TRIBUTE TO KIMBWANDENDE KIA BUNSEKI FU-KIAU - Dikenga dia Kongo-gctid108609

[Agya Kwaku]

@Tenkamenin That passage made me think of a passage in Self Healing Power and Therapy " A word, a teaching, a gift, a laughter or an explanation from a violent and bloody mind has a impact on it's consumer. We are what we consume, learn, hear, see and feel.
Also I think Maat is Simba Simbi. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

[Tenkamenin]

ManiKongo;146363 wrote: That's what the Mdw Ntr say? Are you speaking of "The Eloquent Peasant" ?
That's what came up first when I searched Khun-Anup and the story makes me think of the Mbôngi book, the Kinzônzi aspect in particular.

Yes I forgot to mention that Dr. Karenga renamed the Kemetian books, so yes the book of Khun-Anup is the Eloquent Peasant.

[Tenkamenin]

Agya Kwaku;146458 wrote: @Tenkamenin That passage made me think of a passage in Self Healing Power and Therapy " A word, a teaching, a gift, a laughter or an explanation from a violent and bloody mind has a impact on it's consumer. We are what we consume, learn, hear, see and feel.
Also I think Maat is Simba Simbi. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts

If Simba Simbi is to hold up that which holds you up then MAAT is certainly rooted in it. To me it seems as if Simba Simbi is the force that activates or holds up our entire cosmology, which includes MAAT. As you know in the Akan culture we believe that before one takes a body on this earth the Creator endows in us a message a purpose which we relentlessly try to fulfill. In essence it's Simba Simbi that holds up our divine message/purpose. MAAT governs us, however it's Simba Simbi that holds MAAT up. Our family, Simba Simbi holds that up too, etc.

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Tenkamenin;146569 wrote: Yes I forgot to mention that Dr. Karenga renamed the Kemetian books, so yes the book of Khun-Anup is the Eloquent Peasant.

Dr. Jacob Carruthers has the name transliterated as Khun Inpu in his Mdw Ntr. I think Inpu (transliterated as Inpw) is correct as that is the indigenous name of Anubis, which is said to be part of his name.

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Tenkamenin;144282 wrote: Manikongo, all great points, language is essential to unlocking the mysteries of this unifying force.

Question, is Simba Simbi Maat?

I've been following this thread. Ngânga Fu-Kiâu explained the concept to us in Kikôngo class around 2003-2004 before the book was written and I understood sîmbi to be broad enough to incorporate various aspects of Kmtyw spirituality inclusive of, but not limited to, "Maat". Because Sîmbi is that which holds you up, in the course of one's life path, could be what holds one up. At another point along the path, it could be one's own "ba"
or one's own


"ka". I think Sîmbi is broad enough to incorporate these and more, yet specific enough that at any given point in time, one can focus on that specific spiritual (or even physical) phenomenon which is holding one up and is the source of power in one's own life and, in the extended sense, life itself. Sîmba, in turn, is an action, an exhortation, a command for one to hold Sîmbi up and to keep it at the forefront and, in doing so, be actively engaged in choosing life which is the first choice that all Kmtyws chose as a sperm. Any time we violate that first choice that we made, we are going against that which holds us up and life itself and we always face the consequences of choosing incorrectly by choosing death in its various forms.

[Tenkamenin]

Dr. O,

Thanks for the clarification, it's empowering to connect all of the dots. Here is another dot I've connected, when an Akom pours libation they start by dropping a bit East, West, North, South and proceed to the center. It's the Didi in which we invoke God, Earth, Abosom, Ancestors, etc.

[Ɔbenfo Ọbádélé]

Tenkamenin;146790 wrote: Dr. O,

Thanks for the clarification, it's empowering to connect all of the dots. Here is another dot I've connected, when an Akom pours libation they start by dropping a bit East, West, North, South and proceed to the center. It's the Didi in which we invoke God, Earth, Abosom, Ancestors, etc.

When you say an "Akom" are you referring to an Ɔkɔmfoɔ?

[Tenkamenin]

Obadele Kambon;146792 wrote: When you say an "Akom" are you referring to an Ɔkɔmfoɔ?

Yes I mean an Okomfoo

[Mani Kongo]

Tenkamenin;146088 wrote: I was reading Karenga's translation of Kemetian literature and in the Book of Khun-Anup the author says,

"The balancing of the land lies in Maat- truth, justice and righteousness. Do no speak falsely for you are great; do not act lightly for you have weight; be not untrue for you are the balance and do not swerve for you are the standard. You are on the level with the balance. If it tilts, then, you will lean too. Do not drift, rather steer."

After reading that passage I immediately thought of this thread. :sankofa:

On page 80 Part B of Chapter 7 " Keeping One's Balance", what is written there all the way up to the introduction of the deviations is connecting to that.

