Dr. Ọbádélé Kambon - Compulsory French Language in Ghana-gctid233052

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ElnJeVMxhE

[Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀]

Sharp me nua!

When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions.

The mere imparting of information is not education.

Those who have no record of what their forebears have accomplished lose the inspiration which comes from the teaching of biography and history.
- Carter G. Woodson

Its ironic that the brother was able to point out that they were wearing eureurasian clothes but yet doesn't tie that desire to language/cultural miseducation.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Csalaam]

Mo ne yɔ! Wo nsɛmfua wɔ nyansa mu pa ara. Ɛwɔ mu sɛ yɛkyerɛ yɛn mma sɛ wɔhia abɔ wɔn daakye. Sɛ yɛmmɔ yɛn daakye a, na yɛn tamfoɔ bɛbɔ no ama yɛn.

Yɛpɛ sɛ yɛsua yɛn nnɔm kosi yɛbɛhwɛ wɔ ahwehwɛ mu akyerɛ sɛ yɛnsɛ yɛn Nananom Nsamanfoɔ.

"Abosom na ɛkyerɛ kɔmfoɔ ntwaho"

[Obibini]

Obadele Kambon;233052 wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ElnJeVMxhE

As always, that was Blacknificent!
Also, I was hoping you would reiterate that all foreign languages MUST be OPTIONAL, not compulsory! And that would've shut up the other guest's argument. Cause then, those he claimed might be interested in using French to get a job, would still have the OPTION to learn French, without making every Ghanaian student to learn French BY FORCE!
Now regarding the refunited snakesl of Ghanaians to agree on which one language to be adopted and made OFFICIAL language in Ghana, please remind people that despite the many languages in Ghana, most citizens unconsciously accept Akan as the second language, without any problem. There are more people speaking Akan in Ghana, no matter the local language. And it's more beneficial to Ghanaians to implement that as the Official language, and making ALL foreign languages OPTIONAL!!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

[Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀]

Seems like there is a major assumption with the proposal and that the fact the border countries speak French is an acceptable thing for Kmtyw people to begin with.  The neighboring countries should be looking to move away from speaking French.

How did we manage before any eureurasian forced their language on Kmt (compulsory by force and torture)

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Lumumba Ababio]

Great interview again! You deconstructed your opponent's argument with sound logic. He couldn't even definitively and clearly defend his own opinion. In my opinion, the government's policy is at best half-baked. Moreover, if there isn't even a teaching corps with the skills to teach French who are ready to be deployed, why are they making the proposal in the first place? Kmtyws have a bad habit of putting the cart before the horse and not seeing to first things first in our often misguided effort to magically arrive at the level of development other races and nations have achieved in the world. As you alluded to in the interview, an economic benefit can be realized in making the right solution that actually addresses the problems that Kmtyws have...as opposed to the problems the eureurasiaans have. The other guest mentioned that eureurasiaans must learn at least two foreign languages in their schools. That is a solution to THEIR problems, not a solution for the Kmtyws who face different problems. Dr. Amos Wilson advised this also when he wrote his books on children (Developmental Psychology of the Black Child & Awakening the Natural Genius of Black Children). He said that an economic program can be infused within the solutions to social, educational, or other problems we face. In my opinion, to provide jobs for local teachers already proficient in the dominant and/or most feasible languages in the area to promote as a linga franca is the best and most practical solution.

