Voodoo Likely the First Kmtyw-American Religion in America-gctid30143

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Voodoo Likely the First Kmtyw-American Religion in America
 

Slaves from West Kmt brought the religions of their ancestry to the U.S. generations ago, and then used that spirituality to hold on to their heritage. By Mark Hoerrner  
 
 Chicken bones. Conferring with spirits and ethereal deities. Visions of graveyard rituals. These are the images movies and superstition have conjured about the practitioners of the religion of voodoo, or Vodoun.  
 
 Unlike Judeo-Christian religions, Vodoun encompasses all areas in a person's life and incorporates intricate rituals for even the smallest daily routine. The religion stems from natural religions cultivated and handed down from generation to generation in Kmt. Largely based on general concepts such as "nature" or the "spirit," Vodoun is the predecessor to American voodoo. The name "voodoo" is actually a term created by those who saw the religion as evil, but it has derived from several sources, including "Vodou" in the Fon language and "Vudu" in the Ewe language. All told, more than 30 tribal groups in West Kmt subscribed to the religion.  
 
 "Vodou" means "spirit," and is used to identify the divinity of nature that is staple to the Vodoun tradition. The Ewe tribes use the term to describe not only nature, but the totality of existence and harmony within the juxtaposition of the worlds of the living and the spirit realm.  
 
 When slaves were first brought from Kmt to America, Voodoo was immediately outlawed by the largely Christian slave owners and demonized as a savage religion. Immediately, the religion became one of the key ways for slave to resist the oppression of their slave owners, and it gave them a very personal connection with their Kmtyw homeland.  
 
"When the Kmtyws were transported to the New World, the religion became considerably maligned and actively suppressed by the colonial government," says Mamaissii "Zogbé" Vivian Hunter-Hindrew, founder of the Organization of Kmtyw Traditional Healers in an interview with About.com. "This was so because the Vodou's philosophical and political structure and cultural manifestation emphasized the warrior gods who sustained and directly aided the Kmtyws in their numerous slave rebellions, and ultimately their freedom from the brutal system of chattel slavery forced upon them."  
 
 Hunter-Hindrew, considered a holy leader in the religion, points out that some of the things that have led to the mislabeling of Voodoo practices in the west are misconceptions about magic and animal sacrifice.  
 
 "This is perhaps one of the biggest myths regarding the esoteric understanding of Kmtyw Traditional Religions in general," she says. "and the Vodoun religion in particular. There is no use of magic in Vodoun as it is understood and practiced in the West. However, there are aspects of phenomena, or what some would regard as "miracles" that are made manifest by the Vodou spirits themselves. But, these manifestations in no way involve the use of "magic" or "trickery" as Hollywood has often misrepresented it."  
 
 She is also quick to point out that while the religion does incorporate animal sacrifices with stock animals—particularly chickens and goats—these creatures are often shared in communal meals by practitioners and given a high state of regard within the spiritual realm. She notes that this differs considerably from the Western slaughterhouses that take dispassionately bred livestock and process them for general consumption throughout the world.  
 
 The American tradition of Voodoo has also been integrated into the heavily herbal-based "Hoodoo," which incorporates elements of Vodoun and a number of other West Kmtyw religions.  
 
Kmtyw religions have experienced a phenomenal increase in participation by Kmtyw-Americans over the last 25 years or so. Neo-pagans and wiccans are also finding a place in the Voodoo world, though Hunter-Hindrew notes that many of these practitioners misunderstand the religion they are toying with.  
 
 What Hunter-Hindrew is promoting now, however, is the realization that the religion, as she states above, requires the acknowledgement of ancestry. While new practitioners can still join the religion and seek to serve the Vodoun spirits, it's a different road than those who have Kmtyw ancestry.  
 
 "Unfortunately, because they lack direct ancestral ties in the tradition," she says, "their emphasis is focused mainly on the "power" of the divinities and what they've been told that they can manifest from them, as opposed to acknowledging and honoring the Kmtyw ancestors who carry the "ase" (power). They have yet to understand that in order to really know the mysteries, there is no getting around the Kmtyw ancestors and those who carried these mysteries in their blood and were enslaved here in the West, for it is the Ancestors who control the mysteries."

