Dr. Salim Faraji: Mdw Ntr Been Deciphered-gctid227000

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kevlew;227723 wrote: I can see that this is his area of focus. A historical personality rather than a historical figure...that's interesting.

I wonder what is the end goal of the study....is it to somehow legitimize the religion as having an Kmtyw origin?  I haven't read his work yet so really can't make an informed comment.  

One question I would have is if he believes that a personality called jesus came out Kemet, shouldn't we look at Kemet for what knowledge might be gained there and study what is still there in Kemet?  

I might look at more of his stuff....

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

Christianity certainly has Kmtyw origins.  Moses is an Kmtyw name, Mt. Sinai is in Kmt, the ten commandments came straight out of the 42 Negative Confessions. Even the Hebrew God Yah was the name of a Kemetic deity.  Moreover, the attire the Pope wears is from Kemet.  The Gospels were found in Kemet, and some of the early Church leaders were in Kemet. Interestingly you will find similar Old Testament stories in Kmtyw folklore. In Akan folklore, we have similar birthright stories like that of Jacob and Esau. The name Amen is in the Akan culture and I would presume it goes back to the Kemetic Deity.

Dr. Faraji is advocating for a religious revolution, and if you have time, you can listen to the dialogue below to get more clarity on what he's about.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_YM0pi_OM

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Tenkamenin;227751 wrote: Christianity certainly has Kmtyw origins.  Moses is an Kmtyw name, Mt. Sinai is in Kmt, the ten commandments came straight out of the 42 Negative Confessions. Even the Hebrew God Yah was the name of a Kemetic deity.  Moreover, the attire the Pope wears is from Kemet.  The Gospels were found in Kemet, and some of the early Church leaders were in Kemet. Interestingly you will find similar Old Testament stories in Kmtyw folklore. In Akan folklore, we have similar birthright stories like that of Jacob and Esau. The name Amen is in the Akan culture and I would presume it goes back to the Kemetic Deity.

Dr. Faraji is advocating for a religious revolution, and if you have time, you can listen to the dialogue below to get more clarity on what he's about.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_YM0pi_OM

Thanks for the link........I will check it out later.  I guess from what I understand there is a distinction from having Kmtyw names, characters, and places mentioned in a story and the religion itself being Kmtyw.  What I mean is the concepts of the cosmos, how we understand "god"  or creator so to speak, the concepts of creation, complementary concepts such as feminine/masculine energies in our systems...........the cultural unity that Cheik Anta Diop discusses.   For me looking at the Kmtyw concepts is the framework to say it is an Kmtyw indigenous system or not...its like saying the old tv show "Good Times" was a black show because it had black people in it.  But we find out it was written by a Eureurasian.  It had black characters but it was not a black show.  If that makes sense.  

For me the concepts we see in Christianity are not of an Kmtyw paradigm or origin...and the only thing is the myths have Kmtyw names and such.  The concept of the creator being somehow separate from creation, the concept of  there being an equally powerful being. called "devil" is not Kmtyw (no such understanding in Kmtyw concepts from what I have read), the concept of original sin, needing a redemptive being for our salvation, even the perception put forth in the so called ten commandments is contrary to the 42 laws of Ma'at.   The so called commandments are sort of stern directives from a "god" to mankind and are  contrary to the understanding of man having a free will and judging his/her own heart saying I have not...as opposed to thou shalt not...the thing is if you accept one by default you have to accept it all....for me when I started studying, the original sin thing did it for me.......mankind being innately sinful is not an Kmtyw concept it is an Eureurasian understanding totally....from there I started to peel the onion back.  

Dr. Ben once said that it is like eureurasiaans came to Kmt, stole our stuff, ate it up.........vomited it out...and we are sifting through eureurasiaan vomit looking for Kmtyw chunks.

Another one I heard is.............you have a white refrigerator.  Inside it is spoiled food.   Instead of replacing the food, you paint refrigerator black.   Somehow by placing black on it makes it acceptable.  We see this happen with a Black Santa, a Black Jesus, paint it black, but keep the underlying concepts that attack the Kmtyw mind.  

But like I said..........I haven't watched his stuff..........but I do seek to understand all lectures in terms of what is the end goal and is it good for Kmtyws to liberate the mind from our oppressors concepts........Do not take this as a direct response to you somehow...just me putting what is on my mind with regard to the subject itself....I am still a work in progress!!

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kevlew;227752 wrote: Thanks for the link........I will check it out later.  I guess from what I understand there is a distinction from having Kmtyw names, characters, and places mentioned in a story and the religion itself being Kmtyw.  What I mean is the concepts of the cosmos, how we understand "god"  or creator so to speak, the concepts of creation, complementary concepts such as feminine/masculine energies in our systems...........the cultural unity that Cheik Anta Diop discusses.   For me looking at the Kmtyw concepts is the framework to say it is an Kmtyw indigenous system or not...its like saying the old tv show "Good Times" was a black show because it had black people in it.  But we find out it was written by a Eureurasian.  It had black characters but it was not a black show.  If that makes sense.  