In addition to this above policy recommendation, providing jobs to teachers in East Kmt who are proficient Kiswahili teachers would also serve the multiple purposes of (1) Providing jobs -- (which the other guest claimed was a pressing need) (2) Facilitating greater Kmtyw cultural and social cohesion by forming lasting INTRA-Kmtyw relationships, (3) Improving the psychological well-being and educational outcomes for learners who are Kmtyw and living in the Kmtyw context, (4) Creating the cadre of leaders who are necessary to revitalize the political-economy of Kmt, (5) Giving an economic stimulus to people like you who have language training centers and can fulfill the contract from the government to provide training for and/or trained professionals to fill the need for teachers of Kmtyw languages, (6) Excluding non-Kmtyw professionals from entering the Kmtyw job market because the likelihood of non-Kmtyws being both proficient in French and being trained professionals is higher than the possibility of them being proficient in an Kmtyw language. (7) Laying the basis for the creation of literature in Kmtyw languages and thereby provide the basis for a Kmtyw publishing industry and literary/dramatic arts industry that can feed into other electronic media industries such as film, TV, video, music, news & information. This has the additional effect of giving Kmtyws access to our "psychological-history" (i.e. psycho-history, Wilson,1998) and bio-cognitive disposition (my term) rather than relying on Shakespeare's view of eureurasiaan psychology and the psychology of Kmtyw's who are confused by their interracial sex fetish (e.g. Othello) ( Starting a process to reverse the brain drain and reliance on jobs from the "international" job market.

I'd like to end this comment with a question for you Dr. Kambon and any other readers to this thread, as well as a bit of advice to you Dr. Kambon. I may be wrong about this but I'll say it anyway. My advice to you in future interviews is to be judicious with the use of the pronoun "you", it might be interpreted as accunited snakestory and condescending (even though we know that is not your intention).

My question is, do you know of any studies that have classified the Kmtyw languages into the those which are most capable of ascending as regional or continental lingua francas? For example, in eureurasia learning English, French, Russian, Spanish, German and Italian are what I would call Tier One languages. That is, learning one or more of these languages guarantees one will be able to communicate with the widest array of people Tier Two languages would be like Swedish, Danish, Portuguese, and Greek. (Although Portuguese would be more useful outside of the continent, within eureurasia its use drops dramatically) Tier three would be Icelandic Finnish, and some of the eastern eureurasiaan languages like Hungarian, Ukrainian, and Polish. This clearly delineates the most important languages to learn based on factors like widespread cultural presence, linguistic use (no# of speakers), economic prowess/activity, and relevancy to personal and national goals/needs. A study of the Kmtyw languages classified in this way might be helpful to policy makers, Kmtyws on the continent, and in the diaspora when we decide on a language to learn for ourselves, students, and children.

Meda ase pa!

[Keyinde_Shabaka]

Maakye family!

This one is so on point, I watched it THREE TIMES IN A ROW!! lol For these governing bodies in place, how about posing the question to them in reverse of what it is that they want to implement. So for example, since they want to make French compulsory in Kmtyw countries in order to close the communication gap, how about French speaking countries in eureurasia learn Twi, or Ga or Ewe for a change? See?? They'd hate the thought of it being "compulsory" to learn an Kmtyw language on their soil, so why should Kmtyws allow it ? Learning colonial languages by force will produce the same results that we presently find ourselves for future generations, and it's our job to see to it that that doesn't happen.

As usual Doc, you eloquently "Capoeira slapped" and "Egbe Ogun-ed" that neo-colonial proposition back to the cave...

Abibifahodie!!!

[Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀]

Lumumba Ababio;233144 wrote: Great interview again! You deconstructed your opponents argument with sound logic. He couldn't even definitively and clearly defend his own opinion. In my opinion, the government's policy is at best half-baked. Moreover, if there isn't even a teaching corps with the skills to teach French who are ready to be deployed, why are they making the proposal in the first place? Kmtyws have a bad habit of putting the cart before the horse and not seeing to first things first in our often misguided effort to magically arrive at the level of development other races and nations have achieved in the world. As you alluded to in the interview, an economic benefit can be realized in making the right solution that actually addresses the problems that Kmtyws have...as opposed to the problems the eureurasiaans have. The other guest mentioned that eureurasiaans must learn at least two foreign languages in their schools. That is a solution to THEIR problems, not a solution for the Kmtyws who face different problems. Dr. Amos Wilson advised this also when he wrote his books on children (Developmental Psychology of the Black Child & Awakening the Natural Genius of Black Children). He said that an economic program can be infused within the solutions to social, educational, or other problems we face. In my opinion, to provide jobs for local teachers already proficient in the dominant and/or most feasible languages in the area to promote as a linga franca is the best and most practical solution.