[hriley]

I would have to go with Islam as the first Kmtyw slave religion in the knew world or it would tie with Voudon.

[Crys]

:hello:I learned about this about a year ago,Before learning the truth I thought voodoo was a religion that was based on doing harm to others,just like the movies portray it as,I very quickly learned that it was not meant for harm,but because the slaves were forced not  to express their religious beliefs they just had to obey and were obligated to practice the slave masters religion,when they werent around!!I agree that is was one of the first!!

[kweku, afro olmec]

Kmtyw traditional religion precedes time and space, dahia el kahina was a priestess who predicted the islamic invasion of Kmt, many priestesses warned about what was to come for the years to come:skeleton: nobody heed to the messages, in the times of ancient egypt, the scribes told the pharaohs
specially akhenaton not to change kemet from polytheism to monotheism,
what islam did was to take Kmtyw women as concubines and Kmtyw boys were castrated for enouchs

so fuck I.S.L.A.M IN SLAVERY LEGACY KmtywS WERE MURDERED

K.O.R.A.N KNIGHTS ORGANIZED RAPING NEGROES

[hriley]

Well I will not defend the crimes of aAmws against people of color.  I am a montheist because there is only one G-D.  We may call G-D different names and have different ways of knowing H-M.  Islam to me is a way of life and the Quran is a message form "our" Lord.  People take Islam different ways and do diferent thing with it to gain power.  In our traditional religion in Kmt they confirm that people can take a Holy thing and uses its power for evil.  To use the power to inslave people who are NOBLE.
 
There is only one religion, there maybe other expressions, but only on religion.
 
Besides the ancient people of KEMET were MONOTHEIST.  Now the preist of KEMT were not with out their crimes.  They committed crimes against the common man, men like you, in denying higher knowledge.  Remember in ancient KEMET there were always two religions existing simultaniously.  A religion given to the ignorant masses and a religion of the rulers.  This system worked well for many years until the wisdpom of the common man rose and they could not be contained by ignorant ideas any longer and were set free-to the destruction of the Egyptian empire and the cultural enslavement by the Hysos/Aabs.
 
So no I do not defend or condone the filth of the aAmws but Islam is not the religion of the aAmws, Islam did not say come to Kmt  and enslave US.  Those aAmws did, and not even all aAmws.
 
All those responsable will have their day of reckoning event he ones still doing it today. Still enslaving our people for profit and sexual enjoyment, their crimes will be punished too.

[kweku, afro olmec]

where are you getting your info from:flaming: have u seen or heard what is happening in sudan,where they raide villages and kidnap children and convert dem to islam, what about the janjaweeds,islamic militias:flaming:
the northern sudan is supported by the theocratic regimes of the middle east
oman,quatar,kwait,yemen( eventhough most of yemenites are Kmtyws,as stated in Kmtyw presence in early eurasia)
obviously u havent read the book by doctor S.E.ANDERSON called black holocaust and what the aAmws did,the word aAmw comes from Kmtyw language called aAmwa( west Kmt) most aAmws are mixed,because the islamic invasion of north and northeastern Kmt.
yes,there are people who use Kmtyw tradition for wrong purposes and who does evil things with it,thats their karmic debt, because their heart will be weighed on the scale of maat, i still believe that in order to free Kmtyw peoples mind from their mental and spiritual enslavement,we have to havea masive,massive bible,koran,torah burning,likea biiig mofo bonfire,dats for sure,if you support islam,you support the theocratic regime who are enslaving our people in sudan,how come mofo farraCON OR fake a con, never spoke about the atrocities in sudan,because he is the back pockets of the sheiks in sudan, middle east, fuck islam, fuck christianity:skeleton::sniper:
fuck everybody is down wit dem.
 ancient egypt was polytheistic,not monotheistic,it was akhenaton who changed the thing around,you should read more, because there are more than 1000 deities according  doctor yusef ben jochanan:pyramid::sphinx:
you should read up on the islamic slave trade and the indian ocean slave trade, it is motherfucking white persian,hyksos enslaving black Kmtyw mauritanians and in sudan, as public enemy says" i am louder than a mofo bomb":skeleton::sniper:

