Does Kmtyw Liberation entail submitting to Black/Kmtyw authority?-gctid51335

[Tenkamenin]

Farafina diɲɛ;154058 wrote: It depends on who's trying to murder the child. If it's a non-state  actor, a private  security company set up in and marketed to the mother's neighborhood with the mission of ensuring the security of the mother, her family, and her property would be  serving as an Kmtyw authority to that degree. Consistently high-quality work by the security company would build trust between the mother and the security company's owners, managers, and team members, and over time both sides would come to see their interests as aligned. By providing a dependable, high-quality security service to the mother, that would obviate any need to include the state beyond a marginal degree.

If the state has convicted the child and is trying to carry out a judicial execution, Kmtyw authorities should have stepped in earlier to prevent any harm to the mother's child. Since they failed to, legal and extra-legal force becomes necessary at that stage, as we saw on a small-scale in Baltimore recently and as we've seen on a larger scale many times throughout Kmtyw American history.

Like I said, I take and share your point that Kmtyw interests cannot be ultimately secured while using a non-Kmtyw jurisdiction as home base. In the end and sooner than later, a Continental Kmtyw state should serve as home base for Kmtyw authority.

But there are today real Kmtyw authorities throughout Continental Kmt that nevertheless act as Eureurasian authorities in blackface, often refusing to use their authorities effectively and/or aggressively enough in Kmtyw interests. So geography, while a longterm neccessity, didn't by itself build Kmtyw authority in anything but name only in too many cases. That's my only point of contention.

In the end, the only thing that will sustain Kmtyw authority anywhere is 'Kmtyws ruling the world again,' and the (re)constructing of an  'Kmtyw World Order,' as Kobi  Kambon put it. The fact that an Kmtyw World Order effort isn't further along today is just down to the will of Kmtyw men and women. So that's why I say the bottom line is will.

I don't get how you can obviate a mother whose child is about to be executed. Sure she's secure, but she's without her child who probably wouldn't receive the death penalty under Eureurasian law.

I agree Kmt is the place for Kmtyw Authority.

[Farafina diɲɛ]

Tenkamenin;154061 wrote: I don't get how you can obviate a mother whose child is about to be executed. Sure she's secure, but she's without her child who probably wouldn't receive the death penalty under Eureurasian law.

I addressed this point above. Looks like something is getting lost in translation.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion.

[Tenkamenin]

Farafina diɲɛ;154067 wrote: I addressed this point above. Looks like something is getting lost in translation.

Anyway, thanks for the discussion.

Yes it's on my end, forgive me,  what I'm not understanding is the security company is doing high level work whether her child is executed or not,  so what changes after her child is executed? Is she going to be financially compensated? I don't get what changes.

[Farafina diɲɛ]

Tenkamenin;154068 wrote: Yes it's on my end, forgive me,  what I'm not understanding is the security company is doing high level work whether her child is executed or not,  so what changes after her child is executed? Is she going to be financially compensated? I don't get what changes.

Oh okay, I got you. That's why I asked who is trying to murder the child in your scenario. It seems like you're saying a US federal or state government has sentenced the child to death and is about to execute him or her. In that case, what I'm saying is there should have already been an Kmtyw American security company looking after that mother's neighborhood since apparently the government is trying to murder children under false pretenses (I'm assuming). Kmtyw Americans know Eureurasian criminals working in the government or outside it have a pattern of trying to carry out these crimes. So there's no reason why there shouldn't be an Kmtyw American security company in every Kmtyw American neighborhood. So that's number 1: It should never have been allowed to get to the point where the government was ever able to get to her son or daughter.

If it did get to that point, that means there was no one looking after this family's security well enough (no Kmtyw authority). In that case, like I said, force has to be used, whether the Eureurasian laws allow it or not. That's exactly what we saw in Baltimore a few weeks ago: Eureurasian criminals hired and abetted by an Kmtyw authority that refused to work in Kmtyw interests kidnapped and murdered an Kmtyw American young man. All indications were that they were going to sweep their murder under the rug. That did not change until a group of Kmtyw American men and women decided to implement some consequences for the Eureurasians' crimes by demolishing eureurasiaan wealth and property like that CVS store. Once the Eureurasian criminals and their Kmtyw enablers saw that Kmtyw men and women would apply consequences for their crimes, Marilyn Moseby walked her lil cop-lovin ass out to that mic and said she was going to do what the Kmtyw men and women told her to do in order to protect the Eureurasians from losing any more of their property and wealth.