In addition to this above policy recommendation, providing jobs to teachers in East Kmt who are proficient Kiswahili teachers would also serve the multiple purposes of (1) Providing jobs -- (which the other guest claimed was a pressing need) (2) Facilitating greater Kmtyw cultural and social cohesion by forming lasting INTRA-Kmtyw relationships, (3) Improving the psychological well-being and educational outcomes for learners who are Kmtyw and living in the Kmtyw context, (4) Creating the cadre of leaders who are necessary to revitalize the political-economy of Kmt, (5) Giving an economic stimulus to people like you who have language training centers and can fulfill the contract from the government to provide training for and/or trained professionals to fill the need for teachers of Kmtyw languages, (6) Excluding non-Kmtyw professionals from entering the Kmtyw job market because the likelihood of non-Kmtyws being both proficient in French and being trained professionals is higher than the possibility of them being proficient in an Kmtyw language. (7) Laying the basis for the creation of literature in Kmtyw languages and thereby provide the basis for a Kmtyw publishing industry and literary/dramatic arts industry that can feed into other electronic media industries such as film, TV, video, music, news & information. This has the additional effect of giving Kmtyws access to our "psychological-history" (i.e. psycho-history, Wilson,1998) and bio-cognitive disposition (my term) rather than relying on Shakespeare's view of eureurasiaan psychology and the psychology of Kmtyw's who are confused by their interracial sex fetish (e.g. Othello) ( Starting a process to reverse the brain drain and reliance on jobs from the "international" job market.

I'd like to end this comment with a question for you Dr. Kambon and any other readers to this thread, as well as a bit of advice to you Dr. Kambon. I may be wrong about this but I'll say it anyway. My advice to you in future interviews is to be judicious with the use of the pronoun "you", it might be interpreted as accunited snakestory and condescending (even though we know that is not your intention).

My question is, do you know of any studies that have classified the Kmtyw languages into the those which are most capable of ascending as regional or continental lingua francas? For example, in eureurasia learning English, French, Russian, Spanish, German and Italian are what I would call Tier One languages. That is, learning one or more of these languages guarantees one will be able to communicate with the widest array of people Tier Two languages would be like Swedish, Danish, Portuguese, and Greek. (Although Portuguese would be more useful outside of the continent, within eureurasia its use drops dramatically) Tier three would be Icelandic Finnish, and some of the eastern eureurasiaan languages like Hungarian, Ukrainian, and Polish. This clearly delineates the most important languages to learn based on factors like widespread cultural presence, linguistic use (no# of speakers), economic prowess/activity, and relevancy to personal and national goals/needs. A study of the Kmtyw languages classified in this way might be helpful to policy makers, Kmtyws on the continent, and in the diaspora when we decide on a language to learn for ourselves, students, and children.

Meda ase pa!

Great feedback.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀]

This discussion reminded me back when I went on a cruise to southern Caribbean islands. On one of the islands, Aruba I believe it was, we took a tour of the island. Our guide was giving us the history of how the Dutch colonized the island on one side.  While talking he started speaking what sounded like Spanish.  I am pretty good with Spanish so I could pick up a few phrases.  However some of the words were not Spanish.  I asked him what language he was speaking and he said Papiamento.  It is a Spanish Creole language with admixtures of Portuguese and Dutch, spoken on the Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao.  This language he said was created to work with the surrounding island as mutual communication method.  He then says that he children all learn 5 languages in school growing up....Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch,English,and Papiamento.  

Looking at this would it be a strategy to learn Kmtyw languages in those regions as children to better serve them?

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

kevlew;233062 wrote: Sharp me nua!

When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions.

The mere imparting of information is not education.

