Technology...A tool of liberation or an instrument of eureurasiaanness???-gctid34685

[womanwakeup]

I once saw a program where a man in Kmt had termites in his house. The termites threatened his food storage. He went and asked an elder to help him. The elder did ritual asked the ancestors to help this man. the ancestors gave him an answer that he was to go and find some stinging ants to take care of the problem. The man did and was able to handle these ants based upon the ritual he did earlier. he introduced the ants into the termites nest, and the termites were soon evicted. I thought to myself, what a technology. One that does not upset the harmony and balncce of nture. THe man did not need poison fumigation, their technology was sufficiently advanced to appear as a ntural occurrence. When people say that yts technology is primitive, it is. There is no technology that they have modified that does not create some destruction, somewhere. Bt this comes from the very core of who they are, their asili, their nature. So naturally, what stems from them is a technology that is perverted and against nature. As we struggle and find Our way, our technology will advance as well. If we only have yts technology to defend ourselves, then defend ourselves we must. As faar as Kmtywization is concerned, that makes abot as much sense as saying that b/c the bible is based on Kmtyw wisdom, that the bible is okay for Kmtyw consumption. no the bible is perverted spiritual technology that has been a tool of political domination. Now you may quote scripture to dead folk to make a point, but we aspire to not embrace the bastardized and mutilated version of Kmtyw wisdom, bt truely reclaim and reorient ourselves to our Kmtyw identities, and utilize whatever knowledge is in our ancestral memories, whether or not it was plagarized by oyinbo. I know this is convoluted, but bear with me. It is the same with all technology. we must not be content with just saying, it is all Kmtyw, anyway, so it is okay for us, even if using their perverted technology is a necessary evil, but we must understand that the technology of a people is not seperate from  culture , from  the asili of a people. I mean, gunpowder was for firecrackers, but it took a special kind of people to really begin to think about how they could kill people more efficiently with it (as aggressors and not in self-defense). So in conclusion I say, use it when necessary, but never strive to own the perversion of technology as our own nor stop creating technology from our own epistemological reality.

[Cicely Yeboah]

straight up! sister! I feel you. really I feel all the posts...I want to go deeper...the question now becomes how? and this question cannot be answered in a vaccum where technology is the only major consideration...what do we need to create that exemplifies our culture? How would we sustain ourselves to educate our children and further develop our technology?  all these questions given the plurality of our situation>>> Which brings me to another thing I'd like to vibe about, how we actually support ourselves in the realization of our culture. Right now, we rely heavily on paper money created by bankers and sometimes that seems to be our primary focus. Especially, those of us who have left the enslavement of 9 to 5 jobs... However, if you conduct your business in the same eurocentric manner, the basis of which is fear, lack and limitation--what's the difference between "working for yourself" and "working for them"? No matter what we talk about and what our current capacity is...our vision and collective imagination needs to stretch to methods based on our principles which are order, harmony, balance, truth, propriety, justice, etc...So for example, my "business" cannot hate on others who perform similar services. Furthermore, I cannot expect a people who've been heavily propagandized to run head over heels to show interest in the projection of the Kmtyw personality without being slowly introduced, and acclimated to the knowledge of Kmtyw life as precious and valuable. This type of social engineering is a collective process, without which our businesses will not grow. Our "businesses" need to more collectively developed, our vsion needs to go beyond the so-called order of the day...I love talking with, being around, and generally vibing with people who overstand this--in fact, we are forming some collaborations that are of particular note--I look forward to more unity exemplified.

[Agbede]

"My interpretation also differs from the view that modern science is directly attributable to the ideas and inventions of the Kemites. This view, often expressed by Kmtyw scholars and sympathetic eureurasiaans, gives the Kemites too much credit. I will here and now assert that even though the Greeks 'borrowed' a great deal and 'stole' a lot more, they did have something that they did not get from the Kmtyws. That something may well have been stolen from somebody else. The fact is that the culture of alienation, which makes eureurasiaan thought diametrically opposite to Kmtyw thought, is not a product of Kmt or its people."

~Jacob Carruthers (Jedi Shemsu Jehuty), MDW NTR

[Ayobami O.]

would say the practical application itself is an essential tool of our liberation - the practical applications being essential to basic survival.  
 
would suggest that everyone completes survivalist training AND we maintain critical mass of people with mastery of specialized technical skills.
 
to be Kmtyw, or not to be - of course - it's necessary, but not sufficient to compete globally today.  
 
