Why use the term God/god to refer to Kmtyw spiritual entities?-gctid28847

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@Obadele Kambon, Lol. that is true. I used to read his writings a while back, and when I saw this post I thought about it, and wanted to hear some other opinions of it.

Meda ase:hello:

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There will always be limitations in understanding Kmtyw paradigms using Eureurasian languages.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke

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kevlew;211634 wrote: There will always be limitations in understanding Kmtyw paradigms using Eureurasian languages.

"To hold a people in oppression you have to convince them first that they are supposed to be oppressed." John Henrik Clarke

Better believe it!

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[AsafoKwame]

Ain't the true story the best story and the best story the true story regardless of the method employed to recognize the truth?

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AsafoKwame;233242 wrote: Ain't the true story the best story and the best story the true story regardless of the method employed to recognize the truth?

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Not sure I follow.  Are you saying as long as the story is true then if we use God it doesn't matter?

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Obibini]

The word "God" is NOT an Kmtyw word!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

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Obibini;233273 wrote: The word "God" is NOT an Kmtyw word!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

Indeed it's not.  They can keep it and cultural baggage that comes with it

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Obibini]

kevlew;233285 wrote: Indeed it's not.  They can keep it and cultural baggage that comes with it

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

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KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

[AsafoKwame]

kevlew;233267 wrote: Not sure I follow.  Are you saying as long as the story is true then if we use God it doesn't matter?

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

No, my question was about the true story about the origin and meaning of the term "God/god". Whatever that story is, ain't it the best story?

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[Obibini]

Ohemaa Yaa;138392 wrote: What do you think of the following work?
I found all info here on pages 17-20.
http://www.odwirafo.com/Anidaho-Awareness.pdf

"Notice that the whites and their offspring trace the origin of the word 'god' to two possible proto-indo-eureurasiaan roots:Gheu (geu) meaning: to pour, pour a libation
Gheue (geue) meaning: to call, invoke
The whites and their offspring are unsure of why the roots gheue and gheu would have
anything to do with pouring and at the same time something to do with invoking (calling).
This is because they stole the term from ancient Afuraka/Afuraitkait (Kmt) and claimed it as their own ('proto-indo-eureurasiaan'). "

"What we have in Akan libation is a ritual replication of the Creation of the Universe.
The invocation (goo) is followed by the pouring (gu). This is Amen and Amenet as Gaga Ur and Gagait Urit engaging in the invocation (ga – cackling, crying out) and the pouring out of their Divine Energy (gai – to pour). The cackling of Amenet and Amen is a call to Order the Universe.This is also why the Akan response to the goo (invocation) and gu (pouring) is AMEN. This is also why the whites and their offspring recognized that the root of the term 'god' means 'pouring' and 'invocation' (gheu and gheue), yet had no understanding of how and why these two terms are related. Our actual, authentic cosmology demonstrates how inextricably related these two terms are – phonetically, conceptually and ritually."
 
"It is important to note that in the Twi language of the Akan of Ghana and Ivory Coast we
have two important terms:
gu to pour, to sprinkle [hwie gu, to pour a libation; nsagu liquor (nsa)
pouring (gu) pouring libation with liquor as opposed to water]
go (agoo) an invocation, an announcement before one enters a house; a call for attention

"In Akan culture when one is about to enter a dwelling, one can knock, but they also cry out, 'Agoo' – 'May I have your attention, I am here'. The response by those within the dwelling to acknowledge the individual is 'Amen' (also spelled Amee with the nasal 'ee' pronounciation).
This same formula is used when one attempts to get the attention of a large or noisy crowd. It is a call to Order. An individual will thus cry out, 'Agoo' in the midst of of a large noisy crowd. The crowd is thereby alerted to quiet down and pay attention because something important is about to be said. The crowd then responds by saying 'Amen' – 'We are listening, we submit, you have our attention.'
Yet, this formula is first and foremost used ritually. Before any important task, meeting,
function, etc. Akan people engage in the ritual of pouring libation. This is true of many
Afurakanu/Afuraitkaitnut (Kmtyws). In Akan culture, before pouring the liquid the officiant
cries out 'Agoo', 'Agoo', 'Agoo'. This is an invocation to the Mother and Father Supreme
Being Nyamewaa-Nyame (Nyamewaa is Ny-Ament-waa while Nyame is Ny-Amen), the
Abosom (Deities), an evocation to the Nananom Nsamanfo (Spiritually Cultivated,
Honorable Ancestresses and Ancestors) and the community. The community then responds by saying, 'Amen', 'Amen', 'Amen'. The call and response pattern is: Agoo-Amen, AgooAmen, Agoo-Amen. The officiant then begins to pour."