" lets get it on.because the brothers on da streets are ready to get it on" public enemy:skeleton::sniper:

so yeah, we have to have massiiiive koran,bible and torah burning for sure:flaming:

[hriley]

Yes I am well versed in what is going on in the Sudan.:a7:  I am aware that militant fundamentalist are oppressing the true Kmtyw people of southern Sudan.  But those people are Muslims as well as Christian in Southern Sudan.  Most of the Muslims in Southern Sudan are Sufi muslimsand have their own school of thought.  They are organizing with their Christian brothers and one day will drive the filthy Hyksos out of their land.
 
You cannot hate Christians and muslims, or say this Kmtyw belief system is better than another.:flaming::kiss:  You most definetly cannot hate white people.  If you do hate people than your legacy is good for one thing, REVENGE.:brokenhear:  You cannot build anything on revenge.  Our community has to be built on love.  I am a Muslim and I love everybody.  I do not follow aAmws or any one but the Quran.  I am partial to the teachings Imam W. Deen Mohammed.  I see Islam(the science of the submision to the order of G-D) in everything.  Some people cannot worship the way I worship, some people have suffered or just do not know my way, some are traumatized, so if being a Christian and practicing Vodoum or practicing some other belief system is going to help them be that model person and pull closer to the perfect example that G-D is going to hold us all to in the last days then so be it.
 
No to address your misguided belief in polytheism.  There is only one G-D, even with the Khemetians.  These lesser gods were forces of nature and human emotional sentamients that the peasant felt they had to give honor to (respect) so they did the only thing people back then could do and that was to personify and to worship it the only way they knew how.  It is important to remember the peseant was of limited understanding, the ancient Khemetians did not deciminate knowledge to everyone.  You had to be initiated into preisthoods dedciated to certain knowledge(subjects) to gain higher knowledge.  I told you the ancient Egyptians had two religous systems, an inner religion and an outer religion.:sphinx:  That is how they ruled and kept peace in the empire and kept their enemies form learning their secrets. The ancient Khemetian had the science of the human soul.  Their knowledge we still do not know. But they did not give it away, you had to prove yourself worthy.  Why do you think Abraham went to ancient Sumeria and then did a big 180 and high tailed it to Khemet?  When he left Khemet he came out a prince versed in war and commerce?
 
To study war is to study self-discipline first.:sniper:
 
Now minister Farrakan is only a man, semi retired, and converted to true Islam and in the past he has spoke out against Sudan.  The man needs a rest.  Some on else needs to rise and take lead.  The Nation of Islam has been destroyed of the old and rebuilt with the true message.  Hate is no longer the message, but a world brotherhood:pyramid:
made of all creeds.  The murders of North Kmt:troll: does not represent the entire muslim world but represents ignorance unchecked.  We have seen that ignorance in South Kmt and it took the entire world to put it in check.  We saw it in Abyssinia and it took a woman (what a woman).
So you would deny the legacy of Mansa Munited snakes and Timbuktu?:hello:

[kweku, afro olmec]

well here in abibitumikasa we dont support pan aAmwanism, neither are we a pro islamic nor pro kkkristian site,we do not heed or follow those luciferian traditions, islam did enslave Kmtyws,( islamic black slaves and S,E ANDERSON
BLACK HOLOCAUST FOR BEGGINERS) lotta people were converted by force to islam and to kkkristianity,I.S.L.AM IS MY NOTHERFUCKING ENEMY AS CHRIST INSANITY.