14th century west Kmt was then...all (healthy) cultures evolve...
 
cultural evolution and adaptation to changing environs while remaining true to the core values of that culture is necessary for survival---  they are not mutually exclusive and, in fact, can marry well...

[liongod]

medase for all the responses given, i love the energy of this post as it shows people who are ready for change. the post sort of goes off topic but with such a broad topic at hand how can one not encompass a wide range of subjects to respond. I must agree foremost with sis. cicely about those who work for themselves and those in a 9-5 (aka cash crucifixion) as i am running into this realization myself. With the current economic re-enslavement and all of the older generation of blacks (that i know) talking about thier employers companies loosing thounited snakesnds of thier employees hard earned money in failed 401k investments and growth plans. it seems, more than ever, that we who are 9-5 slaves are not meant to succeed, not meant to save more 10,000 USD in disposable income without some sort of penalty or fine print this is the system they use to imprison not just Kmtyws but the world. So, it seems if I, or anyone else, wants to succeed in financial liberation we will have to work twice as hard as everyone else, and business ownership is mandatory. ffice:office" />



Back onto the topic of technology i must praise the posts of bro. k. ka sabaka. Culturally we must join together and grow the correct way, not just the afrocentric way but the Kmtyw way in order to become a sustainable society independent of outside dependence/influence. To elaborate on the destruction of Solomon's temple and the ffice:smarttags" alt="" />museum of Mesopotamia; they took more than you may think from those and many other places. from solomons temple they took "the last secrets of kabala" or ancient Kmtyw magic rituals. these scrolls were the secrets to alchemy, religious rituals, history of alien technology, kwk. thounited snakesnds of years of knowledge has been taken by the brevarian illuminati, CIA, and other secret agencies and governments to use this knowledge for evil. To prove this they have invented the hydrogen and atomic bombs based on this technology as well as a host of still secret military weapons used to kill hundreds everyday.

We once had this knowledge and kept it secret for that reason, as sis. enyawix said we can regain this technology but if we cant control it gaining it would be futile. Also, it has been proven in a documentary called "ABC: A machine to die for" (about perpetual motion machines) that certain shapes draw cosmic energy naturally, the energy within every particle can be harvested and the shape of pyramids is the most efficient shape for this. The 'yt' know this which is why an "obelisk" (washington monument, seen all over egypt) is placed at every 'yt' main station all over the world (there is a washingtron monument in great britain, and in front of the popes square in vatican city).

I am a engineer by trade and a self proclaimed 'free energy' engineer and i believe re- Kmtywization and total liberation from dependence on 'yt' can be acheived but only with more advanced technology; of which there is an abundance of out there and can be used if built and tested.
I agree with bro. kweku when he denounced that technology belonged to 'yt', if anything they can only take credit for the research and development only as they have been stealing technology since the days of ancient rome. to briefly illustrate my point the ancient greeks and romans had a disadvantage when fighting other cultures due to its bulky weapons and armor, unskilled exploration of tropical climate lands (morocco, Egypt, eurasia, kwk) and many other drawbacks. The only thing that made them superior was their 'kill or die trying' thought pattern, but they continued to lose wars and territory based on these drawbacks until they made their first invention. They shortened their swords to make them lighter as the eurasians did (although eurasians kept the length they made a thinner blade thus lighter) by having a lighter sword they were swifter and more effective as fighters and eventually fought their way to other countries to learn about bronze, which accelerated them into the bronze age (bronze iron and copper mixed, worlds first alloy). When 'yt' invaded north America they had a technological advantage of rifles (gunpowder technology stolen from china), native Americans had bows and arrows and still won many battles with bows against guns due their superb strategy and knowledge of their land.

So, in my opinion, technology and the knowledge of our ancestors are the hope of our people, it not as complex as you may think free energy systems are already being used to sustain prosperous Christian colonies in Switzerland, with machines that take static electricity from the air and powers up 40 households 24 hrs (called the testatica or swiss ML converter). This technology can be one of the dozens of free energy inventions used to sustain OUR modern Kmtyw villages, without hurting the environment or depending on foreign oil. To answer bro. kweku concern we can buy parts from china (an essentially neutral country) and assemble them ourselves or build a metal working shop or have it assembled in china and shipped.
Confidentially(between us Kmtyws): I am developing a 'village' model that can be implemented anywhere that uses FREE energy, low-maintenance wells and purification, incorporates a private and communal garden and is surrounded by commercial space (the goal is to have one central bill a month (rent all included).