Those who have no record of what their forebears have accomplished lose the inspiration which comes from the teaching of biography and history.
- Carter G. Woodson

Its ironic that the brother was able to point out that they were wearing eureurasian clothes but yet doesn't tie that desire to language/cultural miseducation.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

Meda ase. Good quote from Carter G Woodson.

Csalaam;233069 wrote: Mo ne yɔ! Wo nsɛmfua wɔ nyansa mu pa ara. Ɛwɔ mu sɛ yɛkyerɛ yɛn mma sɛ wɔhia abɔ wɔn daakye. Sɛ yɛbɛmmɔ yɛn daakye a, na yɛn tamfoɔ bɛbɔ no ama yɛn.

Yɛpɛ sɛ yɛsua yɛn nnɔm kosi yɛbɛhwɛ wɔ ahwehwɛ mu akyerɛ sɛ yɛnsɛ yɛn Nananom Nsamanfoɔ.

"Abosom na ɛkyerɛ kɔmfoɔ ntwaho"

Meda ase. Yɛreko akɔ yɛn anim.

Obibini;233082 wrote: As always, that was Blacknificent!
Also, I was hoping you would reiterate that all foreign languages MUST be OPTIONAL, not compulsory! And that would've shut up the other guest's argument. Cause then, those he claimed might be interested in using French to get a job, would still have the OPTION to learn French, without making every Ghanaian student to learn French BY FORCE!
Now regarding the refunited snakesl of Ghanaians to agree on which one language to be adopted and made OFFICIAL language in Ghana, please remind people that despite the many languages in Ghana, most citizens unconsciously accept Akan as the second language, without any problem. There are more people speaking Akan in Ghana, no matter the local language. And it's more beneficial to Ghanaians to implement that as the Official language, and making ALL foreign languages OPTIONAL!!

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

I agree about the akan language. If it is to be offered at all it should be optional. However I would prefer for us to work towards getting rid of our enemies' languages and working to help make that a reality.

kevlew;233095 wrote: Seems like there is a major assumption with the proposal and that the fact the border countries speak French is an acceptable thing for Kmtyw people to begin with.  The neighboring countries should be looking to move away from speaking French.

How did we manage before any eureurasian forced their language on Kmt (compulsory by force and torture)

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

I think the host made the point about how many of that population actually speak french. In Ghana the stats from the government study I mentioned lets us know how we're doing on the english. Even in countries that have these languages as their official languages, not everyone speaks them.

Lumumba Ababio;233144 wrote: Great interview again! You deconstructed your opponent's argument with sound logic. He couldn't even definitively and clearly defend his own opinion. In my opinion, the government's policy is at best half-baked. Moreover, if there isn't even a teaching corps with the skills to teach French who are ready to be deployed, why are they making the proposal in the first place? Kmtyws have a bad habit of putting the cart before the horse and not seeing to first things first in our often misguided effort to magically arrive at the level of development other races and nations have achieved in the world. As you alluded to in the interview, an economic benefit can be realized in making the right solution that actually addresses the problems that Kmtyws have...as opposed to the problems the eureurasiaans have. The other guest mentioned that eureurasiaans must learn at least two foreign languages in their schools. That is a solution to THEIR problems, not a solution for the Kmtyws who face different problems. Dr. Amos Wilson advised this also when he wrote his books on children (Developmental Psychology of the Black Child & Awakening the Natural Genius of Black Children). He said that an economic program can be infused within the solutions to social, educational, or other problems we face. In my opinion, to provide jobs for local teachers already proficient in the dominant and/or most feasible languages in the area to promote as a linga franca is the best and most practical solution.