http://www.odwirafo.com/Anidaho-Awareness.pdf

You've stated some things I've been pondering for sometime now. Factual or coincidental, I sometimes notice similarities between some words in Akan of Ghana and Medu Neter of Kemet.
These may just be coincidences or total errors (COMEDY) but here are some of my perceived similarities:
First of all I AM NOT A LINGUISTS.
So THIS is JUST Comedy!! Just read and LAUGH!!!
I'm sure his Excellency Dr. Obadele Kambon will LAUGH. Cause he's the real deal LINGUIST!!
(KEMET)        (GHANA)
ASAuR.          ASARe or oSei
Tutankhamen  Tutu Ankomah
Amen                 Amee
AMEn                 onyAME
ANKh                 NKwA
MEDu Neter       METUmi Twerɔ (Lol)
KhUFU               aKUFU


KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

[Obibini]

Obadele Kambon;113292 wrote: Great contribution @Heru Djet!

I agree with you!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

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Obibini;233422 wrote: You've stated some things I've been pondering for sometime now. Factual or coincidental, I sometimes notice similarities between some words in Akan of Ghana and Medu Neter of Kemet.
These may just be coincidences or total errors (COMEDY) but here are some of my perceived similarities:
First of all I AM NOT A LINGUISTS.
So THIS is JUST Comedy!! Just read and LAUGH!!!
I'm sure his Excellency Dr. Obadele Kambon will LAUGH. Cause he's the real deal LINGUIST!!
(KEMET)        (GHANA)
ASAuR.          ASARe or oSei
Tutankhamen  Tutu Ankomah
Amen                 Amee
AMEn                 onyAME
ANKh                 NKwAh
MEDu Neter       METumi Twerɔ (Lol)
KhUFU               aKUFU


KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

The question is what method do you use to differentiate between look-alikes and genuine cognates? Compiling a list of putative cognates is the first step of historical/comparative research, not the last.

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[Obibini]

Obadele Kambon;233453 wrote: The question is what method do you use to differentiate between look-alikes and genuine cognates? Compiling a list of putative cognates is the first step of historical/comparative research, not the last.

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I humbly admit that I don't have any particular method, as I'm not a linguist. I just look at look-alikes and words that sound similar. For example:
KhUFU and aKUFU are both Kmtyw names, possibly names of ancient rulers of Kemet and Ghana, and they both sound ALMOST the same.
I'm not trying to make a legitimate claim here. Just playing with words.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

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Obibini;233273 wrote: The word "God" is NOT an Kmtyw word!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

" words referring to abstract concepts of one culture cannot be faithfully translated in the language of another.  Quine points out that a different language does in itself encapsulate a different worldview and even ontology. " - Kamalu pg 14 Person, Divinity, & Nature.

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We must act as if we answer to, and only answer to, our Ancestors, our children, and the unborn.

Amilcar Cabral

[Obibini]

kevlew;242140 wrote: " words referring to abstract concepts of one culture cannot be faithfully translated in the language of another.  Quine points out that a different language does in itself encapsulate a different worldview and even ontology. " - Kamalu pg 14 Person, Divinity, & Nature.

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We must act as if we answer to, and only answer to, our Ancestors, our children, and the unborn.

Amilcar Cabral

I totally agree with you.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.