Agya Kwaku;146459 wrote: @Tenkamenin That passage made me think of a passage in Self Healing Power and Therapy " A word, a teaching, a gift, a laughter or an explanation from a violent and bloody mind has a impact on it's consumer. We are what we consume, learn, hear, see and feel.
Also I think Maat is Simba Simbi. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

Inga, i bôbo. I like the connection you made with this passage.

Tenkamenin;146574 wrote: If Simba Simbi is to hold up that which holds you up then MAAT is certainly rooted in it. To me it seems as if Simba Simbi is the force that activates or holds up our entire cosmology, which includes MAAT. As you know in the Akan culture we believe that before one takes a body on this earth the Creator endows in us a message a purpose which we relentlessly try to fulfill. In essence it's Simba Simbi that holds up our divine message/purpose. MAAT governs us, however it's Simba Simbi that holds MAAT up. Our family, Simba Simbi holds that up too, etc.

It really makes me think of the Mbôngi. Since the Mbôngi is the Governance Institution,  kedika, kinènga amongst others are fundamental elements of the Mbôngi which points to "MAAT governs us". Sîmbi definitely holds the mbôngi up too.

Obadele Kambon;146781 wrote: I've been following this thread. Ngânga Fu-Kiâu explained the concept to us in Kikôngo class around 2003-2004 before the book was written and I understood sîmbi to be broad enough to incorporate various aspects of Kmtyw spirituality inclusive of, but not limited to, "Maat". Because Sîmbi is that which holds you up, in the course of one's life path, could be what holds one up. At another point along the path, it could be one's own "ba"
or one's own


"ka". I think Sîmbi is broad enough to incorporate these and more, yet specific enough that at any given point in time, one can focus on that specific spiritual (or even physical) phenomenon which is holding one up and is the source of power in one's own life and, in the extended sense, life itself. Sîmba, in turn, is an action, an exhortation, a command for one to hold Sîmbi up and to keep it at the forefront and, in doing so, be actively engaged in choosing life which is the first choice that all Kmtyws chose as a sperm. Any time we violate that first choice that we made, we are going against that which holds us up and life itself and we always face the consequences of choosing incorrectly by choosing death in its various forms.

The "first choice" makes me think of the part of SHPT that I mentioned above. "Every action committed by a human being has an indicating needle that oscillates[...]" p.81

[Agya Kwaku]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHkxP4VFLJw

[Tenkamenin]

"Ghanda is to join the circle of nganga and become, oneself, nganga, a doer"

This particular passage made me think of all the college graduates I run into with MBAs that can't create employment for themselves. A Master in the Kmtyw context is to be a doer....period!

[Mani Kongo]

Tenkamenin;149126 wrote: "Ghanda is to join the circle of nganga and become, oneself, nganga, a doer"

This particular passage made me think of all the college graduates I run into with MBAs that can't create employment for themselves. A Master in the Kmtyw context is to be a doer....period!

In Kôngo society, "Everyone is a free individual and a doer/specialist," Muna Kôngo mfumu na mfumu, ngânga na ngânga. A Mukôngo was accepted as such, as an Ngânga in his community if he only could be a doer of something for the well-being of the community; kala ye salu, to have "métier". (ACBK p.32)

[Tenkamenin]

I was on youtube searching for videos on Dr. Fu-Kiau and I came across this clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND-DgU7x4Zo

After viewing the clip I did a quick  search on Dharma and this is what I found,

"The word dharma comes from the ancient religions of India and is found in Hindu and Jain teachings as well as Buddhist. Its original meaning is something like "natural law." Its root word, dham, means "to uphold" or "to support." In this broad sense, common to many religious traditions, dharma is that which upholds the natural order of the universe."

 If only our people knew about the richness of our religions instead of promoting stuff like Kmtyw Buddhisim.

[Mani Kongo]

Tenkamenin;149785 wrote:
 If only our people knew about our rich religions instead of promoting stuff like Kmtyw Buddhisim.

Inga, i kedika! (Yes, it is true). No need to go outside for anything at all. That definition of dharma is quite interesting especially if you take in consideration that the most ancient inhabitants of these lands were Black. Some things just make you scratch your head once you have read Fu-Kiau's works, for example muslims circle the ka'ba 7 times counter-clockwise...

[Tenkamenin]

In Kmtyw Cosmology of the Bantu Kongo, Dr. Fu-Kiau lists 11 daily expressions of the Muntu, I need help in understanding 2 of them:

1) Kala/ba kimpa mu bimpa-be a system within systems

2)Kala/ba diela mu bimpa muntu-be wise and sensible to human systems

Thanks