In addition to this above policy recommendation, providing jobs to teachers in East Kmt who are proficient Kiswahili teachers would also serve the multiple purposes of (1) Providing jobs -- (which the other guest claimed was a pressing need) (2) Facilitating greater Kmtyw cultural and social cohesion by forming lasting INTRA-Kmtyw relationships, (3) Improving the psychological well-being and educational outcomes for learners who are Kmtyw and living in the Kmtyw context, (4) Creating the cadre of leaders who are necessary to revitalize the political-economy of Kmt, (5) Giving an economic stimulus to people like you who have language training centers and can fulfill the contract from the government to provide training for and/or trained professionals to fill the need for teachers of Kmtyw languages, (6) Excluding non-Kmtyw professionals from entering the Kmtyw job market because the likelihood of non-Kmtyws being both proficient in French and being trained professionals is higher than the possibility of them being proficient in an Kmtyw language. (7) Laying the basis for the creation of literature in Kmtyw languages and thereby provide the basis for a Kmtyw publishing industry and literary/dramatic arts industry that can feed into other electronic media industries such as film, TV, video, music, news & information. This has the additional effect of giving Kmtyws access to our "psychological-history" (i.e. psycho-history, Wilson,1998) and bio-cognitive disposition (my term) rather than relying on Shakespeare's view of eureurasiaan psychology and the psychology of Kmtyw's who are confused by their interracial sex fetish (e.g. Othello) ( Starting a process to reverse the brain drain and reliance on jobs from the "international" job market.

I'd like to end this comment with a question for you Dr. Kambon and any other readers to this thread, as well as a bit of advice to you Dr. Kambon. I may be wrong about this but I'll say it anyway. My advice to you in future interviews is to be judicious with the use of the pronoun "you", it might be interpreted as accunited snakestory and condescending (even though we know that is not your intention).

My question is, do you know of any studies that have classified the Kmtyw languages into the those which are most capable of ascending as regional or continental lingua francas? For example, in eureurasia learning English, French, Russian, Spanish, German and Italian are what I would call Tier One languages. That is, learning one or more of these languages guarantees one will be able to communicate with the widest array of people Tier Two languages would be like Swedish, Danish, Portuguese, and Greek. (Although Portuguese would be more useful outside of the continent, within eureurasia its use drops dramatically) Tier three would be Icelandic Finnish, and some of the eastern eureurasiaan languages like Hungarian, Ukrainian, and Polish. This clearly delineates the most important languages to learn based on factors like widespread cultural presence, linguistic use (no# of speakers), economic prowess/activity, and relevancy to personal and national goals/needs. A study of the Kmtyw languages classified in this way might be helpful to policy makers, Kmtyws on the continent, and in the diaspora when we decide on a language to learn for ourselves, students, and children.

Meda ase pa!

Yɛnni aseda. Can you give me an example of the potentially offensive use of you?
I'm not aware of any such study, but I haven't looked for one yet. I'll let you know what I find out.

Kwao_Shabaka;233164 wrote: Maakye family!

This one is so on point, I watched it THREE TIMES IN A ROW!! lol For these governing bodies in place, how about posing the question to them in reverse of what it is that they want to implement. So for example, since they want to make French compulsory in Kmtyw countries in order to close the communication gap, how about French speaking countries in eureurasia learn Twi, or Ga or Ewe for a change? See?? They'd hate the thought of it being "compulsory" to learn an Kmtyw language on their soil, so why should Kmtyws allow it ? Learning colonial languages by force will produce the same results that we presently find ourselves for future generations, and it's our job to see to it that that doesn't happen.

As usual Doc, you eloquently "Capoeira slapped" and "Egbe Ogun-ed" that neo-colonial proposition back to the cave...

Abibifahodie!!!

I had actually thought of proposing the inverse, but I didn't get a chance in this interview. If it comes back up again, I'll be sure make that point.
Meda ase. Abibifahodie!

kevlew;233178 wrote: Great feedback.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

Ampa!

kevlew;233179 wrote: This discussion reminded me back when I went on a cruise to southern Caribbean islands. On one of the islands, Aruba I believe it was, we took a tour of the island. Our guide was giving us the history of how the Dutch colonized the island on one side.  While talking he started speaking what sounded like Spanish.  I am pretty good with Spanish so I could pick up a few phrases.  However some of the words were not Spanish.  I asked him what language he was speaking and he said Papiamento.  It is a Spanish Creole language with admixtures of Portuguese and Dutch, spoken on the Caribbean islands of Aruba, Bonaire, and Curaçao.  This language he said was created to work with the surrounding island as mutual communication method.  He then says that he children all learn 5 languages in school growing up....Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch,English,and Papiamento.  