For me the concepts we see in Christianity are not of an Kmtyw paradigm or origin...and the only thing is the myths have Kmtyw names and such.  The concept of the creator being somehow separate from creation, the concept of  there being an equally powerful being. called "devil" is not Kmtyw (no such understanding in Kmtyw concepts from what I have read), the concept of original sin, needing a redemptive being for our salvation, even the perception put forth in the so called ten commandments is contrary to the 42 laws of Ma'at.   The so called commandments are sort of stern directives from a "god" to mankind and are  contrary to the understanding of man having a free will and judging his/her own heart saying I have not...as opposed to thou shalt not...the thing is if you accept one by default you have to accept it all....for me when I started studying, the original sin thing did it for me.......mankind being innately sinful is not an Kmtyw concept it is an Eureurasian understanding totally....from there I started to peel the onion back.  

Dr. Ben once said that it is like eureurasiaans came to Kmt, stole our stuff, ate it up.........vomited it out...and we are sifting through eureurasiaan vomit looking for Kmtyw chunks.

Another one I heard is.............you have a white refrigerator.  Inside it is spoiled food.   Instead of replacing the food, you paint refrigerator black.   Somehow by placing black on it makes it acceptable.  We see this happen with a Black Santa, a Black Jesus, paint it black, but keep the underlying concepts that attack the Kmtyw mind.  

But like I said..........I haven't watched his stuff..........but I do seek to understand all lectures in terms of what is the end goal and is it good for Kmtyws to liberate the mind from our oppressors concepts........Do not take this as a direct response to you somehow...just me putting what is on my mind with regard to the subject itself....I am still a work in progress!!

Well said.

Sent from Cosmic Kmt

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Watched the first 5 minutes of the link but have to head out to track practice.  So far a few points for discussion I have noted.  Probably finish later

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

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kevlew;227752 wrote: Thanks for the link........I will check it out later.  I guess from what I understand there is a distinction from having Kmtyw names, characters, and places mentioned in a story and the religion itself being Kmtyw.  What I mean is the concepts of the cosmos, how we understand "god"  or creator so to speak, the concepts of creation, complementary concepts such as feminine/masculine energies in our systems...........the cultural unity that Cheik Anta Diop discusses.   For me looking at the Kmtyw concepts is the framework to say it is an Kmtyw indigenous system or not...its like saying the old tv show "Good Times" was a black show because it had black people in it.  But we find out it was written by a Eureurasian.  It had black characters but it was not a black show.  If that makes sense.  

For me the concepts we see in Christianity are not of an Kmtyw paradigm or origin...and the only thing is the myths have Kmtyw names and such.  The concept of the creator being somehow separate from creation, the concept of  there being an equally powerful being. called "devil" is not Kmtyw (no such understanding in Kmtyw concepts from what I have read), the concept of original sin, needing a redemptive being for our salvation, even the perception put forth in the so called ten commandments is contrary to the 42 laws of Ma'at.   The so called commandments are sort of stern directives from a "god" to mankind and are  contrary to the understanding of man having a free will and judging his/her own heart saying I have not...as opposed to thou shalt not...the thing is if you accept one by default you have to accept it all....for me when I started studying, the original sin thing did it for me.......mankind being innately sinful is not an Kmtyw concept it is an Eureurasian understanding totally....from there I started to peel the onion back.  

Dr. Ben once said that it is like eureurasiaans came to Kmt, stole our stuff, ate it up.........vomited it out...and we are sifting through eureurasiaan vomit looking for Kmtyw chunks.

Another one I heard is.............you have a white refrigerator.  Inside it is spoiled food.   Instead of replacing the food, you paint refrigerator black.   Somehow by placing black on it makes it acceptable.  We see this happen with a Black Santa, a Black Jesus, paint it black, but keep the underlying concepts that attack the Kmtyw mind.  

But like I said..........I haven't watched his stuff..........but I do seek to understand all lectures in terms of what is the end goal and is it good for Kmtyws to liberate the mind from our oppressors concepts........Do not take this as a direct response to you somehow...just me putting what is on my mind with regard to the subject itself....I am still a work in progress!!

I don't disagree with your example. Although we might not like the Hebrew interpretation of our laws and stories, however, that does not change the origins of them.

[Agya Yaw]

Side note: this Brother said he was at Penn State when I was there. He does not look familiar at all. OK, I'm going back to listening.

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Tenkamenin;227761 wrote: I don't disagree with your example. Although we might not like the Hebrew interpretation of our laws and stories, however, that does not change the origins of them.

I finally finished listening to the entire video. Long discussion.  They touched on several topics.  

In short it seems the brother is very committed to his research in those chosen areas.

For me it's not a matter of like or not like but rather Kmtyw or Anti-Kmtyw.  If anti-Kmtyw automatically it is not liked lol. In that sense I look at lectures like this or any lecture for that matter.  This way I try to have a point of reference.  

