My Initiation Story.mp3 (38.31mins) [Credo Mutwa]-gctid39908

[KwameD]

This mp3 will likely interest anyone who wants to learn more about the initiation practices in Southern Kmt used to temper body, mind, soul and spirit. It is actually the account of one man's initiation (Credo Mutwa), and the story is gripping. To date, it is the only account I know of in audio format, where Credo Mutwa actually goes into detail about the very nature of the Kmtyw spirituality he was trained in. Of particular interest may be the methods of using hot and cold (fire and water, yin and yang, kan and li etc.) training to temper the energy, as well as the use of various herbs and other purification techniques. It also goes into what happens when a medicine man connects with the ancestral root and can access knowledge directly from the universe. A personal account of this is related, it is quite superb. There is much more here though, one may have to listen to it more than once.

[nuzulu]

hello KwameD thank you very much for posting the credo mutwa mp3 do you have any more by credo mutwa i am trying to find more knowledge by credo

[kofiasr]

Hmmm. I thought initiation and what goes on during that  process was supposed to be secret. I am not sure this is a good thing. :blackicon_confused:

[kofiasr]

very intresting indeed.

[KwameD]

You're welcome Nuzulu. Credo has tons of material available, some of which is online. I wholly recommend his books, I've been reading Indaba, My Children for years now and have also read Kmt is my Witness and his more recent book Zulu Shaman/Song of the Stars. If you're Zulu, you will likely enjoy his books (but that is not contingent on being Zulu). You can also check out his Metatech interview as well as his famous work "The Reptilian Agenda" which is available on youtube or (in longer forms) on google videos.

The initiation story I posted in mp3 comes with the book about Credo entitled Vunited snakesmazulu Credo Mutwa: Zulu High Sanusi (by Bradford Keeney). It is part of a ten-track CD:

1) Call of the Sacred Drums
2) The Incredible Credo Mutwa (awesome poem)
3) Nduli
4) Isindawo
5) My initiation story
6) Umtchongolo
7) Makhosi Asevukile
Sele
9) Blessing by Vunited snakesmazulu
0) American friends

I posted numbers 2, 5 and 9 on abibitumikasa in the past. If you check the thread "Re-Kmtywization & the Ancestral Holographic Matrix", you'll find them there.

The other tracks are music and not talking. As you may know, every Kmtyw group has its "Sacred Drums" that are very important to them. As examples, the Akan have the Fontomfrom, the Atumpan etc, the Ga have their Obonu drums and such. The first track on the CD features the sacred drums of the Zulu.

As far as initiation info on Credo is concerned, his story is scattered in various sources. Apart from the initiation story mp3, the only other sources I know of that have big portions of his story are the book by Bradford Keeney (some of the stories are unbelievable, for instance Credo talks about his training with the "Bantwana", a unique Kmtyw people that are part human, part avian/bird, from the Orion constellation! They have amazing mental powers. That one is a must read if you can manage it. He met some high initiates in Zambia who led him to the Bantwana). Book 4 of Indaba, my Children has another portion of his initiation. These two books have the two main accounts. You can also see this Credo Mutwa website, put up by someone who is enthusiastic about Credo's work.

[Nubianizm]

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[nuzulu]

GREETINGS AGAIN KwameD    Have you seen a new interview by project camelot where they interview two DOGON TRIBE initiates there are some powerfull things told by these two dogon brothers if you have not seen this yet you can on YOUTUBE sorry i have not got the actual title but if you go to youtube and type in PROJECT CAMELOT and look for the latest videos about a week old you should find it take care NUZULU

[Okomfo Akosua]

Thank you Nuzulu for sharing this.  I have included the links so others can also watch.  You are right!  These two Brothas shared some very profound and relative information.  
   
 Interestingly, during the first 2 minutes of viewing the video I became unsettled.  I  sensed that these Brothas were being challenged as to who they are and  what they know.  

Kudos  to both Bikbaye and Naba Iritah for representing  properly!
 
