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cuitocuanavale;256435 wrote: Yes they do but the images shown are lightened up like many other images in ancient Kemet.

I am curios to how they translated the mdw ntr.  Do you have that link handy to share?

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Chance;256423 wrote:


As for Gamal Nasser, I would consider him a white aAmw also. If not white, at least aAmw but I've known mexicans that are as dark as me too...

aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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This High priest of the "Libyan" tribe of  Meshwesh discovered in royal Egyptian tomb of the Libyan Pharaoh Psusennes is reminiscent of Fulani men

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cuitocuanavale;256432 wrote: This diagram has been proven false by many scholars like Dr. Manu Anpim. The images were lightened up.

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Here is what Manu Ampim says about the rendering :

THE KURT SETHE - RICHARD LEPSIUS VERSION
Richard Lepsius conducted research in Egypt from 1842-1845 and his work was originally published in 12 volumes from 1849-1856. However, the KV 11 "Table of Nations" scene and other materials were not published until the later 1913 supplemental edition, which was compiled by Edward Naville and Ludwig Borchardt, and edited by Kurt Sethe.

The so-called 1913 Sethe/Lepsius version is a condensed reproduction of the original tomb scene. Sethe/Lepsius simply condensed the 4 images for each of the four groups to 1 representative for each of the four groups (i.e. the 16 images were reduced to 4 images). Apparently, this was done because all 4 of the images for each group are identical, and thus they simply omitted the redundant images. The texts were also condensed from their original horizontal position in front of each of the 4 images per group to a single vertical column in front of 1 group representative.

Nevertheless, this condensed Sethe/Lepsius reproduction version of the "Table of Nations" is ACCURATE in both the representation of the images and the positioning of the texts:

http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm

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Efuany;256438 wrote: aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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The aAmw nationalism alliance was political, kind of like how the aAmws of North Sudan are doing today.

Now of course their are those who will say that the aAmws of North Sudan are not Kmtyw but......

Efuany;256438 wrote: aAmw Nationalism... see, he tells you himself, he's not Kmtyw. Just on "borrowed" land.

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kevlew;256440 wrote: Here is what Manu Ampim says about the rendering :

THE KURT SETHE - RICHARD LEPSIUS VERSION
Richard Lepsius conducted research in Egypt from 1842-1845 and his work was originally published in 12 volumes from 1849-1856. However, the KV 11 "Table of Nations" scene and other materials were not published until the later 1913 supplemental edition, which was compiled by Edward Naville and Ludwig Borchardt, and edited by Kurt Sethe.

The so-called 1913 Sethe/Lepsius version is a condensed reproduction of the original tomb scene. Sethe/Lepsius simply condensed the 4 images for each of the four groups to 1 representative for each of the four groups (i.e. the 16 images were reduced to 4 images). Apparently, this was done because all 4 of the images for each group are identical, and thus they simply omitted the redundant images. The texts were also condensed from their original horizontal position in front of each of the 4 images per group to a single vertical column in front of 1 group representative.

Nevertheless, this condensed Sethe/Lepsius reproduction version of the "Table of Nations" is ACCURATE in both the representation of the images and the positioning of the texts:

http://manuampim.com/ramesesIII.htm

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Manu Ampim who I know states that the images are ACCURATE ....emphasis his.

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kevlew;256442 wrote: Manu Ampim who I know states that the images are ACCURATE ....emphasis his.

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Sorry. That was my mistake. I was incorrect in quoting him. I am thinking of another scholar. I will post the article when I find it.

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cuitocuanavale;256441 wrote: The aAmw nationalism alliance was political, kind of like how the aAmws of North Sudan are doing today.

Now of course their are those who will say that the aAmws of North Sudan are not Kmtyw but......

I am aware that there are people in Egypt who are phenotypically black, Nkrumah's wife wasn't one of them.

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cuitocuanavale;256443 wrote: Sorry. That was my mistake. I was incorrect in quoting him. I am thinking of another scholar. I will post the article when I find it.

This is a great discussion...

The description given in the pic was given by Chiek Anta Diop. The so called Egyptologist tried to discredit his work and attempted to usurp Kmtyw accomplishments by not acknowledging the description.  He smashed them in 1974 in Cairo.

Manu is a staunch primary evidence scholar. To the point of this thread our ancestors wrote on the walls in several tombs who they were and made distinguishing comments about the invaders whose descendants are still there.

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Efuany;256444 wrote: I am aware that there are people in Egypt who are phenotypically black, Nkrumah's wife wasn't one of them.

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These people are from North Sudan not Egypt and they identify as aAmws.

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cuitocuanavale;256436 wrote: Just look at the Libyans (tehenu and Temehu) of the 22nd and 23rd dynasty. They were absolutely not white. They were as black as the Nubians. Dr. John Henry Clarke even stated that the Libyan Dynasties of Kemet were Black.

Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.

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kevlew;256448 wrote: Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.

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Enemies who allied with other eureurasians...

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This "anything with black is black" mentality will kill us. It's like when Americans say "bi-racial black" or "multiracial black"? What in the name of Heru is that supposed to mean? If I have to wonder what you are, you are not black.

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kevlew;256449 wrote: Enemies who allied with other eureurasians...

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The bulk of the inscription deals with Merneptah's victory over the Libyans, but the last 3 of the 28 lines shift to Canaan:[12]

The princes are prostrate, saying, "Peace!"
Not one is raising his head among the Nine Bows.
Now that Tehenu (Libya) has come to ruin,
Hatti is pacified;
The Canaan has been plundered into every sort of woe:
Ashkelon has been overcome;
Gezer has been captured;
Yano'am is made non-existent.
Israel is laid waste and his seed is not;
Hurru is become a widow because of Egypt.

The "nine bows" is a term the Egyptians used to refer to their enemies - the actual enemies varied according to time and circumstance.[13] Hatti and Hurru are Syro-Palestine, Canaan and Israel are smaller units, and Ashkelon, Gezer and Yanoam are cities within the region; according to the stele, all these entities fell under the rule of the Egyptian empire at that time.[14]

Enemies then....enemies now....

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kevlew;256448 wrote: Here's what our ancestors wrote about the Tehenu

Merenptah Stele (Israel Stele): Tehennu as the name for Lybians appears twice in the inscription: line 11 (context: In a single year were the Tjehenu burned!) and 21 (context: [Egypt's towns] relate the Libyan victories of Merneptah). Transliteration: T-H-n-nw-w (tethering rope-twisted wick/flax-water-pot-rope) plus determinatives: enemy-people-foreign land (throwing stick-man, woman, three sticks-three hills). Similar determinatives (enemy-people) are used to describe Israel in line 27.

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Yes. They saw the Libyans as their enemies just like they did the Nubians for the majority of the history of Kemet. But that description a lone does not give us any details about their ethnography.

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