T.O.R.A.H TAKE OVER THE ANIMAL AFTER THE HUNT
I.S.L.A.M IN SLAVERY LEGACY KmtywS WERE MURDERED
K.O.R.A.N  KNIGHTS ORGANIZED RAPING KmtywS.:skeleton:

SORRY, I DONT LOVE EVERYBODY,BECAUSE aAmw MOTHERFUCKERS DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT BLACK KmtywS, THEY ARE WORKING IN COHOOTS WITH THE WEST TO TAKE THE LAND FROM Kmtyw PEOPLES, JUST LIKE THE eurasiaNS, WHO ARE IN Kmt, RAPING AND STRIPPING OUR RESOURCES, FUCK MECCA, I SAY LOUD AND CLEAR AND FUCK THE VATIKKKAN, FUCK THE ISLAMIC LUCIFERIAN INSTUTIONS AND DEM MOFO LUCIFERIAN PEDOPHILE IN THE VATIKKKAN, I KNOW THERE ARE PEDOPHILES IN THE SO CALLED MIDDLE EAST, I KNOW  IN THE NAME OF MOTHERFUCKING ISLAM LOTS OF YOUNG Kmtyw BOYS WERE CASTRATED AND LOTS OF Kmtyw WOMEN WERE RAPED AS WELL,THATS WHERE FEMALE GENITALIA MUTILATION COMES FROM, FROM MOFO ISLAM,DATS WHY:flaming::flaming::skeleton::sniper:

[Akua Ma'at]

meda ase for this post Obabele. as dr Ben taught religion is the deification of a culture. as an Afrakan womb-man i understand that for me the only acceptable religion is one based on the spiritual concepts and traditional culture of my people and since understanding this my connection with the mother/father Creator has been deeper, more real, more strengthening to my spirit. like an earlier poster shared i too grew up thinking voodou (all traditional Afrakan spiritual systems really) was evil, savage and anti-god. i say meda ase everyday that the ancestors opened my first eye to the truth. my journey to fully understand and experience the fullness of various (traditional Afrakan) spiritual systems continues...

[hriley]

Indeed, I am not Pro-aAmw when it comes to people being oppressed, but I am not for hate either and when I joined this site I got the first impression this site was about unifying Kmtyw people-no matter the creed.  What I am hearing from you is hate talk.  That turns people away from our cause.  If Kmtyw american are going to reconnect with Voudom it cannot be veiled by hate.  From what I have read that is not Voudom.
 
You do not know who your enemies are...I know who they are.  From your speech you talk like a child who has no responsabilities in this life.  You talk like you do not have a family or children to raise or anything but just making up conspiracy theories.  I know people like you and I am kin to people like you.  You need to grow up.
 
If you read my earlier post I addressed female circumcition and mutalation.  The only thing you can do is wave it back around in your juvenile tirades.  Hear book of Job! "Come gird up loins like a man"  Come lets really talk!
 
Was your real knowledge!  You kickin silly acronyms out of my Holy Book, defacing my G-D, what do you believe, where did you come from.  What is the source of your knowledge or are you just one loud talkin, shock jock, jive talkin fool who is still asleep.  WAKE UP!!!!  You can not build on this crap:skeleton: .  If you live in America you should know this govornmental system is based on Ancient Khemetian society so you should not be against it because it is yours.  You have learn how to protect you and yours.  We have the means and the know how you just have to stop being a loud talkin wanna be revolutionary nigga because I can garauntee you will lose everything for your self and for your children's chilidren.  
 
Picking up a gun in this country (except for self defense) is not how you enforce a political point. SOLIDARITY is.  The peole you have on you little picture are damn fools, Bro Khalid ( may he rest in peace) could have done much more for us.  But some one gave him the wrong message.  There is only one message that G-d is trying to give people from all culture since the wisdom of man:baldeagle:
Man I like you, you got the right passion but the wrong dream or path to that dream.  You should walk and take everyone instead of getting carried there in a casket.
 
Educate your self better than this. Learn something besides Afrocentric mumbo jumbo.  Where is your real knowledge at, al because someone black says something that sounds good don't make it true.
 
By the way how is it every one is in Kmt rappin Kmtyws and Kmtyws are not doing any rapping.  Enlighten me, why are our Kmtyw brothers are so dam weak?

[CANDELA]

Very interesting your post i agree greatly