‪PROJECT CAMELOT: DOGON SPEAK TO THE WORLD LIVE EVENT‬‏ - YouTube
 
Master Naba's website
 The Earth Center

[nuzulu]

GREETINGS BROTHER OKOMFO11 yes the first two minutes are very uncomfortable that is because the women interviewing these brothers who's name is kerry casidy is a undercover new age racist. If you see her other videos all she ever talks about is these fake blonde haired blue eyed nordic aliens. This interview must have killed her inside because she new the brothers where on another level to her. she is very arrogant indeed.

[Afia Khalia tweneboa Kodua]

Amazing minus the crakkkas! The brothas are on point. Thank you so much for sharing!!!!!:hugs::5star:

[KwameD]

Greetings all! Nuzulu, I'm in Ghana at the moment and we don't have a good internet connection at home so I'll have to wait until later to see the videos. The bright side to this is that I've spent more time away from the internet. Thanks to (I believe sista) Okomfo11 for including links to the videos. Can't wait to see them soon

[Okomfo Akosua]

It is indeed a benefit to be away from the internet and technology in general.  A statement that I recently heard is "technology consumes the soul."  So true!  Nature (in the bush) and amongst other Kmtyws is the place to be.

Safe Journey Brotha!!!  

:flirt:

[KwameD]

Thank you Sista Okomfo11. It is only when I get to be away from the internet for long enough periods of time that I break a habit that sometimes keeps me in front of the machine too long. On my trip home, I spent more time listening to the radio and just chilling out outside, in town, with friends etc. It was nice.

[KwameD]

--- These are my comments on the Project Camelot interview with the Dogon Initiates ---

1) Westerners sometimes have a difficult time listening to Kmtyws speak in a slow and emphatic way. The speech sounds like they are 'beating about the bush' but that is how they speak. So someone made a comment on youtube that 'the Dogon are a bunch of retards'. They probably can't appreciate the Kmtyw way of speaking. The Western way of speaking is linear, logical etc but you don't always have to speak in a line, you can speak in a circular manner as well as in a spiral manner. Linear is masculine (left-brain-hemisphere), circular is feminine (right-hemisphere) and spiral is unified (left-right hemispheres together)

2) Kerry Cassidy tries to speak from her biases of what she thinks the Dogon are all about, presumably from what she knows regarding Robert Temple's writings and subsequent focus on Sirius, while Mendoza who knows more about these two initiates seems more measured and reasonable in her contributions (from my perspective).

3) Bik-Baye makes comment about the Dogon and the Sirius knowledge in relation to Sirius. Basically the Dogon are more than just that info on the Sirius.

4) Burkina Faso Dogon man (Iri-Ta) speaks of initiation and training as a guardian of humanity. In his own words: "keep the universe in balance", "guardian of the knowledge".

5) Based on what the two initiates (Bik-Baye and Iri-Ta) said regarding the Bayuali and the yennu, I am convinced that that the Dogon initiates are acting as one group of human guardians. They said they control them and they modify the Bayuali and the Yennu. This is what guardians do -- managing the electromagnetic energies and templates in order to achieve harmony. So based on what Iri-Ta said about the Dogon, I'm convinced that they are indeed playing the role of human guardians.

6) Kill the indigenous people playing this role and the electromagnetic portals will be affected, may even shut down. Human guardians are intermediaries between the nature spirit realm and regular humanity. Westerners who are not spiritual will have a hard time understanding this, if not at all.