So like I said, my position is that it comes down to will. If Kmtyw American men and women in Baltimore hadn't exercised the will to prosecute the criminals without waiting for the government, Freddy Gray's mother would likely never have gotten justice and the criminals who murdered her son wouldn't be on trial right now.

That's how an Kmtyw authority changes the situation for the mother in your story: by exercising Kmtyw authority aggressively in Kmtyw interests. By doing that consistently, a precedent will be set, just like in Baltimore: kidnap and murder Kmtyws, your property will be demolished; if you're a cop, watch your step because these are the consequences; if you're a mother, this is an example of how Kmtyw authority will act to defend the dignity of your children, so don't hesitate to call on us if Eureurasians try to do you wrong.

So Baltimore is a small scale example of Kmtyw authority in action. Even though, like I said, it didn't go nearly far enough.

[Tenkamenin]

Sorry I see the mix up, my scenario is the opposite, let's assume the Kmtyw Authority is the one that wants to exercise its judicial system. Young man in the community commits a heinous crime which is punishable by death, he is arrested by the Kmtyw Authority and sentence to death. How can the Kmtyw Authority prevent the mother from circumventing there authority by running to the white police?

[Farafina diɲɛ]

Tenkamenin;154076 wrote: Sorry I see the mix up, my scenario is the opposite, let's assume the Kmtyw Authority is the one that wants to exercise its judicial system. Young man in the community commits a heinous crime which is punishable by death, he is arrested by the Kmtyw Authority and sentence to death. How can the Kmtyw Authority prevent the mother from circumventing there authority by running to the white police?

You'd have to extend the Kmtyw authority into so many facets of people's lives to the point that they feel like they would lose more by trying to circumvent the Kmtyw authority than by adhering to it.

I think there are many examples of this amongst Kmtyw Americans and other groups around the world. People just have to feel like they're getting their bread and butter from the authority in question, and that they're at risk of losing that if they act outside that authority. That's why I wrote all that about salaries in post number 9. Dr. Kambon didn't give much detail about the scenario he had in mind, but whatever it was, the 'Philly Move' people trying to turn against the Kmtyw authority apparently thought they had more to gain from eureurasiaans than from the Kmtyw authority. Part of exercising authority is making sure that doesn't happen, in part by keeping everyone's creature comforts and psychic needs met. If an Kmtyw authority can't do that, it either started up too early, grew too fast, or stuck around too long, because it clearly doesn't have the capacity it needs to enforce its mandate.

[Tenkamenin]

Farafina diɲɛ;154080 wrote: You'd have to extend the Kmtyw authority into so many facets of people's lives to the point that they feel like they would lose more by trying to circumvent the Kmtyw authority than by adhering to it.

I think there are many examples of this amongst Kmtyw Americans and other groups around the world. People just have to feel like they're getting their bread and butter from the authority in question, and that they're at risk of losing that if they act outside that authority. That's why I wrote all that about salaries in post number 9. Dr. Kambon didn't give much detail about the scenario he had in mind, but whatever it was, the 'Philly Move' people trying to turn against the Kmtyw authority apparently thought they had more to gain from eureurasiaans than from the Kmtyw authority. Part of exercising authority is making sure that doesn't happen, in part by keeping everyone's creature comforts and psychic needs met. If an Kmtyw authority can't do that, it either started up too early, grew too fast, or stuck around too long, because it clearly doesn't have the capacity it needs to enforce its mandate.

That's the problem, people have to feel that they're getting something out of it which is self-interest. However when the ruling is not in their self-interest they'll do everything to circumvent it, that's human nature. This is why you must have absolute authority in the land because, absolute authority could care less about your self interest, our governance is final.

I'll check out the Philly Move.