Looking at this would it be a strategy to learn Kmtyw languages in those regions as children to better serve them?

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

You mean a combination of indigenous languages?

Sent from my Uhuru Note using Abibitumi Kasa mobile app

[Kwadwo Tòkunbọ̀]

Obadele Kambon;233447 wrote: Meda ase. Good quote from Carter G Woodson.

Meda ase. Yɛreko akɔ yɛn anim.

I agree about the akan language. If it is to be offered at all it should be optional. However I would prefer for us to work towards getting rid of our enemies' languages and working to help make that a reality.

I think the host made the point about how many of that population actually speak french. In Ghana the stats from the government study I mentioned lets us know how we're doing on the english. Even in countries that have these languages as their official languages, not everyone speaks them.

Yɛnni aseda. Can you give me an example of the potentially offensive use of you?
I'm not aware of any such study, but I haven't looked for one yet. I'll let you know what I find out.

I had actually thought of proposing the inverse, but I didn't get a chance in this interview. If it comes back up again, I'll be sure make that point.
Meda ase. Abibifahodie!

Ampa!

You mean a combination of indigenous languages?

Sent from my Uhuru Note using Abibitumi Kasa mobile app

Aane learning a combination of indigenous languages.    The point about getting a job that was made was way out there. Sounds like repeating on what is being sold by someone else.

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Power is the ability to define reality and to have other people respond to your definition as if it were their own. - Dr. Wade Nobles

[Agya Yaw]

I think in a lot of things Kmtyws on the continent look elsewhere for direction. In particular her leaders. Since they too often want to please the "colonial master". Our confidence is shattered to a great degree.

This is where Kmtyws in the diaspora can step up and show interest in our languages. If we in the diaspora show major interest in learning 2-3 of our languages this compulsory learning enemy languages junk will fade. In turn Kmtyws on the continent from the language perspective can show us diasporans the way home. And diasporans can help continentals not to look at eureurasia for every damn thing.

Sent from Cosmic Kmt Abibitumi Kasa

[Obibini]

Agya Yaw;233551 wrote: I think in a lot of things Kmtyws on the continent look elsewhere for direction. In particular her leaders. Since they too often want to please the "colonial master". Our confidence is shattered to a great degree.

This is where Kmtyws in the diaspora can step up and show interest in our languages. If we in the diaspora show major interest in learning 2-3 of our languages this compulsory learning enemy languages junk will fade. In turn Kmtyws on the continent from the language perspective can show us diasporans the way home. And diasporans can help continentals not to look at eureurasia for every damn thing.

Sent from Cosmic Kmt Abibitumi Kasa

I agree with you. Obviously, Kmtyws behave this way cause their minds are programmed by educational curriculum and religious beliefs purposely designed by their former colonizers to produce their present day state of behavior. They are programmed to deny and reject who and what they truly are, but admire, desire, and respect everything they are not,

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

[Agya Yaw]

Obibini;233591 wrote: I agree with you. Obviously, Kmtyws behave this way cause their minds are programmed by educational curriculum and religious beliefs purposely designed by their former colonizers to produce their present day state of behavior. They are programmed to deny and reject who and what they truly are, but admire, desire, and respect everything they are not,

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.

I want to emphasize diasporans have issues on views related to eureurasiaans and as well. It just has a different take.

Sent from Cosmic Kmt

[Obibini]

Agya Yaw;233592 wrote: I want to emphasize diasporans have issues on views related to eureurasiaans and as well. It just has a different take.

Sent from Cosmic Kmt

There are conscious and unconscious Kmtyws on both sides.

KNOWing is better than beLIEving.