7) In response to Cassidy's attack on "priesthoods and keeping knowledge secret", Iri-Ta says, "this society doesn't care about spirituality, this society doesn't care about about the world harmony, this society doesn't care about universal balance. This society is just about...I mean I'm talking about the modern society. This society is just about destruction". He is absolutely right! Modern society wants knowledge without EARNING it. To properly earn knowledge takes a process of growing into the knowledge. Knowledge given before one is ready to fully process and use that knowledge is "useless knowledge". This is known among real deal spiritual lineages. One big problem with modern spiritual seekers is to want to know without being ready to know. Knowledge is almost demanded when it should be earned. For this reason, individuals who have earned knowledge have no responsibility to give it away (unless they want to or in the case of these two initiates, have been guided to do so by the ancestors). That which is given away should be appreciated. No seeker has an automatic right to information, just because they asked for it. Also, not every bit of info can be given in a general way. Some information is less harmful than other information. This is universally true even in higher spiritual realms, but unfortunately not every spiritual seeker understands this.

Cassidy sometimes needs to be quiet and listen...SHE HAS DEMONSTRATED IN SEVERAL INTERVIEWS WITH OTHERS THAT SHE IS SOMETIMES CLUELESS ABOUT THE TOPIC! INSTEAD OF LISTENING MORE AND ALLOWING THE INTERVIEWEE TO SPEAK, SHE INTERJECTS. AS AN INTERVIEWER SHE REALLY NEEDS TO WORK ON LISTENING MORE, RATHER THAN INTERJECTING. IT HAS CAUSED HER TO COME ACROSS AS A BIT INEPT IN SOME OTHER INTERVIEWS, WHILE IN THIS ONE SHE IS JUST MESSING WITH THE FLOW OF KNOWLEDGE FROM THE INITIATES. WHEN I LISTEN TO HER, IT SOMETIMES MAKES ME THINK OF NOISE IN AN AUDIO TRANSMISSION. (to her credit, she did settle down later in the interview)

9) But man, I like the Burkina Dogon guy. He totally had Cassidy down with her inept comments. Hahaha...it was awesome to listen to it. This is a major problem with the 'new age'. People sometimes just get up and talk by heart. Folks should know when they are not specialists in an area...when to speak, when to listen, when to ask for info, when to give it..Cassidy really sucks as an interviewer at times. I think she's better off interviewing westerners. When Iri-Ta effectively shows that she did not know what she was talking about and as a typical westerner she is 'stressed out', it really got to her. Her body language just fell apart. Now she was playing with her hair, then drinking from a bottle, then looking away etc...maybe these were just ways to manage in a situation she was not used to being in. At the end of the interview, she just had to have her spiel.

10) This info in this interview is real serious. I hope there are follow-ups and I have already started checking out their website. Iri-Ta says that the Dogon have been talking about the Sirius star and astronomy for thounited snakesnds of years, that this can only occur if you are able to master the dialogue of energies in the universe. These guys are human guardians.

11) Dogon are all over Kmt not only at Bajangara peak in Mali (says Iri-Ta)

12) Bik-Baye is really cool, he comes across as a sage. In the interview he makes a good point that we have not seen as many "Earth Changes" in Kmt because of the balancing effects carried out by the tribes on the continent. Bik-Bai is the man! I really like this brother's vibe. Talking about values, real interesting.

13) Iri-Ta is a sage, man! He says that we first need to understand the Earth (i.e. be at one with the Earth), then we can reach out to the stars. We don't need space ships or machines to do this. This is a real spiritual perspective being given here. I would very much like to gain access to the Sothis cycle calendar which he mentioned in the interview.

14) [My addition]: True spiritual wisdom comes not only with amassing and understanding information on an intellectual knowledge but being able to develop oneself on all levels in order to consciously interact with the make-up of holographic reality. The knowledge has to be lived, interacted with, tested, understood and then matured into wisdom. For this reason, true and accomplished initiates will always trump intellectual 'specialists' when it comes to spirituality.

15) Folks, you just heard two representatives of a human guardian group being interviewed! I personally think that's neat. Over to us now, to do our part.

[nuzulu]

greetings again KwameD greetings  ABIBITUMIKASA FAMILY  there is also another radio broadcast from the Dogon tribe brothers on (blogtalkradio   OTHER WORLD RADIO  talk show Bikbaye Inejnema - Interview The Dogon #54)

there is also another on the the justbernard show also on blogtalkradio