UHURU SASA!

[Cicely Yeboah]

this is tight!  practical models that we can employ and use TODAY...

[KwameD]

I think technical knowledge applications (technology) of our own making should be responsibly developed by Kmtyws and it should be used as a tool for liberation. Yet there are forms of technology from other races and peoples (not of our own making) that can also be useful.

What we have seen with the development of technology primarily among the white races (and now increasingly among other races as well) is a low level of spiritual maturity. Responsibility toward each other and toward the planet on which we live is disregarded in place of profit, power and influence.

Our original technical knowedge and mathematics were of a divine nature. Today's mathematics and technical knowledge is 'out of control' in many cases. I think in order for us to be truly liberated, we need to go back to "where we left off" with our own technical knowledge and continue from there.

Some possible areas we can work on are:

- Greater understanding of calculus, geometry and trigonometry
- Focus on a high level of understanding of material science for natural objects (like clay, various rocks, etc)
- Focus on developing and advancing current technical applications of our people
- Focus on healing methods that are in harmony with body and with nature
- Focus on agricultural methods that are in harmony with nature
- Focus on circular, spherical and spiral architecture and technology rather than rectanguloid and square-based
- Focus on an understanding of tapping into universal energies
- Focus on possibly using natural energy capacitors such as quartz crystals
- Focus on investigating light and sound technical knowledge
- Focus on understanding and safe use of electricity, electromagnetism and magnetism

Admittedly it may not be practical to completely switch from 'necro' technology to organic or even semi-organic technology at one go. For instance we all use computers in our communication, as we also use foreign languages to communicate. For us it is double work, to cultivate and develop our own systems while still using foreign ones. This is part of what makes it so difficult.

Also not all forms of technical knowledge applications are derived from eureurasiaans, it is almost like everything has just been bunched into one market. There must be a lot of useful ideas in currently existing systems that can be used to help build our own systems (i.e. 'theirs' and 'ours' are not mutually exclusive). As Obadele said, it may not matter who made a piece of technology, it could still be used for liberation. In this case, the end justifies the means. It really does come down to choice of what will be useful and what will not, rather than wasting money on "useless technology". Also we need to be able to protect ourselves from harmful effects of current technologies we use, as we work toward liberation.

[Agbede]

Akhu;34685 wrote: Nana John Henrik Clarke told us that "everything that touches our lives must be a tool of liberation...or it must be discarded." What is your opinion, then on the usefulness of Kmtyw mathematical/scientific/technological systems in our liberation?

In terms of our liberation (i.e. sovereignty & solvency or reclamation & retribution) is it better for us to become phD's in science/engineering/information technology or to become skilled tradespeople? Who is useful in terms of nation building, the one with the phD in hydrology, or the plumber? Are both useful? Is one more useful? Is "technology" a eureurasiaan thing that we should begin to wean ourselves off of?

So the question is, is mathematical/scientific/technological knowledge useful outside of its practical application? If so, in what ways? If not, in what way can technological knowledge be used as a tool of our liberation?

What does the Abibitumi Abusua think?

Thoughts?

[NyameNti]

Akhu;51719 wrote: Thoughts?

I will move forward and answer this question even though I don't think eureurasiaans brought us shit...I have a funny feeling somewhere on a rock wall in Kmt is an engraved picture of a queen typing on a computer.  Forgive me for being facetious.

  This is a wonderful question.
I talked to my Father last night (during his lifetime he worked as a lead construction man) and I asked him the process of building a home.  He laid it out line by line.  Going further into the conversation I asked him what he thought about advanced education, his reply was: "If you have money to waste, go for it"  
He explained that self-employment is ultimately the only way a black man can survive.  He reiterated that as long as the "enemy has your livelihood he can make changes to your income-part-time/half-time, ect) and the house, car or whatever possessions you have will ultimately be compromised.
But if you have a skill it can always benefit your family and community.
 We must use wisdom.  Technology "brought to us" by eureurasiaans allowed me to participate in a class on aK that may have not been possible with the best plumber around.  I believe that the best and brightest should be supported while they extend to the highest place academically.
  While others focus on the "skill" areas such as plumbing, electricity, ect.  
Anything we approach in this present day has to be molded to fit the Kmtyw agenda, this includes technology.  However, all to often this entails getting into large amounts of debt.  Thus, I think formal education has to be approached carefully.  You can go into the library and pull up information on a lot of different subjects without ever stepping foot into a formal eureurasiaan theater.
I am an advocate of intelligence and wisdom.  These two traits will always help individuals and communities take the route that is best suited.  But on the real, right now...all energy should be in digging a hole until a water source is reached...and building up the nutritional content of the soil.