For talks such as these I really try to first understand is it something beneficial for Kmtyws, then specifically the subject is there a benefit that we can gain from understanding that will liberate Kmtyw people?  Will it take us a step toward dewhiteniization/reKmtywization? Who will benefit if the information provided is implemented?

I guess because I have been watching lectures for a while I had to have some sort of evaluation method for information shared. It also helps me to do focus on research...

So most lectures that are about eureurasian religions in Kmt get this evaluative approach. Are religions from eureurasians beneficial for Kmtyws....what were the Nubians,  Ethiopians, others doing before these religions and then what caused the abandonment from their traditional ways?  I think this is a better served study of these subjects with the goal of understanding our mistakes.

Just my thoughts...

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

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kevlew;227869 wrote: I finally finished listening to the entire video. Long discussion.  They touched on several topics.  

In short it seems the brother is very committed to his research in those chosen areas.

For me it's not a matter of like or not like but rather Kmtyw or Anti-Kmtyw.  If anti-Kmtyw automatically it is not liked lol. In that sense I look at lectures like this or any lecture for that matter.  This way I try to have a point of reference.  

For talks such as these I really try to first understand is it something beneficial for Kmtyws, then specifically the subject is there a benefit that we can gain from understanding that will liberate Kmtyw people?  Will it take us a step toward dewhiteniization/reKmtywization? Who will benefit if the information provided is implemented?

I guess because I have been watching lectures for a while I had to have some sort of evaluation method for information shared. It also helps me to do focus on research...

So most lectures that are about eureurasian religions in Kmt get this evaluative approach. Are religions from eureurasians beneficial for Kmtyws....what were the Nubians,  Ethiopians, others doing before these religions and then what caused the abandonment from their traditional ways?  I think this is a better served study of these subjects with the goal of understanding our mistakes.

Just my thoughts...

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

We're all on different levels mentally, so the person who's at the crossroads on whether he or she should be praying to a white Jesus and reciting Hail Mary 3x's a day, Dr. Salim's information is relevant.  I remember first learning about the 42 Laws of Maat in my Intro to Kmtyw American Studies class 10 years ago, and now because of Abibitumikasa, I'm interested in learning the Ancient language. Mental liberation is a journey.

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Agya Yaw;227201 wrote: That is interesting since I have questions about Asar Imhotep scholarship. There are a couple of people who's scholarship I do trust that back him. I still remain highly skeptical of him.

I have said this before, I wonder if we know enough about Mdw Ntr to talk about it on a high level? They are plenty of people that can read it but nobody speaks it beyond saying "Hotep", "Dua", "Maa Keru". Why is that?

In one of his videos, Dr. Obadele has used other Kmtyw languages as a reference to the pronunciation of Kemetic words.  We're still learning, and there's a lot of work to be done in piecing together the language.  In the video below, Dr. Ashra Kwesi weighs in on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQtXxG5ZGU

[Agya Yaw]

Tenkamenin;227903 wrote: In one of his videos, Dr. Obadele has used other Kmtyw languages as a reference to the pronunciation of Kemetic words.  We're still learning, and there's a lot of work to be done in piecing together the language.  In the video below, Dr. Ashra Kwesi weighs in on this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fQtXxG5ZGU

The prime reason why I'm very leery about saying anything definitive about Mdw Ntr. I will let the linguistic scholarsexperts speak and I will listen on this subject.

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Tenkamenin;227902 wrote: We're all on different levels mentally, so the person who's at the crossroads on whether he or she should be praying to a white Jesus and reciting Hail Mary 3x's a day, Dr. Salim's information is relevant.  I remember first learning about the 42 Laws of Maat in my Intro to Kmtyw American Studies class 10 years ago, and now because of Abibitumikasa, I'm interested in learning the Ancient language. Mental liberation is a journey.

Journey indeed.....

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed

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Tenkamenin;227902 wrote: We're all on different levels mentally, so the person who's at the crossroads on whether he or she should be praying to a white Jesus and reciting Hail Mary 3x's a day, Dr. Salim's information is relevant.  I remember first learning about the 42 Laws of Maat in my Intro to Kmtyw American Studies class 10 years ago, and now because of Abibitumikasa, I'm interested in learning the Ancient language. Mental liberation is a journey.

I would have the same thoughts and questions now looking back at Dr. Clarke's, Dr. Ben's, John G Jackson, Ashra Kwesi, Anthony Browder and others lecture on the subject of Christianity before  christ, or Kmtyw Origins of Western Religions and other book and lectures. I would say that the concepts that went into religions were of Kmtyw origin but the religion itself is not Kmtyw. This is my personal understanding to distinguish Kmtyw versus anti-Kmtyw.   .  One example that for me disqualifies it being of Kmtyw origin is original sin.  

But thanks for the dialogue....I think I may now seek to ask directly those scholars to expand their meaning of origin as it related to Kmtyw Thought.

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The oppressed, having internalized the image of the oppressor and adopted his guidelines, are fearful of freedom.
Paulo Freire, Pedagogy of the Oppressed