are using will never yield them the fresh fruit they desire.  

Using your example of Dr. Kambon, check out the videos from Abibifahodie Adesuabea.  There the youth at all levels are being taught Kmtyw truth at their level but it is from an Kmtyw paradigm in Kmtyw languages.  There is no using the eureurasian paradigm to explain Kmtyw Thought.  With kids it's actually easier because they have not been totally brain dirtied.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

There is a big difference between teaching an old dog new tricks, and teaching the younger ones. Think about what I've stated before, regarding the fact that Biblical theology used fear of the unknown afterlife and guilt of sin to scare and manipulate people to believe the unbelievable and accept the unacceptable.
People are afraid to let go of Christianity cause they are in fear of being wrong for not believing, and ending up in " HELL".
The possibility that the narrator of the video may be coming from the Christian background, yet questioning why Kmtyws are Christians shows he's no more a Christian and against the idea of Kmtyws being Christians. And as I've stated earlier, he knows how to communicate to ADULT Christians, in order to get them to listen and understand his point of view. In order words, it's a gradual process when you are trying to wake up Adults from their sleep, and get them to abandon what they previously erroneously believed to be the truth. But when it comes to kids, you can teach them with less resistance, cause they usually don't have erroneous knowledge programmed into their psyche. Dr. Obadele once said that his Dad said: "The first one to the mind wins".
So my analogy about Dr. Obadele teaching kids was to show that Adult Kmtyw Christians are programmed to the point that you won't make much headway with them, unless you're speaking their "LANGUAGE" (What they are already familiar with) they will reject the knowledge they really need. Why? They have what I call "The Christ Psychosis psychological disease" which prevents them from learning or even researching what they've been told to believe ALL THEIR LIVES!
Imagine how difficult it was, and how long it took for some blacks to reject the "White JESUS" image. Then they rushed to replace it with the "Black JESUS". Now here is my point, Though they are still in error for still believing in JESUS, at least, the psychological effects of WORSHIPPING A WHITE "God" as their "savior" has been destroyed. It's not enough. But it's a gradual process for The ADULTS.
For your information, that's how I gradually moved from beLIEving to becoming more conscious as I am today. And the truth is, I may be conscious, but there is Dr. Obadele Kambon who is obviously more conscious than I am.
And I'll end with this: "It's easier to put a baby to sleep, than to awaken a sleeping GIANT (Unconscious Kmtyw).

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

QuoteObibini;231515 wrote: There is a big difference between teaching an old dog new tricks, and teaching the younger ones. Think about what I've stated before, regarding the fact that Biblical theology used fear of the unknown afterlife and guilt of sin to scare and manipulate people to believe the unbelievable and accept the unacceptable.
People are afraid to let go of Christianity cause they are in fear of being wrong for not believing, and ending up in " HELL".
The possibility that the narrator of the video may be coming from the Christian background, yet questioning why Kmtyws are Christians shows he's no more a Christian and against the idea of Kmtyws being Christians. And as I've stated earlier, he knows how to communicate to ADULT Christians, in order to get them to listen and understand his point of view. In order words, it's a gradual process when you are trying to wake up Adults from their sleep, and get them to abandon what they previously erroneously believed to be the truth. But when it comes to kids, you can teach them with less resistance, cause they usually don't have erroneous knowledge programmed into their psyche. Dr. Obadele once said that his Dad said: "The first one to the mind wins".
So my analogy about Dr. Obadele teaching kids was to show that Adult Kmtyw Christians are programmed to the point that you won't make much headway with them, unless you're speaking their "LANGUAGE" (What they are already familiar with) they will reject the knowledge they really need. Why? They have what I call "The Christ Psychosis psychological disease" which prevents them from learning or even researching what they've been told to believe ALL THEIR LIVES!
Imagine how difficult it was, and how long it took for some blacks to reject the "White JESUS" image. Then they rushed to replace it with the "Black JESUS". Now here is my point, Though they are still in error for still believing in JESUS, at least, the psychological effects of WORSHIPPING A WHITE "God" as their "savior" has been destroyed. It's not enough. But it's a gradual process for The ADULTS.
For your information, that's how I gradually moved from beLIEving to becoming more conscious as I am today. And the truth is, I may be conscious, but there is Dr. Obadele Kambon who is obviously more conscious than I am.
And I'll end with this: "It's easier to put a baby to sleep, than to awaken a sleeping GIANT (Unconscious Kmtyw).

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.
Yoo....Meda wo ase.  Appreciate the discussion.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
"Intellectuals ought to study the past not for the pleasure they find in so doing, but to derive lessons from it"

Quotekevlew;231524 wrote: Yoo....Meda wo ase.  Appreciate the discussion.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles
Me nso meda wo ase paa.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.