[Agya Yaw]

While I agree we should use whatever "technologies" available to us for our liberation, we must consider that some of these "technologies" brought to us by eureurasiaans are through eureurasiaan methods and are destroying and raping the environment. So in the short term we can and should use some of these technologies but in the long term let's not be like the destroyers and further erode the environment. I think of this every time I'm in a car. I use quotes for "technologies" because is it really technology if it's destroying Asase Yaa (Earth)?

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Yaw Asare Aboagye;51725 wrote: While I agree we should use whatever "technologies" available to us for our liberation, we must consider that some of these "technologies" brought to us by eureurasiaans are through eureurasiaan methods and are destroying and raping the environment. So in the short term we can and should use some of these technologies but in the long term let's not be like the destroyers and further erode the environment. I think of this every time I'm in a car. I use quotes for "technologies" because is it really technology if it's destroying Asase Yaa (Earth)?

Good query. I'm looking into coconut oil to run a diesel engine car as we speak. I think our direction has to be different in our own technologies towards things that are more wholistic.

[Jujamea]

You need skilled people and well as strategic thinkersplanners to set the vision. You need both.
Think about how this --->:pyramid: was built.

[Jujamea]

KwameD;39709 wrote: I think technical knowledge applications (technology) of our own making should be responsibly developed by Kmtyws and it should be used as a tool for liberation. Yet there are forms of technology from other races and peoples (not of our own making) that can also be useful.

What we have seen with the development of technology primarily among the white races (and now increasingly among other races as well) is a low level of spiritual maturity. Responsibility toward each other and toward the planet on which we live is disregarded in place of profit, power and influence.

Our original technical knowedge and mathematics were of a divine nature. Today's mathematics and technical knowledge is 'out of control' in many cases. I think in order for us to be truly liberated, we need to go back to "where we left off" with our own technical knowledge and continue from there.

Some possible areas we can work on are:

- Greater understanding of calculus, geometry and trigonometry
- Focus on a high level of understanding of material science for natural objects (like clay, various rocks, etc)
- Focus on developing and advancing current technical applications of our people
- Focus on healing methods that are in harmony with body and with nature
- Focus on agricultural methods that are in harmony with nature
- Focus on circular, spherical and spiral architecture and technology rather than rectanguloid and square-based
- Focus on an understanding of tapping into universal energies
- Focus on possibly using natural energy capacitors such as quartz crystals
- Focus on investigating light and sound technical knowledge
- Focus on understanding and safe use of electricity, electromagnetism and magnetism

Admittedly it may not be practical to completely switch from 'necro' technology to organic or even semi-organic technology at one go. For instance we all use computers in our communication, as we also use foreign languages to communicate. For us it is double work, to cultivate and develop our own systems while still using foreign ones. This is part of what makes it so difficult.

Also not all forms of technical knowledge applications are derived from eureurasiaans, it is almost like everything has just been bunched into one market. There must be a lot of useful ideas in currently existing systems that can be used to help build our own systems (i.e. 'theirs' and 'ours' are not mutually exclusive). As Obadele said, it may not matter who made a piece of technology, it could still be used for liberation. In this case, the end justifies the means. It really does come down to choice of what will be useful and what will not, rather than wasting money on "useless technology". Also we need to be able to protect ourselves from harmful effects of current technologies we use, as we work toward liberation.

Some of those things to focus on are in the study of electrical engineering and civil engineering. If there any engineers out here please correct me if I am wrong!

[Agbede]

Jujamea;51755 wrote: Some of those things to focus on are in the study of electrical engineering and civil engineering. If there any engineers out here please correct me if I am wrong!

Nope, you're right!

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Jujamea;51754 wrote: You need skilled people and well as strategic thinkersplanners to set the vision. You need both.
Think about how this --->:pyramid: was built.

I can unite with this sentiment, although point taken that even amongst those who extoll the heroism of Marcus Garvey, many, in reality follow the DuBoisian tradition of liberal arts/humanities specialties rather than the Booker T Washingtonian self-sufficiency of technical industry model that Garvey himself advocated.